Pegasus Vapor Academy PVA-40

[Shekinahsgroom]

Most of us even know how to read a spec sheet, know how to solder and even know why other chips need stacked batts which loops back to spec sheets.

Well I'm happy for you then, cuz you'll know how to fix your mod then when it breaks.

 

[nyiddle]

Just want to say, and I've only skimmed through this thread, many of these crowdfunded projects are essentially "insured" by the websites they're being crowdsourced on. Meaning, the manufacturer has submitted a bunch of personal information so that he can't just ditch out and not deliver some form of product. Sure, the product could be crap, it's kind of a gamble, buying something before it really comes out, but no moreso than pre-ordering a video game console before its release.

Looks like a pretty slick mod, and it seems we're considering this guy "guilty" before he has the chance to prove himself innocent. If the planned release date goes by and there is no word, or Pegasus just up and leaves the Internet, then I'd begin to be concerned. Until that happens though, he's liable (one way or another) to provide a product.

 

[Shekinahsgroom]

Gonna leave this thread now...with a gift of comedy!





You need only watch the first 3 minutes.

ENJOY the DNA40!

 

[towelie]

Well I'm happy for you then, cuz you'll know how to fix your mod then when it breaks.

Thanks! If you are referencing the pva40 (which you are because you have no idea what "my" mods are) it has a warranty but yeah I could fix it myself IF it broke.
My mofset boxes are still going strong after a year, no worries.
I could fix broken co-op lavatubes too but we know thats not worth the trouble

Been reading your battery advice on here, solid; keep it up my new best friend!

 

[Robino1]

Dropping this in here as I've yet again had to clean up some posts.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html

17. Advertising/Selling in posts
a. You must not use this forum for advertising. Any post that seems to have been made for advertising will be deleted. Registered Suppliers may advertise subject to compliance with their specific rules. Members wanting to sell, trade and/or buy e-cigs and e-cig related items from other members may only post these items in the Classified section

No discussions of buying, trading or selling between members is allowed in the open forum.

Thank you.

 

[towelie]

Pretty sure consumers are purchasing the Vapor Shark for the small form factor and are fully aware of the single batt. capacity....There are nomore screws- its magnetized. Everything else you listed is subjective. And again- congrats on your purchase. If it pulls through- you might have something special.

Your kind words are well received.

 

[OldtimeRocker]

You could not even bother reading who the manufacture is, it was clearly stated from the start. You just speculating on the first run numbers. So your speculating on profit when you don't have even close too all the facts. First you say he cant build a good quality mod for 140 then you say he is making a ton of money @ 140, now your trying to say he is building 3 mods for 140. Keep throwing dirt on the wall let see what sticks One of these you hope is right LOL

you post as some expert on production runs in china. You have not idea how many mods are in the run. No clue but you have no problem tell us all he is making tons of money. Tell us how many production run of any thing you have done in your life again ?

Making up numbers for some guess on a run count, and guessing on profit, but your sure it is riping ever one off. Do you have even one fact about the run, just one ? that don't seem to hard just one FACT.

Just for arguments sake...let's take a shot-in-the-dark guess the boxes alone will cost you $15/ea. That's just the cost of the box and no parts or switches.

And Peg is using campaign funds to pay for all 1000 of them.

800 X $15 = $12,000....which Peg KEEPS!

That would be 46% of the total collected in campaign funds that Peg puts in his pocket (800 boxes) without your knowledge.

This is why it's very important to know WHO is paying for those 800 extra boxes?

 

[OldtimeRocker]

Sorry but you don't have even one FACT here this is all speculation. junk science. Pretty clear you have an axe to grind here but you wont come clean. Just the fact that you need to start a fresh account so you can attack this mod speaks volumes.

