Paypal fees?

[Mr. P]

I am surprised that paypal has an ecig phobia or whatever it is. They sure dont mind internet marketers selling junk for big bucks. Oh well I really dont care what paypal does anymore, and I dont care about a small fee either to protect my purchase, but if no mention of ecig stuff then why not get a merchant account that you can use and avaoid paypal all together?

That is my point, why am I paying the fees? A few people have stated that it protects my purchase, how? If I started a dispute through PayPal because I did not receive my goods and PayPal started an inestigation into it they would see it was an e-cug product and cancel my account anyway. So where is my purchase protection?
Gifting it would be the same insurance (none) on my purchase yet there would be no fee.
If you sell $1000 worth of stuff and have to pay a $20 fee for it then suck it up and quit trying to nickel and dime everyone.

 

[leannebug]

Mr P: if you do a search on BradSmith, you'll see why it's good to pay the fee. Paypal DOES reimburse your money. The only way they can find out it was ecig stuff is if YOU tell them. Or the seller. It's usually the unknowing buyer that mentions ecigs and messes it all up. Pp cannot prove that what you purchases was ecig related. Call it batteries, electronics, flavorings. Whatever you like... But as long as you don't mention ecigs, you are fine.
It's simple, insures your package/money, and only costs a small percentage.


Sent from my pod

 

[unsure]

Mr P: if you do a search on BradSmith, you'll see why it's good to pay the fee. Paypal DOES reimburse your money. The only way they can find out it was ecig stuff is if YOU tell them. Or the seller. It's usually the unknowing buyer that mentions ecigs and messes it all up. Pp cannot prove that what you purchases was ecig related. Call it batteries, electronics, flavorings. Whatever you like... But as long as you don't mention ecigs, you are fine.
It's simple, insures your package/money, and only costs a small percentage.

Sent from my pod

Well said. Several of us went out of our way to see that those few that got shortchanged a mod due that fiasco got reinburshed.

 

[unsure]

If you don't like it then fine don't buy it/boycott it. You think you'll stop sellers in the classys from not asking buyers to cover the cost. As far as not mentioning e-cigs....there are good reason for that.

 

[BuzzKill]

The question is are you a real business or some fly by night scam. If your not professional enough to calculate the credit transfer charge into your total cost I'm not buying. Its bad enough that people have high shipping and HANDLING fees when all they do is internet trade. I think if you just sell on the internet calculate all your cost and make one final price that includes shipping. If you can't put my item in the box to send it out for free don't sell me anything.

Ok , so you will be at my work to pack the stuff up for free on Saturday right ??
I have to PAY my employees to pack each order , this takes time ( BTW we charge a flat $5.95 for USPS Priority shipping on all orders in the USA)
On check out the shipping is added and you have an option to use UPS ( much higher costs ) we generally do not sell 1 atomizer for $5 .

 

[Mr. P]

BuzzKill, you are getting off the topic here. Nobody is questioning postage here, it is all about the PayPal fees. Paypal is doing the SELLER a favor by accepting payment for them because they do not have a credit account. Most people do online purchases with a CC but some sellers do not have a credit account such as individuals so they need some way of getting payment, hence PayPal.

 

[Bluesun62]

BuzzKill, you are getting off the topic here. Nobody is questioning postage here, it is all about the PayPal fees. Paypal is doing the SELLER a favor by accepting payment for them because they do not have a credit account. Most people do online purchases with a CC but some sellers do not have a credit account such as individuals so they need some way of getting payment, hence PayPal.

Here is where you are mistaken. Credit cards and PayPal does not do the seller a favor. It does the buyer a favor. You don't have to leave your home to pay for the item and you have your item faster. I don't care if you want to send a money order. Actually it is better for me. I just put it in the bank.

With Credit cards or PayPal, the seller has to wait 3 days on average to have their money. Plus if you don't like it you can do a charge back and the seller generally looses that.

Also if you send a seller a money order and they don't ship you have no recourse for a refund. Your just out your money.

 

[Mr. P]

That is where you are mistaken, if a buyer had to go through all that to send out a payment then they probably wouldn't so the seller wouldn''t sell anything. It is a convenience for the seller that is why all the fees are charged to the SELLER.

 

[Bluesun62]

Well, That is how the buyer had to do it for most of civilization.

 

[Mr. P]

ANd they use to have to ride horses and your point is?

 

[Bluesun62]

Well, it appears that it does not matter what the point is.

