Pegasus Vapor Academy PVA-40

[sikosam04]

First of all thanks for the posts and interest this has been by far the busiest day since the first day or 2. I don't think we would have made goal without your help. Not that the campaign fulling is a sure thing but it's looking better for sure

A always felt that your main goal was to protect your own 50 unit hana clone run, I know your hopes of running a small mod business from home is not panning out as you had planed. You have a good amount of units still left for sale and that really what this witch hunt is all about. It's sure not about facts as your post one theory after another in hopes something sticks. Surprised you did not trout the fact that your a Moder as well, but maybe you did not want people to know you have some personal motives for knocking this mod down a few knocks.

Really your argument to "prove he is a scamer is other vaper have been scamed. umm ok. looks like maybe you have moved pass that argument, but not before you called him a scamer and called any one that had bought an PVA-40 names and yell at ever one for a half a dozen post on another forum.

I guess Innokin is making stuff in the US now because Evolv "IS" selling dna's to them and they "DO" manufacture vape gear. Not sure where you get your "facts" but they are wrong. No matter how much you post or yell or say diffident that fact don't change sorry

If it looks like a FDV 510 then is probably is one i have never seen a clone of the FDV 510 but you claim again with no proof that its not. So where is the link of the real FDV or you think FDV makes them in his back room ? No he buys them from the same vendor that Pegs is. So i guess in a way your right its not a FDV 510 its just the same part just don't have the markup of being in a FDV baggy. Why pay 2 or 3 bucks for a baggy . I could do on but its a waste of time am sure none of this is getting thru.

Have fun with you made up facts and theories its been fun watching

Good luck with our Hana clone mods you are making a nice mod.

could not have said it better myself oldtimerocker. the funding has already past the $20000 mark and 8 more days to go

 

[RandyF]

Now this is a fair point. I loan him my money for free, in exhange for a good cheap mod. If I havent I would problaby end up paying much more for it. Its a win win for both parts.

Fair enough, but I personally just dislike the fact that he promotes this to be a "family project", when in fact it is him raising money to mass produce a product using the guise of, "look what I can do for you for $140". Even knowing the truth, a lot of people would have still contributed, but his motivation is the excess inventory and the money it will bring in. The 200 or so units you and the others will receive as participants, will be free advertising for the other 800 he will be selling at full price, so he has every reason to get a quality device into your hands.

 

[The Ocelot]

i'v read all the post on this thread, do you people have a clue to what your saying??? or are you just saying these things just to see your own post??? for one thing if you had a business would you risk it all for as little as $28000???

and you shekinahsgroom where is all your personal info, who the hell are you??? if i was in Peg's position i would not put my personal info out there either, just because of people like you. why would he take a chance of having people like you harass him and his family. from what i'v see of most of your post you are one of those people that only post negative comments, you seem to never have any constructive info to offer. so why would i believe anything you post.

ocelot and ravaz you seem to just follow shekinahsgroom lead, how does that make you look, to me it makes you look like exactly what shekinahsgroom is accusing the people that are following Peg of doing.

we are all adults here (???) so grow up people and start acting like adults

I think I look like someone who stumbled onto a thread I didn't understand, so I went the the website for more information. When i didn't find any about who was operating it, I looked up the company name at the bottom of the page. I didn't accuse anyone of anything, I just wanted information beyond what's posted on a forum or on youtube. I'm not interested in telling people how to spend their money, I'm curious about what constitutes an "Academy" when there aren't any classes.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

I'm curious about what constitutes an "Academy" when there aren't any classes.

LOL...

Gotta wonder where that certification is coming from huh?

 

[spizzlo]

It's funny and I'm not sure if it's because of this thread, but the campaign was stagnating and it made a pretty big jump in the last 48 hours.

 

[jsx821]

It's funny and I'm not sure if it's because of this thread, but the campaign was stagnating and it made a pretty big jump in the last 48 hours.

Anonymous is on a shopping spree!

 

[bunnomatic]

lots of new members with very few posts...maybe they will stay and contribute to the forum once this DNA-40 is done one way or another

 

[maabaa]

Do you think his real name is Rip Tripper?

No. But he isn't hiding his real name if you look for it.

