I personally started with a small cig look alike (blu) and quickly outgrew it. Seemed like a waste of money, but it got me off the real thing. And then i gifted it to my mother and am quickly converting her. I then moved on to the ego c with 2 1000 mah batts. Worked wonders. I like the small tanks to try out different flavors, but have moved on to ce4+ clearomizer and 1.7ohm smoktech cartos. I like the clearomizer because it holds more juice, but I'd recommend waiting until you find a juice you like before spending the money on something that holds more. I too was overwhelmed, but reading all the great advice from everyone on here really help me in the right direction. The best I can say is start where you are comfortable, when you learn more and if you want to invest more, then do so.. Whatever keeps you moving forward..
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I would suggest Ego T or C or even a Lavatube or Provari if you feel like you won't mind that it is substantially bigger than a real cigi. Prefilled cartos get expensive really quickly. Be sure you get something with a 510 threading, your choices as far as add-on's are endless then. Clearomizers, Cartomizers, Cartridges, Tanks, you name it. Trust me, you will most likely get a big case of the "I wants" pretty soon. I did! Moved from a mini like the Blu to a Lavatube and I'm having fun with that one, zero cigs in over 2 months, no money saved though because of the "I wants"..... LOL!
Refer to my post above. The KGO battery will last 3 days per battery and you get two. If you can't charge a battery every couple days for 3-4 hours then get a 5v passthrough and be done with it. 5 VOLT USB PASS THROUGH (REQUIRES SUFFICIENT POWER SOURCE)
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huh? I am listening, that's why I'm posting and I have even read your blog. I can charge every few days, even once a day...I am completely new to this and trying to make the right decision as I do not want to waste money and want to be going to buy something else. So, is the Kgo Starter kit enough? What else do you suggest to last me about a month?
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I mean I don't know how much juice, etc to last me about a month?
I would say an EGO 650 with cartos is easy to start out with.Here are some reviews. E-Cigarette Reviews
My recommendation would be a couple Ego (or ego knock-off such as kgo, e-power, etc.) batteries, 1 in 1000mah, the other a 650mah, so you can take them to work and the 1000mah should last you a good 6 hours of solid vaping, the 650 should get you through the rest of the night. I would recommend you get an assortment of different cartomizers, as everyone's tastes are subjective. A lot of people love the ego stardusts, boge 2.0 ohm carts, smoktek dual-coils, and ce2's and other variants. Get a selection so you can figure out what you like and stick with that.
Most people vape anywhere from 2 mls a day to 5 mls+. More when you first start and more depending on the type of pv you have. If you vape 3 mls per day, a 30 ml bottle will last you about 10 days. Order enough to get you started, but not enough so you'd run out. It takes a little trial and error when you start. Try sample sizes in different nicotine strengths.
Hi - I know you said you're overwhelmed, but nothing is going to reduce the amount of information you're going to need to make a really informed decision. You could just buy what someone like me says to, but then you'd be buying about 20 different PV's. All I can do is try to explain the basics as clearly as possible, so you can feel comfortable ordering your first setup.
I know how you feel, because I was just there. I like to help people, like everyone here, so I've put together a lot of information in a couple of "beginner" threads that I'd really like you to please take a look at.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/291542-way-too-much-info.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ng-started-your-advice-would-appreciated.html
The first one is "Closed", or I would have amended it to say that I think a less daring route is to go:
1) Joyetech eGo-C 1000mah starter kit
2) Joyetech variable voltage "Twist" battery
3) High-end variable voltage device, if desired. These give you a better vape than anything else, under most circumstances.
See what you think; there's a lot of information in there, and many links to very helpful (IMO) threads.
I know how you feel, because I was just there. I like to help people, like everyone here, so I've put together a lot of information in a couple of "beginner" threads that I'd really like you to please take a look at.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/291542-way-too-much-info.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ng-started-your-advice-would-appreciated.html
The first one is "Closed", or I would have amended it to say that I think a less daring route is to go:
1) Joyetech eGo-C 1000mah starter kit
2) Joyetech variable voltage "Twist" battery
3) High-end variable voltage device, if desired. These give you a better vape than anything else, under most circumstances.
See what you think; there's a lot of information in there, and many links to very helpful (IMO) threads.
