Paypal fees?

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wyojoe

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The Paypal fee is because the seller is using their service, it has nothing to do with the person who is sending the money. You are paying for the convience of not having to wait for the buyers money order to arrive. If the seller doen't want to pay for Paypal, they should find a better, cheaper way of getting money.What Paypal charges you to use their service is the sellers problem not the buyers. Nowhere an the internet do sellers ask the buyers to pay for the fee for using Paypal. Its like going to the store and them going "Oh by the way since your using a credit card were going to charge you 4% more" you wouldn't put up with that in stores so why should we here? Its just not right. If you don't like having to pay Paypal for their services don't use them but don't try to make me pay your fees so you can use paypal. Pay them yourself!
I agree with you. They signed up with PP for their services like making sure they have money in their acct. and putting money in the sellers private acct. quickly, telling customers when their order is shipped and etc. so it is a nice service for the SELLER and people will order from them because of the service, and buyer would not order if they didn't have PP. So it is a great benefit to the seller. So I would consider this the cost and benefit of doing business.
 
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garyinco

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They already do. Interchange fees, also called "swipe fees," typically eat up 1% to 3% of each debit or credit card transaction.

Sorry, my post should have said "tacking on fees" not "taking on fees". I foresee retail starting to add on surcharges. As opposed to simply raising prices. Too much govt meddling...
 

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Missing OP !

BTW Paypal does not allow you to use their service for Ecigs , we just got booted after 9 months ! LOL , so we are now going to another service .

BOYCOTT the OP !

This makes absolutely no sense to me....You got booted from Paypal(an ebay company) for selling E cigs? Its not against PACT to sell E cigs over the internet(like it is for CIGARETTE tobacco). And you can go on EBAY right NOW and buy and E-cig and use payapl to pay for it. SO I really don't get why they closed your account. Where they confused and thought you were selling cigarettes? Have you talked to them?

Now I can see not putting "e cig" on the deception when selling though paypal because they might get confused and think you are selling cigarettes and the transaction might get held up for a bit but........There is no reason they should kick you off the service!
 
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This makes absolutely no sense to me....You got booted from Paypal(an ebay company) for selling E cigs? Its not against PACT to sell E cigs over the internet(like it is for CIGARETTE tobacco). And you can go on EBAY right NOW and buy and E-cig and use payapl to pay for it. SO I really don't get why they closed your account. Where they confused and thought you were selling cigarettes? Have you talked to them?

Now I can see not putting "e cig" on the deception when selling though paypal because they might get confused and think you are selling cigarettes and the transaction might get held up for a bit but........There is no reason they should kick you off the service!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...going-after-e-cig-companies-we-got-today.html
 

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What you see on ebay are coupons for ecigs. There is only one actual ecig listed and it will be removed by ebay before the auction ends.

Ebay as a private company can choose to allow what they want on their site. Same with PayPal. There have been countless threads here about it.

edit: Someone beat me to it...

Thanks swedishfish
 
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vert1276

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What you see on ebay are coupons for ecigs. There is only one actual ecig listed and it will be removed by ebay before the auction ends.

Ebay as a private company can choose to allow what they want on their site. Same with PayPal. There have been countless threads here about it.

edit: Someone beat me to it...

Thanks swedishfish

Ya i guess its just a liability thing for them....If someone ships an e cig or e juice that hurts someone maybe they could sue paypal? I guess the solution is just get a merchant account and take Credit cards. Once you buy the machine the fees are less than the paypal fees. Although this doesn't help someone trying to sell some juice or e cig they dont like on here.
 

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The question is are you a real business or some fly by night scam. If your not professional enough to calculate the credit transfer charge into your total cost I'm not buying. Its bad enough that people have high shipping and HANDLING fees when all they do is internet trade. I think if you just sell on the internet calculate all your cost and make one final price that includes shipping. If you can't put my item in the box to send it out for free don't sell me anything.
 

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Stargel - that's another sticky wicket. Everyone on eBay cries for free shipping, but I hate it. Think about it - you buy 10 items from a seller, all have free shipping. Do you think they'll send 10 individual packages? Nope. As long as you paid with ONE PayPal payment for all 10 items, they can send everything in ONE box. So, that "free shipping" (which is, of course, added into the price of the item) means you paid full shipping on 10 items, instead of paying full shipping on the first item, and a nominal amount on the additional 9.

