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NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History
NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | "Safer" Cigarettes: A History
PBS search for safe cigarette
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No. I wish. It's a typical PBS comprehensive look at a topic. I'll certainly keep the information -- I'm sure it's accurate.
Very interesting TB. Thanks for sharing. What happened to that Accord cigarette I wonder? And the article also makes me wonder what Big tobacco is working on now.
Stephanie
"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Sans-Serif]And questions have also been raised about the effects of heating glycerin. When burned, glycerin is known to be carcinogenic."
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Is this the same glycerin used in the nicotine liquid for e-cigarettes?
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Is this the same glycerin used in the nicotine liquid for e-cigarettes?
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I tried Eclipse years ago and it was awful. Never heard of Accord until today.
Stephanie
Yes, glycerin when burned or heated at very high temperatures can give off acrolein, which is regardes as carcinogenic. But, it is not burned in our ecigs. The report authored by Dr. Murray Laugesen with regard to Ruyan liquid specifically tests for acrolein, and finds it either missing or present in such small quantities as to be considered safe. This leads to the conclusion that glycerin is apparently not heated in ecigs to such a high temperature as to be dangerous.
You can read his report here: http://www.healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport30-Oct-08.pdf
Thanks Yvilla. You're a fast learner and quick to accurately answer newbie questions! Dead-on.
Interesting article TB .....I can vaguely remember years ago taking up smoking something that was marketed as a 'safer cigarette' and then they suddenly stopped selling it.....I can't even remember what they were called now (I think I must be getting senile dimensia lol) ....I don't think I even found out at the time 'why' they stopped selling them. Reading that article I guess they might have been the ones made from wood pulp.
Eclipse was my analog of choice. 2.5 to 3.5 packs avg. a day for over 6 years. I loved them.. Everyone else had mixed feelings.
According to the Ruyan report, is the electronic cigarette safe or not, if its not what are we doing and if it is why are we still trying to stay away from the words "healthier alternative"
-The Ruyan study does only cover the piezo atomizer system, NOT the cheap design heater models around. They're not safe at all (insufficent liquid oil cups, liquid can easily get in your mouth; autocleaning cycle is intented to burn off liquid crusts from the heater element at red glowing ~500C , inhaling while running is poisonous, but I've not seen the controller switching it off if the sensor detects airflow while running it, yet, and more issues still to develop out and sensorless manual switch models are to be considered very dangerous cause there can't be any automatic temperature control at all in such designs, no sensor-actor system.)
-Fullfill the WHO's reasoned request to get under regulatory frameworks, ask heater model manufacturers to carry out medical scientfic practice conformant studies, CE "self-certification" e.g. is worth nothing at all. Using such pure marketing fakes is not serious and will never be approved.
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The Ruyan report is about their formula, not anyone elses. A single report deems Ruyan eliquid 'safe' but 'healthier' is a medical claim and requires extensive peer reviewed research by independent committee to prove it. Even then it will only apply to the formula/ingredients tested.
Who knows? Maybe there is no such thing as a safe cigarette, wouldn't it be a perfect world if there was a safe cigarette you lit like a normal cigarette (without the ash of course), required no batteries, didn't stink and tasted like a normal cigarette, had the choice of smoke or no smoke and avoided smoking ban?
Well guess what? ITS ALMOST HERE!! Surely there has to be someone working on it in light of all the smoking bans going on! In the meantime we are stuck with the electronic cigarette, it comes close!
Well guess what? ITS ALMOST HERE!! Surely there has to be someone working on it in light of all the smoking bans going on! In the meantime we are stuck with the electronic cigarette, it comes close!
NOVA Online | Search for a Safe Cigarette | Anatomy of a Cigarette (Flash)
Explains the anatomy of a cigarette and how the concorde worked
Explains the anatomy of a cigarette and how the concorde worked
I must correct this. The oil cups of mouth pieces are safe if used once, but if You refill them they may leak cause of the accumulated condensate after some refilling turns, so make sure to blow it out (DSE901) or push the tank out and dry up the oil cup (DSE103) before refill and don't overfill the tank, less amount filling is better than too much.
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I used to smoke Eclipse too untill the stopped carrying them locally. I liked them OK.
My E cig reminds me of them sometimes (flavorwise).
Biggest thing that sucked about a Eclipse was you couldnt put it out and smoke the rest later.
I wasted alot of em because of that!
My E cig reminds me of them sometimes (flavorwise).
Biggest thing that sucked about a Eclipse was you couldnt put it out and smoke the rest later.
I wasted alot of em because of that!
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