There is no such thing as marlboro tasting tobacco flavor. Often imitated, never duplicated. Get it in your head right away that there is no tobacco flavor that tastes good or anything like a cigarette and you will save yourself a lot of money right off the bat. Fruity flavors are good to start with. Darker flavors can be cartomizer killers due to their dark color.
They HAVE made some decent menthol flavors so that puts menthol smokers at an advantage over full flavor smokers.
You have to say to yourself, hey I was licking an ashtray this whole time and did that really taste good? The answer is clearly no. No smoker relies on flavor to make their decision to smoke and neither should you. On the other hand the same method that you found your all day smoke is going to be the same method you are going to find your all day vape. Trial and error. It will cost money unless you link up with vapers in your area and try their juices.
They HAVE made some decent menthol flavors so that puts menthol smokers at an advantage over full flavor smokers.
You have to say to yourself, hey I was licking an ashtray this whole time and did that really taste good? The answer is clearly no. No smoker relies on flavor to make their decision to smoke and neither should you. On the other hand the same method that you found your all day smoke is going to be the same method you are going to find your all day vape. Trial and error. It will cost money unless you link up with vapers in your area and try their juices.
Most of what you read will all be correct, and thereby hangs the thread ( pardon the pun). Most people seem to like Boge cartomisers, personally, don't think there that good, maybe I'm doing something wrong!!
Started vaping myself about a month ago with a 3.7v outfit (Indulgence) and Olympic low resistance atomisers for direct dripping, ( which I think are brilliant and still use) and with the above boge cartos which were not that good at 3.7v. Also an Ego Vision clearomiser, which again I love to bits.
Bought a Lavatube VV, and have to say the ability to dial in higher voltages (not on the LR stuff though) and match the voltage to the atty, carto clearomiser etc is a considerably better vaping experience in mho.
In a short period have tried many of the available bits and bobs including the Smoktek Mega DCC, which I thought was like sucking marbles through a straw.
I keep returning to the clearos they take 1.6ml are easy to fill and clean and the 2.1 - 2.4 ohm ones at 4.2v to 5v are great
Started vaping myself about a month ago with a 3.7v outfit (Indulgence) and Olympic low resistance atomisers for direct dripping, ( which I think are brilliant and still use) and with the above boge cartos which were not that good at 3.7v. Also an Ego Vision clearomiser, which again I love to bits.
Bought a Lavatube VV, and have to say the ability to dial in higher voltages (not on the LR stuff though) and match the voltage to the atty, carto clearomiser etc is a considerably better vaping experience in mho.
In a short period have tried many of the available bits and bobs including the Smoktek Mega DCC, which I thought was like sucking marbles through a straw.
I keep returning to the clearos they take 1.6ml are easy to fill and clean and the 2.1 - 2.4 ohm ones at 4.2v to 5v are great
PS Don't do what I did and have just one outfit cos your buggered when it breaks (mine did) buy two!!
I think that flavors and palates are far too subjective to support that statement. I could support something like "it will be very hard, if not impossible, to find a flavor that will taste so much like a burning Marlboro cigarette that you can hardly tell the difference", but that is not to say that there aren't a large number of tobacco-like flavors that taste very, very good to a lot of people. Backwoods Brew "Virginia", "Applewood" (which I'm vaping right now), "Casablanca", "Honey Nut Flue Tobacco", and "Backo" are all generally well spoken of; Alien Visions' "Boba's Blend" (which I haven't tried yet, but is arguably the most popular flavor in the vaposphere); I like Mom and Pops' "Tobacco Haze", and then there is everybody's version of RY4, 555, and on and on.
Do most seasoned vapers vape tobacco flavors the majority of the time? I would say definitely not. Do I think it would be good to start out with, say, two tobacco flavors, and three non-tobacco? For sure. No need for a beginner to think that they're missing out on something, thereby raising the (small IMO) risk of failure. Small, that is, if your hardware is good.
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"Bought a Lavatube VV, and have to say the ability to dial in higher voltages (not on the LR stuff though) and match the voltage to the atty, carto clearomiser etc is a considerably better vaping experience in mho".
That, I can fully support.
