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[mwplefty]

Effective June 2011, Carnival cruise ships will only permit smoking in their jazz clubs, dance clubs, designated smoking areas of casinos, designated smoking areas of casino bars, and the outdoor starboard (right) side of the ship. Effective December 2011, all guest staterooms must be 100% smoke-free. Here's the terrible part: e-cigarettes are banned outside of the designated smoking areas.

Carnival is a private company, so I wouldn't classify this as a law, only a rule/policy. They have the right to regulate these types of activities onboard their ships, but it doesn't mean that what they are doing is right.


What do you guys think about this? The last time that I went on a Carnival cruise was in Summer 2007. Smoking was permitted in the casino and the outdoor starboard side of the ship, but e-cigarettes, which were fairly new at the time, were not mentioned in the smoking policy.

 

[Jixchel]

I'm not a fan of Carnival, bad experience, but it is their company, and they have the right to designate this, in the cabin however I don't think they would ever know if you were vaping.

 

[tj99959]

Doesn't bother me a bit, I don't feel like I have some sort of special rights just because I vape. I can easily "fringe" the smoking aria so that I don't have to smell all the smoke. I see no need to sit in the middle just so that I can feel miseable or somehow abused. vaping is my habit, and I don't need to jam it down anyones throat.

 

[Iffy]

What are they gonna do? Put ya in a lifeboat and set ya adrift?

Hell, just vape in da sauna!

 

[mwplefty]

It's not just Carnival. Other cruise ships like Royal Caribbean are following suit.

 

[Flyer]

I seriously doubt that vaping in your cabin would be a problem. outside of the cabin, I would follow the rules. Don't need to create new vapor haters.

 

[VapingRulz]

It's an ignorant corporate policy. Again and again we see that people have a LOT of difficulty with the concept that Vaping and Smoking are two entirely different things. Did they also ban inhalers? Perfume? Deodorant?

It's time for vapers to stop accepting second-class treatment. I see far too many here who think it's entirely reasonable that vapers should be skulking in the shadows because it "looks like" they're smoking. We need to fight back. Please, everyone, grow some guts.

Carnival is off my list of vacation options - period. Money talks.

 

[Tigerfan]

I just went on a Carnival cruise and vaped in the room, on the balcony, in one of the piano bars, and in the buffet restaurant. There was also a gentleman I met who vaped everywhere and did not try to hide it as I did. No one said a word to either of us or any funny looks my way. I think it's only going to be enforced if someone complains about it.

 

[DC2]

What we have here is a good old-fashioned catch-22 situation.

Places are starting to ban electronic cigarettes because they want to avoid dealing with complaints.
And people are complaining because they are ignorant and need to be educated.

But they can't be educated unless we are vaping around them, educating them, and letting them see that they aren't bothersome.
Unfortunately, we can't vape around them if electronic cigarettes are being banned everywhere.

A further catch-22 is if we fight for our right to vape because there are no rules against it, they will just make rules against it.

And I'll be damned if I know what the best way to deal with all of this is.

 

[mwplefty]

It's an ignorant corporate policy. Again and again we see that people have a LOT of difficulty with the concept that Vaping and Smoking are two entirely different things. Did they also ban inhalers? Perfume? Deodorant?

It's time for vapers to stop accepting second-class treatment. I see far too many here who think it's entirely reasonable that vapers should be skulking in the shadows because it "looks like" they're smoking. We need to fight back. Please, everyone, grow some guts.

Carnival is off my list of vacation options - period. Money talks.

I agree. Don't vape in private, or stealth vape. It only makes you look suspicious, as if you were doing something wrong or illegal. Vape loud and proud, just don't cause a major distraction or interruption. Vape like you used to smoke before smoking was banned virtually everywhere indoors.

 

[DaveP]

We get banned because it's easier to ban everything than to explain to smokers why they can't smoke and people with fake cigarettes can. It's easier just to ban it all and not have to listen to the smokers. Bars have this problem all the time.

I agree that we should have a right to vape anywhere we don't cause allergies or huge clouds of vapor that people complain about in a closed area. Stealth vaping is kind of a retreat, but a belligerent show of vapor in the face of a rule on a private boat just hurts the image of vapers. It's not public property so there's nothing to be gained by ignoring the rules.

I'd stealth vape just like I do everywhere else and no one would care.

 

[byggpoppa]

My policy is thus... loud and proud. I have a kicked Legacy that usually sports a tank of some sort on top, i.e. not hiding anything. I really have never been approached out and about (restaurants, theaters...)

It's sort of like gun owners open carrying... if you act like there is no reason to worry, people usually do not. Now act all sketchy and see what happens.

Now in the event I am approached I just do what I always do... play stupid and apologize.

Will I be going out of my way to use Carnival my next cruise??... ummm no

Now because my buddy is over my shoulder right now as I type I'll give you his theory on why no one takes issue with me vaping all over God's free world... I'm 6'4" and 350++ with a shaved head and a goatee. He may have a point lol

 

[myxomatosis]

I just don't want the attention, positive or negative, so I try to keep to myself when I vape. I don't make a spectacle if I can avoid it, although not exhaling a cloud is impossible with my Vmax HAAAAAA

I think there's a scale:

Super Stealth- hiding that you've been vaping at all, in a place it's clearly barred.
Stealth - keeping it secret as much as possible.
Semi-Stealth - this is where I live. I don't care either way, but I'd prefer to be left alone.
Not Caring So Much - it's whatever. Even if it's barred, you're going for it.
Not Caring At All - come what may, this VAPE is going down!

Whatever your style, happy vaping.

Also, send me your Carnival Tickets, I'll Semi-Stealth in the cabin all day long. People just aren't educated, and companies just ban it to not have to deal with real smokers complaints about things being unbalanced. What you do in your cabin is your business.

 

[donnah]

I recently stayed in a motel with "no smoking" signs everywhere.. I even had to sign something that stated I agree not to smoke yada yada... I vaped the whole time while in my room I wasn't a public smoker and I'm not a public vaper.. so rules like this don't bother me.