Ozone Produced by Our E-Cigs?

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DCrist721

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Is this something to be worried about? I can't believe that this has never been brought up before; in fact it kind of concerns me. I'm also surprised that people who are opposed to e-cigs haven't used this against us. Granted, at this level of electrical current there probably isn't much ozone produced, but considering that it's being directly inhaled to the lungs it would seem that it should at least be something that's getting looked into.
 

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Ozone is only produced when electric current is passed through air.

Not through a wire.

In other words, the electric arc needs to hit the air. There is no 'arc' in e-cigs.

PLEASE, somebody correct me if i'm wrong on this

Correct, ozone is produced when the oxygen molecule is burned due to a electrical arc. (requires very high or extreme temperature such as nature's own electrical arc, lightning ) Actually ozone production is not our environmental issue. Ozone depletion is the environmental issue, without it we are not protected from solar radiation. (the major cause of depletion is chlorine)
Ozone is also natures air freshener. That's why the air smells so clean after a thunderstorm.;)
 
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Is this something to be worried about? I can't believe that this has never been brought up before; in fact it kind of concerns me. I'm also surprised that people who are opposed to e-cigs haven't used this against us. Granted, at this level of electrical current there probably isn't much ozone produced, but considering that it's being directly inhaled to the lungs it would seem that it should at least be something that's getting looked into.

The e-cigs have zero impact on the ozone, so you shouldn't have any concerns at all about it. If anything, the vapor would be considered to be green and environmentally friendly.
 

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The e-cigs have zero impact on the ozone, so you shouldn't have any concerns at all about it. If anything, the vapor would be considered to be green and environmentally friendly.

No no no, this is not the issue at all. If anything e-cigs might be good for the ozone layer, what I'm asking about is if it's enough to be bad for us.

Ok, quick science lesson for some of you - Ozone (O3) is good for us when it is high in the atmosphere, because it blocks UV-A and UV-B light, however, it is bad to be breathe this stuff in, and it is created by electrical currents. Breathing in ozone has been connected to cancer, bronchitis, heart attacks, and other respiratory illnesses.

Vapinginjapan and gnsmith are the only people who know what I'm talking about apparently. I too thought that it took very high levels of electricity, like a lightening strike, to cause this molecular change, however, yesterday I was drilling some cabinet hardware on with a wireless drill, and I noticed this sweet smell, and I realized it was ozone. I went online and confirmed this. Photocopy machines also create a large amounts of ozone, and it has been suggested not to use a photocopy machine in an unventilated area.

There is non-insulated electrical currents passing through where the atoizer meets the battery, as well as the atomizer bridge. I've never read that the electricity had to arc through the air, just that the current had to be exposed to the air - like with photocopy-machines and electric drills.
 
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the easiest way to create ozone is high current electrical arcing, or passing high frequency electrical current through a coil, as well as a few electrolysis methods.

that being said, drills and other brush motors can produce ozone, i have never seen a brushless motor do so. photocopy machines and laser printers use hv on the image transfer tube/drum to allow the toner to bond to the area of image. a low voltage, low-medium current heater coil will not produce ozone in any detectable amount.

as for the drill, a brush motor arcs everytime the brushes make contact, if you are using a decent speed drill that is wall powered (3000rpm or so) you can easily create ozone from the arcing. if this was a cordless drill 6vdc-24vdc, you are more than likely smelling the oil burning off of the motor.
 

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tesla coil, van de graaf generator... most air ionizers.. a tv with a badly insulated flyback lead.. anything hv can produce ozone to some extent. i have an old air ionizer that was marketed for automobile use, it was a manufacturer item, located in the air duct for the vent system, "on board air purification".. all it does is generate an hv corona and produce ozone. probably why they ended up on the surplus market.
 

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No no no, this is not the issue at all. If anything e-cigs might be good for the ozone layer, what I'm asking about is if it's enough to be bad for us.


Vapinginjapan and gnsmith are the only people who know what I'm talking about apparently. I too thought that it took very high levels of electricity, like a lightening strike, to cause this molecular change, however, yesterday I was drilling some cabinet hardware on with a wireless drill, and I noticed this sweet smell, and I realized it was ozone. I went online and confirmed this. Photocopy machines also create a large amounts of ozone, and it has been suggested not to use a photocopy machine in an unventilated area.

There is non-insulated electrical currents passing through where the atoizer meets the battery, as well as the atomizer bridge. I've never read that the electricity had to arc through the air, just that the current had to be exposed to the air - like with photocopy-machines and electric drills.

DCrist, electric motors like in your drill creates ozone through the brushs making contact with the Armature. (arcing) as for photocopy-machines,(my understanding, it's due to high frequencies and magnetic fields produced for image transfer) I really don't know enough to comment any further and what I have commented about photocopying machines came from just talking with some other engineers,:confused: I need to research that further, just for my own knowledge.

I have heard from some colleagues that there's a chemical process or reaction that you can use to create ozone, alas, I would have to research before I could comment.(this is definitely not my field of expertise):(I was sleeping in the back of the class during chemistry.:D

There is a certain level that you can safely breathe before it becomes a health issue. most people are exposed to small amounts of ozone in their home.
Ozone generators are used in spas, hot tubs, and fish aquariums to sterilize by killing bacteria.(this is one of the reasons why high levels of ozone is a health risk) In the HVAC industry we use electronic air cleaners to clean domestic air by zapping tiny particles with electricity. This process produces ozone due to the electrical arc in the air cleaner.(8,500-10,000 V)
There is a small amounts of ozone produced around high-voltage electrical substation's due to the high voltage and high current, again not enough to be considered a health issue.
Our attys work at such a low voltage and current I don't think it's an issue.
5 V at 1000ma.
Now this could be a wrong due to the fact there has been no research on our e-cigarette's:(
So with that last sentence said any information in I have stated about health risks is strictly my opinion.:D
 
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