 

[sikosam04]

Fair enough, but I personally just dislike the fact that he promotes this to be a "family project", when in fact it is him raising money to mass produce a product using the guise of, "look what I can do for you for $140". Even knowing the truth, a lot of people would have still contributed, but his motivation is the excess inventory and the money it will bring in. The 200 or so units you and the others will receive as participants, will be free advertising for the other 800 he will be selling at full price, so he has every reason to get a quality device into your hands.

and your point is ??? so what if he makes money off the device, i still get one from the first run for $140 (which the gun metal color will not be reproduced again), and took part in the 5 you tube videos during the design process

 

[maabaa]

Fair enough, but I personally just dislike the fact that he promotes this to be a "family project", when in fact it is him raising money to mass produce a product using the guise of, "look what I can do for you for $140". Even knowing the truth, a lot of people would have still contributed, but his motivation is the excess inventory and the money it will bring in. The 200 or so units you and the others will receive as participants, will be free advertising for the other 800 he will be selling at full price, so he has every reason to get a quality device into your hands.

Does his motivation matter ? How ? Why ?

 

[spizzlo]

and your point is ??? so what if he makes money off the device, i still get one from the first run for $140 (which the gun metal color will not be reproduced again), and took part in the 5 you tube videos during the design process

I don't think people mind the profit part, they mind that he said he wasn't making one. Honestly though, some people seem to think he's going to make a fortune, but at $140 a piece I highly doubt that.

 

[spizzlo]

Anonymous is on a shopping spree!

There aren't THAT many anonymous buyers and it's a HUGE assumption to say that they are all one person.

 

[The Ocelot]

There aren't THAT many anonymous buyers and it's a HUGE assumption to say that they are all one person.

There aren't THAT many anonymous buyers, but it's a HUGE assumption to say that they are all one person.
There are MANY anonymous buyers and it's a HUGE assumption to say that they are all one person.

One of these works.


ETA: I'm sorry. I just read the post about 4 times and it made me crazy.

 

[stanthemanchan]

It's funny and I'm not sure if it's because of this thread, but the campaign was stagnating and it made a pretty big jump in the last 48 hours.

Big Lou talked about the project on his youtube today. I assume that had a lot more to do with it.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

I don't think people mind the profit part, they mind that he said he wasn't making one. Honestly though, some people seem to think he's going to make a fortune, but at $140 a piece I highly doubt that.

Hard to tell what he's making, but everyone knows for sure at least $20/ea ($120 - $140) in the campaign and more for those doing the split payment option, but he's likely making a lot more cuz he's already stated that he's selling them "pretty much at cost"....which Randy also guessed to be at $30...which would be a very good guess. ($110/ea being actual cost?)

Plus, what you members are all forgetting....if he has 1000 of these boxes made and 200 are being released to everyone in the campaign leaving him with 800, who paid for the 800 boxes remaining?

This is what RandyF also brought up and why it's critical to know just how many are being made with the campaign funds. (1000 divided by $26K = $26/box) But if 200 of them are finished mods with DNA's, then that price will drop even lower cuz you'd have account for the extra components.

If campaign funds paid for those 800, then technically speaking....everyone in the campaign would own those extra 800 boxes since your funds may have paid for them.

Peg explained that those "800" are not finished boxes. What does that mean exactly? Who knows...? No DNA's maybe?

So he'll have a massive inventory of 800 "no DNA" boxes that you paid for but he gets to keep for any future projects. And this where the $160,000 - $500,000 in speculation profits would occur....with Peg investing not one single penny of his own money up front. Cuz he'll use the profits that he gains from the campaign sales to pay for 800 DNA's to complete his remaining inventory...or at least that's what we're gathering from his latest video about the "800" extra boxes.

But like I've been saying since the beginning, I don't think that anybody would care as long as everyone knew that up front....and not near the end of the campaign and in a video trying to justify his plan.

So here's what you gotta ask yourself....are you okay with Peg gaining an interest-free loan from his "trusting followers" where he pays you nothing for your investment, he profits from the sale that you all purchased and helped to design, PLUS....he gets to keep an additional 800 custom boxes that you all also paid for which he'll make BANK on when they're completed?

If you're all okay with that arrangement, then great....but were you aware of it before you signed up?

Now, we can only speculate about what Peg's plans are for those 800 extra boxes, but he made it pretty clear that 1000 are being made with campaign funds, or at least that's how he made it sound in his response video.

Peg's already been invited to come in here and explain to all of you what's really going on....so where is he? Wouldn't you like to know what's really being done with your campaign funds?

Cuz he's the only one that gonna be able to tell ya....all that we can do is speculate based on his recent video responses.....since nothing "specific" about who's paying for what has been revealed yet.

 

[leong jenny]

I'd love to see this device out!

 

[towelie]

Link to your mod groom?

