If he makes an asston of money, and it helps his family, how is it not a family project? For all you know his kids picked the colors, his wife decided on the final design, etc.
All I see is chastising someone for their ability to make money. Pathetic.
Your right it is pathetic. Since mods are here now threatening to close the thread I seriously now believe that is the true intention of all this.
BTW dude we all picked the color, the options and the final design. And the $140 includes shipping. You can go in with 3 others and get 4 pva40's for $125 shipped. 10 for $120 shipped. Just for this first run though, full retail after this. Helluva thing huh? lol just the tl;dr from all this and the vids from the beginning.
Its NOT about profit its about honesty,being upfront,not praying the innocent who trust you and not being tricky saying you are helping the community,but really only helping yourself. Thats what we are seeing here.His channel started well and then after people start to trust he see's an opportunity to cash in.Thats NOT COOL.
What's not cool is name calling and whining because you choose not to be involved. If you're not involved then just don't be involved. No need for animosity, just step away. This statement clearly states Peg is dishonest and that I am a victim of a scam, neither is the case. Its rude and NOT COOL.
Hell I give up,how can you even think an empty box is worth $140 that alone will ever be a collectors item,woo Peg is the best salesman in the World or he found the most gullible people to sell it t
K after this one im going to bed,its giving me a headache,God now ive heard it all.How can anyone ever help guys like you.
Now I am gullible, thanks again, don't let the door hit you on the way out. What's the plan for tomorrow, going over to the Provari threads to spread the truth about ProVape's profit margin all while calling their product owners and admirers names? Have fun.
If it doesn't work, or blows up and takes off someone's hand what will it be worth then? What happens when the whole lot is DOA and there is no capital left to pay for shipping or repairs because his profit to start the business is supposed to be in the 800 additional unsold units? Then everyone has a unique limited addition paper weight or a really cool firecracker that eats fingers.
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As someone else pointed out, I don't spend $20 on anything that doesn't have any real world experience. This is where companies send out beta models to reputable testers, let them try it out in exchange for their review. Work out bugs and then sell to the masses. This guy skipped the whole r&d process and preys on those excited to get something unique with promise of next to nothing. As it has been stated before several of us don't care one way or another what anyone else does. Merely pointing out a potential problem and hopefully save someone from spending their hard earned money on what sounds too good to be true.
your comprehension seems to escape you, this IS the r&d process. The reviewers will get them later, review them then you pay full retail. Your welcome for the r&d.
Those of you who can afford to throw away $80-140 God bless. I personally would rather spend twice that on something that I know what I'm getting or know I will have some recourse if it doesn't work. If I was going to take a risk on something like this, the next thing I would do is weigh my options and become informed. So you start looking into what guy named Peg says and does and everything appears to be really shady. He claims that you are family but yet he's really willing to take your money. He gets defensive when he is questioned even though his own motto is "question everything" then there is the whole academy website. This isn't a reputable seller he's a dreamer. Way too much doesn't add up with any of what Peg is advertising. IMO he is preying on the vaping community and those who are less than informed and trying to get a bunch of strangers to build his business under false pretenses.
Go get a flask or a printed plastic box dna40 then for twice the price, they're out there so go fetch. There was a demand for an alternative with dualies and this was born. Simple supply and demand.
Truth be told had he come out and said "hey I'm trying to get something going here who's in with me" rather than be shady I probably would have jumped on board. Not I. I'll wait to hear what everyone else has to say come April. If it's not available then I guess it's my loss then.
I don't get this kind of thing. Endless reasoning of why you aren't on board. Who cares? Its like standing in a low priced grocery store with no goods in your basket telling everyone in the store checkout line that you are going to go to the higher priced store to shop. Just do it already.
Well said. And I agree if he came out honestly, I probably would have bought two already. Instead.. I ordered myself two rdna40's few hours ago for $150 a pop
. That $10 difference for an extra battery doesn't mean anything when I know that extra $10 will cover my {Moderated}.. Best of luck to all you peggies.
Personally its not just battery capacity that turns me off the Shark. The seems on top, screen on bottom, screws instead of magnets on the door and the usb on bottom so it can't sit in my cup holder in the car also put me off. Congrats on your purchase though those are nice mods.
He should have came out honestly, but even if he did, there is no way I'm going to spend $140 on a mod with zero track record and zero testing. Look at the issues the Vapor Flask had with their first run with DNA40 boards, and I'm talking about the problems with the mod, not the issues with the chip, the Hana mod to if I remember right, but both will stand behind their product. Especially, like you said, you can get a rNDA40 for $150 today, and you KNOW Vapor Shark is going to be there if you need them. How many mods from big name companies have released products only to find problems down the road, even after extensive testing.
Still at this Randy? We know your not down for the project so why keep repeating it?
Just for arguments sake...let's take a shot-in-the-dark guess the boxes alone will cost you $15/ea. That's just the cost of the box and no parts or switches.
And Peg is using campaign funds to pay for all 1000 of them.
800 X $15 = $12,000....which Peg KEEPS!
That would be 46% of the total collected in campaign funds that Peg puts in his pocket without your knowledge.
This is why it's very important to know WHO is paying for those 800 extra boxes?
Again with this 800 mt box nonsense? Who paid for the HYPOTHETICAL mt boxes? Peg did, with whatever left over from whatever after I contributed $140 for a pva40. Who cares?
{MODERATED}[Edit-Oh OK I understand, sorry<towelie>]
I still don't see why that's a big deal. Guess I'm ignorant or something.
If you go back to the first vid to here and now on this thread it will make sense. Just hate from folks who arent down for this reason or that reason, all summed up as follows:
"Look at me! I am not down for the project! Look at me!"
To the mods: how would closing the thread not be simply rewarding the name callers and haters?