All the best to you,
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[swedishfish]

Here is where you are mistaken. Credit cards and PayPal does not do the seller a favor. It does the buyer a favor. You don't have to leave your home to pay for the item and you have your item faster. I don't care if you want to send a money order. Actually it is better for me. I just put it in the bank.

With Credit cards or PayPal, the seller has to wait 3 days on average to have their money. Plus if you don't like it you can do a charge back and the seller generally looses that.

Also if you send a seller a money order and they don't ship you have no recourse for a refund. Your just out your money.

That's correct. I agree with that. Paypal benefits the buyer much more than the seller. Maybe I'll ammend that to it benefits both but tilts on the side of the buyer.

 

[BuzzKill]

BuzzKill, you are getting off the topic here. Nobody is questioning postage here, it is all about the PayPal fees. Paypal is doing the SELLER a favor by accepting payment for them because they do not have a credit account. Most people do online purchases with a CC but some sellers do not have a credit account such as individuals so they need some way of getting payment, hence PayPal.

When we were using Paypal we paid the fees , I could have just as easily increased my prices to cover it but I did not want to make CC users pay for PP users fees ,. It is a MUTE point now because PP canceled my ability to use it for E-cigs and no where on my site did I use E-CIGS I always called them Personal vaporizers . They did not shut down my account and I am glad of that because I use it for business overseas and they knew that so they were easier on me then most that I have heard about.

To each his own , in 95% of cases you are either paying the charge or being charged extra to cover the costs for the PP users and CC processing fees.

 

[Bluesun62]

I have purchased many items in the Classifieds here. Close to $500 worth and paid the fee's and used my CC as a funding option on PayPal for an extra layer of protection. I have only sold one item on the classifieds and just recently at that. I shipped the item on Thursday and I still don't have the money in my bank account. It takes 3 days to get a money order and three days to get PayPal to my account. So it really makes no difference to me from a sellers standpoint. They paid the paypal fee's and I paid the shipping. The paypal fee's were about 3 bucks, the shipping for the juice lot was 11 bucks via USPS medium flat rate box with insurance.

When I buy on the classifieds I will not send a money order. I have been burned on other sites (not ecig and not here) and will not do that again.

I do sell on eBay for a living and Hate PayPal and the things the get away with that any other financial institution or credit card company cannot. (There is a growing movement to get them controlled like the credit card companies.) I don't like being told what I can sell and how I can sell it. On the same note I do not like PayPal telling me what I can buy. They are not out to protect me or my health. They are only out for themselves and try to make people believe that they have their best interests at heart, and that is disingenuous at best.

As a buyer, I am responsible for my own protection. I need to be informed on what I buy and all the costs involved. I appreciate the fact that someone tells me upfront what the costs are and not after the deal has been done. To me that is an honest seller.

Just give me the facts and I will vote with my wallet.

 

[Mr. P]

Okay, I guess we can add it to the list of things in life that are guaranteed, TAXES, DEATH and PAYPAL FEES.

 

[Archer]

The fees will be there until some good competition comes along. For now, PP Rules the market.

 

[BuzzKill]

Okay, I guess we can add it to the list of things in life that are guaranteed, TAXES, DEATH and PAYPAL FEES.

Now that is TRUE ! there are other companies we are looking into now , some of them are Dwalla , Alertpay etc.

 

[Mr.BeSoBeautiful]

Alright, I have to vent here. What is up with all these sellers putting in their sales using Paypal "buyer pays fees".
Listen, this is a SELLERS FEE not a buyers fee and then you say not to mention e-cig. Are you kidding me.
If you don't want to pay the fee then quietly calculate the fee into your price of the sale and keep it at that. Shipping fees are one thing but don't be so cheap if you are trying to sell something and pass your fees onto your customers. I totally refuse to buy from someone who states "buyer pays fees" and I think EVERYONE SHOULD BOYCOTT ANYONE WHO DOES!!!!!

My brother sells records on ebay and when i told him that people ask the buyer to pay the pay pal fees he almost had a heart attack

 

[Mr.BeSoBeautiful]

I understand that but it is a sellers fee for using paypal to sell their goods. 90% of people have credit cards (which are insured) but the seller doesn't have a credit account, in which the seller would also pay a fee ie. visa, matercard, so they must use paypal, that is where thier fee comes in.

i agree retail stores dont make you pay the credit card fees they have to pay for taking your card and they're truly in the business of making money not selling a few things her and there

 

[Mr. P]

Okay, I started this controversial thread so I can get my very first 100 post thread, so keep the comments coming.