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I had a "marbolo" (lol) juice actually taste spot on (to me, anyway). Tobacco flavors generally fail horribly or are tolerable, don't know what it is. The Root Beer flavor by Top Vapor is pretty good, imo. madvapes has reasonably priced juices that I buy 50ml at a time. Others like bombay vaping, and nite lite vapors, alien visions, etc. If you search the forums for juices, you'll find just as many threads if not more, than threads about batteries, mods, and carts/atomizers.
Maybe you got lucky but I am just repeating the consensus from multi-year veteran vapers such as GrimmGreen. I ordered all the TPA flavors of tobacco and they are all disgusting. Even when I mixed them all together lol.
"Do most seasoned vapers vape tobacco flavors the majority of the time? I would say definitely not. Do I think it would be good to start out with, say, two tobacco flavors, and three non-tobacco? For sure. No need for a beginner to thik that they're missing out on something, thereby raising the (small IMO) risk of failure. Small, that is, if your hardware is good."
I disagree 1000%. You are most likely to relapse in the beginning when a good impression is what you need most. In your post you said it all. Boba's Blend is probably safe to try but do veteran vapers vape tobacco flavors as their all day vapes? Generally not. Not all people can afford to throw money away, especially if they don't know if this is going to work or not for them. It's basically a carton of cigarettes or what to them could be utter failure and no cigarettes. For some it's a big leap of faith based on hearsay and opinion. That's a scary proposition and not one to take lightly. Couple that with a world of information and a world of disinformation and that only compounds the problem.
I disagree 1000%. You are most likely to relapse in the beginning when a good impression is what you need most. In your post you said it all. Boba's Blend is probably safe to try but do veteran vapers vape tobacco flavors as their all day vapes? Generally not. Not all people can afford to throw money away, especially if they don't know if this is going to work or not for them. It's basically a carton of cigarettes or what to them could be utter failure and no cigarettes. For some it's a big leap of faith based on hearsay and opinion. That's a scary proposition and not one to take lightly. Couple that with a world of information and a world of disinformation and that only compounds the problem.
I started out with Volcano Ecigs and their re-branded EGO "Inferno" batteries. I used two for an entire year in combination with Low Resistance "LR" atomizers and the Vaporescence "Liquinator" which I used boge cartomizers in. I have a year under my belt and although since moving to larger mod's I would highly recommend EGO batteries especially the ones that have USB pass through, a convenience when your other battery is charging and you need to vape. Best of luck and stick with it!!
Just wanted to make sure you actually read my post. (?)
And disagreeing a mere 100% will suffice.
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Some more info on the Joyetech eGo-C:
PBusardo eGo-C review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02xoC0v6R-8&feature=related
vaporcrave ego-c review - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLLZ9WvoIJo
I particularly trust PBusardo's opinion, and note that he said that vapor and flavor were (only) 80-90% of a Boge low-resistance cartomizer, but didn't really stress that he was using standard resistance Joyetech atomizers (2.2 ohms). Low resistance atomizers (atomizer "heads" Joyetech calls them when used in this 3-piece atomizer assembly - cone, base, and head) are available for about $5 each in packs of five, and vapor/flavor might be even better when using them.
3.4 volts x 3.4 volts / resistance in ohms = only 5.25 watts that he was vaping at, and it was still quite good.
1.7 ohms would bring that to 3.4v x 3.4v / 1.7 = 6.8 watts to the single coil of the Joyetech atomizer; better. I'm vaping right now at 6.3 watts per coil on a 1.4 ohm dual coil carto and it's just fine.
I really do like the Joyetech eGo tank system. It worked well for me and kept me off stinkies no sweat, and the same with several of my friends. Cartomizers are a bit of a pain in the ...., requiring constant topping off and the polyfill inside is easily scorched, and the cartomizer ruined, if it is run too dry. The Joyetech tanks are relatively hassle-free compared to them.
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Forgive me if this has already been said as this is a really long thread so I didn't have time to read it all but I just wanted to tell you not to go too hard on yourself about how many analogs you can have each day or when you have to be down to x amounts of nicotine or when to be at 0. You may set yourself up to fail if you can't meet each goal. For now just try and get what works best for you figured out and the rest will all fall into place. Good luck and I vote for the E Power.
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