 

[bigpineapple]

Hard to tell what he's making, but everyone knows for sure at least $20/ea ($120 - $140) in the campaign and more for those doing the split payment option, but he's likely making a lot more cuz he's already stated that he's selling them "pretty much at cost"....which Randy also guessed to be at $30...which would be a very good guess. ($110/ea being actual cost?)

Plus, what you members are all forgetting....if he has 1000 of these boxes made and 200 are being released to everyone in the campaign leaving him with 800, who paid for the 800 boxes remaining?

This is what RandyF also brought up and why it's critical to know just how many are being made with the campaign funds. (1000 divided by $26K = $26/box) But if 200 of them are finished mods with DNA's, then that price will drop even lower cuz you'd have account for the extra components.

If campaign funds paid for those 800, then technically speaking....everyone in the campaign would own those extra 800 boxes since your funds may have paid for them.

Peg explained that those "800" are not finished boxes. What does that mean exactly? Who knows...? No DNA's maybe?

So he'll have a massive inventory of 800 "no DNA" boxes that you paid for but he gets to keep for any future projects. And this where the $160,000 - $500,000 in speculation profits would occur....with Peg investing not one single penny of his own money up front. Cuz he'll use the profits that he gains from the campaign sales to pay for 800 DNA's to complete his remaining inventory...or at least that's what we're gathering from his latest video about the "800" extra boxes.

But like I've been saying since the beginning, I don't think that anybody would care as long as everyone knew that up front....and not near the end of the campaign and in a video trying to justify his plan.

So here's what you gotta ask yourself....are you okay with Peg gaining an interest-free loan from his "trusting followers" where he pays you nothing for your investment, he profits from the sale that you all purchased and helped to design, PLUS....he gets to keep an additional 800 custom boxes that you all also paid for which he'll make BANK on when they're completed?

If you're all okay with that arrangement, then great....but were you aware of it before you signed up?

Now, we can only speculate about what Peg's plans are for those 800 extra boxes, but he made it pretty clear that 1000 are being made with campaign funds, or at least that's how he made it sound in his response video.

Peg's already been invited to come in here and explain to all of you what's really going on....so where is he? Wouldn't you like to know what's really being done with your campaign funds?

Cuz he's the only one that gonna be able to tell ya....all that we can do is speculate based on his recent video responses.....since nothing "specific" about who's paying for what has been revealed yet.

Well thanks for bringing all this to our attention,I know that whenever I had asked something,he either deleted my comment or called me a troll,just because I didnt agree with him-
It all started with that GOD 180 and my saying it wasnt cool to review something (that well in my opinion wasnt up to scratch) then put it up for sale at a profit on his site.
I knew exactly how much he paid because SMY offered me the same price $71-he then posts it as a sale item foe $125 ,well I dont have a problem with that BUT then goes on to say I CAN HELP U GET ONE,and that the Manager was his friend-(some friend,she didnt mention the new and better model coming out a few weeks later.Then he went on to rubbish me,when I said Fasttech sold them for $90 calling me a troll.He them went on to tell all of his moronic "FAMILY" that the FT God 180 was a clone-TOTAL LIES but I suppose if your FAMILY you believe your DAD LOL.
Its the same now with this DNA 40 HE JUST WANTS TO HELP THE "FAMILY"--wooo puuk.
If you want to start selling stuff thats OK but do it openly NOT in the guise of helping "FAMILY" because as you can see there are always people so stupid they just trust-(thats not saying these poor {Moderated} are not good people they probably are)
So lets work it out,salesmen go on about 2% if making cold calls So 10,000 followers THAT equals about 200 people (the plebs who buy anything over the phone) SO HOW MANY BOXES HAS HE SOLD ---LOL
Just saying thats all,expecting to be called a hater and a troll,hahahaha

 

[sikosam04]

I don't think people mind the profit part, they mind that he said he wasn't making one. Honestly though, some people seem to think he's going to make a fortune, but at $140 a piece I highly doubt that.

if you would watch the 5 part videos on you tube, you would know the answer to that

 

[bigpineapple]

I dont want to be rude,but please just think about it,why on earth would you buy something you have never seen or used.And then wait 4 months to get it ? It doesnt make any sense.Plus there are other options with the same DNA 40 chip you can buy from reputable sellers/manufactures that dont cost much more and you can have tomorrow. This whole thing is so weird,its like you have been hypnotized or something.Is it because you were tricked into thinking you were making the box mod,I just want to know why,thats all.