Parallel mech box..

[ReedJr]

Snagged this up from a friend who was brand new to vaping. He went into a shop and told them he wanted to blow huge clouds, so they sold him this and a troll RDA (that's my alien RDA in the pic). They gave him a steal on the box, but he spent 70 between the RDA and battery charger. He could have easily picked up a starter kit for 70, but no one explained anything to him. After the wick they built him pretty much burnt up, he didn't even know how to rewick. He took the coils completely off to try an get the cotton through lol. Very new to vaping. So I gave him my 30w istick with a few tanks a like 15 bottles of juice and he couldn't be more happy...but now I'm stuck with this and even though I know enough not to blow my self up, not sure how to get the most out of it. It hits decent with my alien RDA running just 2, 26g 6 wrap spaced coils. Coming out to .3 ohms, but honestly my subbox mini running the troll RDA, with one 5 wrap 26g spaced coil at 35w, is hitting a lot harder. So what should I throw on here to maximize the hit while being safe? Also, anyone see that gap between the RDA and the box? So annoying. I've tightened the pin in the RDA as tight as it goes but it won't screw all the way down on any box.

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[Thrasher]

Im trying,, but i just cannot read your mind lol, any chance we can get the name of the mod and the missing picture?


Lol

 

[ReedJr]

Im trying,, but i just cannot read your mind lol, any chance we can get the name if the mod and the missibg picture?

Haha, thanks man, half asleep. One sec

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[ReedJr]

Believe its called an abs parallel box mod

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[LobsterGoD]

it all comes down to your batteries, build, and ohms law. Parallel boxes are much safer than tube mechs though, in that they split the amp load between the batteries.
In a perfect world you could build low enough to draw 60a off a pair of 30a batteries due to the amp load splitting effect.
Just to be safe though take the total amp limit of the batteries you are using i.e. 30a X 2 = 60a and only use 75-80% of that.
You should be able to safely go down to a .08 if you are using 30a batteries. Also, only use a married pair of batteries in that box that you will dedicate to it.

 

[Thrasher]

Well, my best guess.

At .3 your only running approx 50 watts so thats only 25 watts per coil add in voltage drop, internal resistance etc and your probably lucky to get 20 per.

So to me thats too heavy a wire to run mechanically at 20 ish watts go up to 28-29g and hit that same resistance and it should fire right up.
Or remove one coil and see what happens.
Or go even lower on res.

 

[ReedJr]

Ah, got some reading to do then. So with 2 coils, its splitting the power and with the thicket wire, they're heating up slower, right? So basically .3 ohm with 26g wire will hit a little weaker than .3 with a thinner wire? I'm completely new to mechanical but I do have an ohm reader so I won't be building anything to low. I've been trying to keep it .2 or higher. I was gonna stay away from mech mods because I don't care that much about chasing clouds and all that but after the 1 year anniversary at my local shop, I have to get into cloud chasing. The winners of the cloud comp won a jellyfish and a sigeli 150..and their clouds were barely more than what I could get off my subbox mini with an .3 build on the rba.

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[Thrasher]

Ah, got some reading to do then. So with 2 coils, its splitting the power and with the thicket wire, they're heating up slower, right? So basically .3 ohm with 26g wire will hit a little weaker than .3 with a thinner wire? I'm completely new to mechanical but I do have an ohm reader so I won't be building anything to low. I've been trying to keep it .2 or higher. I was gonna stay away from mech mods because I don't care that much about chasing clouds and all that but after the 1 year anniversary at my local shop, I have to get into cloud chasing. The winners of the cloud comp won a jellyfish and a sigeli 150..and their clouds were barely more than what I could get off my subbox mini with an .3 build on the rba.

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Correct, thicker wire needs more power and your cutting the available power in half at same time.

Well instead of straight up thicker wire many of the top builders go for exotic coils- twisted, clapton etc and then drop down as low as they can.

While its cool to play and learn, you need to check with whatever place is running a contest, many have rules on what kind of mods you can use, coil ohms etc. With a dual battery mod you can pull crazy power with the right builds.

 

[LobsterGoD]

Ah, got some reading to do then. So with 2 coils, its splitting the power and with the thicket wire, they're heating up slower, right? So basically .3 ohm with 26g wire will hit a little weaker than .3 with a thinner wire? I'm completely new to mechanical but I do have an ohm reader so I won't be building anything to low. I've been trying to keep it .2 or higher. I was gonna stay away from mech mods because I don't care that much about chasing clouds and all that but after the 1 year anniversary at my local shop, I have to get into cloud chasing. The winners of the cloud comp won a jellyfish and a sigeli 150..and their clouds were barely more than what I could get off my subbox mini with an .3 build on the rba.

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Actually, you get more vapor from the higher surface area of the thicker wire. While yes the higher gauges(thinner wires) will heat up quicker, your vapor production will suffer a bit due to less surface area in contact with the wicks.Your amp draw will be the same on a .3 build no matter what gauge you use, thicker wire just takes a bit longer to ramp up. Here's a good tool to give you an idea of what your build will come out to Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[Tyberias]

I use a 5/4 wrap 20g dual coil setup on my parrelell box. It comes out to .12 ohms. On freshly charged Samsung 25R's, it pulls 35 amps. Well within safe limits.

 

[juggler86]

That GAP. To some it might not be a big deal, but smaller gaps have caused me to toss mods in the drawers never to be touched again.

 

[ReedJr]

That GAP. To some it might not be a big deal, but smaller gaps have caused me to toss mods in the drawers never to be touched again.

Its really annoying me but then again, the clear box is too. Probably gonna trade this guy. Wonder if I could get a sigeli out of this setup..

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[juggler86]

I hope you can, but i dont really seeing anybody trading anything but the sig30 for that. The sig30 is really nice though

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[ReedJr]

I hope you can, but i dont really seeing anybody trading anything but the sig30 for that. The sig30 is really nice though

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I got an offer for a smok m80 but I don't like the way it feels. My buddy at the shop is gonna try to get me an ipv4 for it. He said the build quality of it to him made it worth a lot more. He said whoever build it did an awesome job. I'm not too keen on mechanical so I don't even know what its worth but if I can get a decent box for it, I'd be happy

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[k2zs]

If there's no MOS FET circuitry in that mod, the most that switch can handle is 10 - 12 amps. Be careful!

 

[ReedJr]

If there's no MOS FET circuitry in that mod, the most that switch can handle is 10 - 12 amps. Be careful!

Can you post a pic of what that switch would look like?

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[k2zs]

Not really... From the pics though, it looks like a wired switch, not mechanical. When you push the button, does something move inside to make a mechanical connection to the 510?

 

[ReedJr]

Not really... From the pics though, it looks like a wired switch, not mechanical. When you push the button, does something move inside to make a mechanical connection to the 510?

Just left the house, I'll check when I get back. So if it is what your saying though, the box is regulated?

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[k2zs]

Not regulated... An FET is a switching device that removes the heavy load (current) from the switch.

There were a few reviews of that device. The guy that makes them had like 3 different versions found on eBay in the $40 price range. I think only one was protected, one may have been mechanical.

Search YouTube for ABS parallel box mod and watch GrimGreens review...