I've barely had coffee yet this AM, so forgive me if that sounds off. In my head, it makes perfect sense. lol

(I should note that I hate it from a buyer's standpoint AND a seller's standpoint. Buyer - because really, I pay more for the items in the end. Seller - because it makes folks less likely to add items on to their order if I offer good deals for combined shipping. If I have free shipping on everything, there's no incentive to add on since they won't save any money)
 

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Sellers are sometimes caught between a rock and a hard place. If they add the PP fees and anticipated shipping costs to the price of the item, it looks like they're charging a lot more for the same thing someone else is selling with those fees added at checkout.

Buyers are simple folk -- if they see $15 one place and $20 another, they'll go with the first, and when it totals $21 at the checkout, they'll assume the $20 one would also have had other fees added to raise the price even higher.

The only real solution is to make a level playing field -- the site which hosts the sellers should set a uniform policy regarding taxes, fees, and shipping costs. That is the only way the decent people (who add fees/shipping to their prices) stand a chance.
 

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What you see on ebay are coupons for ecigs. There is only one actual ecig listed and it will be removed by ebay before the auction ends.

Ebay as a private company can choose to allow what they want on their site. Same with PayPal. There have been countless threads here about it.

edit: Someone beat me to it...

Thanks swedishfish

eBay is actually a publicly held company .. however, in order to protect themselves from any liability, they do prohibit some items from being listed .. and rightfully so, as over the years there have been some fairly bizarre listings .. need a kidney, anyone .. ??
 

Stargel

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I can understand when selling multiple items about the shipping cost. You are right a lot o the time you cant know the shipping till you get to the post office. What gets me mad is getting charged charged $2 a item to put it in the box. I should have been more specific. And shouldn't the 3% for paypal fall there?
 
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You could setup your company in a foreign country and use paypal for ecigs (like liberty flights (uk) or healthcabin and eastmall (china))

Buzz, I wonder if it would have made a difference if you called all your devices personal vaporizers and sold no juice.

Seems like it is kind of hard to setup a CC processor for ecigs. I'm glad i don't have to worry about things like that.
 

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As a buyer on ECF classifieds, it is cheaper for me to pay the PayPal fees, than it is to drive 20 minutes to the Post Office and "buy" a PO MoneyOrder. Plus using Paypal is much quicker. As a seller on ECF classifieds, I don't care if the buyer pays the fees or not, again it is easier for me, and with the price of gas probably cheaper if I pay the fees as a seller. No one forces anybody to buy anything here. So I guess people who are unhappy about the fees should just buy from registered suppliers.
 

studio52

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I am surprised that paypal has an ecig phobia or whatever it is. They sure dont mind internet marketers selling junk for big bucks. Oh well I really dont care what paypal does anymore, and I dont care about a small fee either to protect my purchase, but if no mention of ecig stuff then why not get a merchant account that you can use and avaoid paypal all together?
 

Yankee802

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Sure, you can choose not to buy from a seller that requires the buyer to pay the fees, but 3 bucks and change....c'mon man, it's not worth getting that riled up about.

Exactly, so the sellers should just suck it up, or add it in. I had brought this very issue up months ago, I wont buy from anyone adding fees in. If they want them that badly, add them into the total. Just like any other retail outlet, they adjust the price of their goods by including whatever fees they want to re-coup.

Just like gas, how irritated would people be if the pumps showed the actual price of gas, say $1.99 p/g, and stated tax would be added at the end of the transaction? Even if it was stated the tax was say $1.89 p/g, not only would people have to do the math in their heads, but it's just plain irritating! (not to mention everyone would know how much tax they are paying, but that is another topic)

I can't stand the current way our society/economy prices crap at $X.99 + tax, (or shipping for that matter), why can sellers just incorporate everything into a bottom line price? You have something to sell that I might want, give me the full price, don't add crap to it.

Bottom line, stating that buyer pays fees (IMHO) is like an insult. You know how you can take a phrase and say it one way, it's taken well, say the exact same thing with different inflection, and it's an insult. Same thing applies here.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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