What you failing to see is not the fact he is making money,or that your getting (well we hope ur getting,we wont know for another 4 months) a cheap mod.
Its the fact that he is deceiving people saying its a family project - when actually its HIS project using your money,thats OK if your silly enough to fall for it but that Shinky dude is just trying to help people who dont like that,and im one of those people,I hate being deceived-understand?
Plus hell your one of the 2% who buy anything over the phone,people who dont research and just believe what the salesman says.
Why on earth wouldnt you wait and see the reviews first before handing over your money for something you havent even seen DUDE REALLY-JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
I dont even want to spend $10 on Fasttech until I see a few reviews.
PLUS PLUS PLUS by the time it arrives it probably will be outdated,Evolve has only been around a short time and already have DNA20,DNA30,DNA40 by April next year it could be DNA 80 with all the bugs fixed,what will that mod be worth then?
But there is no helping some people,thats why cold call salesmen make $200,000 a year selling rubbish,I bet they would kill for your phone number

 

[bigpineapple]

You make it like anyone can contact SMY and get a GOD180 delivered to their doorstep for $71.

The MOQ from SMY is 10 so that's $710 right there.

Of course that quote is what everyone gets from SMY but that's an EXW quote (ex factory) not even FOB (free on board) so what was your final price per unit after you paid to ship from SMY to China port, to wherever you are port, then to you? Plus insurance....so what was your real cost per mod cause it surely was not $71.

Really,then why did he delete my post when he asked me did I know how much he was paying,I copied & pasted the SMY letter in the comments and he deleted it
And the Fasttech comment & price - DELETED
Then went on to lie & say FT sold clones,and dont tell me about SMY ---"said this and that" OK---boho boho,he also said that "Manager" girl was a personal friend---more lies
Plus the great friend/Manager didnt tell him---Hey just wait a month and we have a much better model coming that DOESNT fire in mean.
PLUS why didnt his review say it was firing in "MEAN" if he is such an EGG-SPURT
I was going to leave this thred BECAUSE why waste my time talking to babies who will never understand BUT you forced me back

 

[bigpineapple]

You make it like anyone can contact SMY and get a GOD180 delivered to their doorstep for $71.

The MOQ from SMY is 10 so that's $710 right there.

Of course that quote is what everyone gets from SMY but that's an EXW quote (ex factory) not even FOB (free on board) so what was your final price per unit after you paid to ship from SMY to China port, to wherever you are port, then to you? Plus insurance....so what was your real cost per mod cause it surely was not $71.

What im saying is----You cant mix reviews & selling stuff,its way to tempting to say something is great (and its not "eg" God 180) and then sell it to the --(well im not allowed to be rude lol) "followers" becase they believe you.
Because I have seen the lies spew forth and the truth deleted I know now -- I cant trust him.
But you do what you like,I dont care,some people you just cant help,go and buy a dozen boxes,maybe you can put them on ebay and make a fortune.

 

[bigpineapple]

Sorry but you don't have even one FACT here this is all speculation. junk science. Pretty clear you have an axe to grind here but you wont come clean. Just the fact that you need to start a fresh account so you can attack this mod speaks volumes.

Yeah right,I joined before he even started his box scam,so who got the facts wrong
Some people just yarda yarda yarda,and like you said 'wrong facts"
Just because I have been using the forum to get info and havent said anything isnt because I joined to vent anger on anyone.
In fact I dont have time to make ridiculous posts one after the other like some people.
Its just that I seen this, and I mistakenly thought I could add something that I believed was correct about someone, who to my knowledge was deceiving people.
But I can now see that some people you can never help.
Keep posting im so happy you have so much time.

 

[bigpineapple]

Gonna leave this thread now...with a gift of comedy!





You need only watch the first 3 minutes.

ENJOY the DNA40![/QUOTE
Great "review" reminds me of the God 180 review I seen somewhere,mmm,can he help me get one,or do I need to be Family?

 

[fredrikstad]

It's funny and I'm not sure if it's because of this thread, but the campaign was stagnating and it made a pretty big jump in the last 48 hours.

I think Big Lou helped a lot too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWENn9DGUGg

 

[stanthemanchan]

Its just that I seen this, and I mistakenly thought I could add something that I believed was correct about someone, who to my knowledge was deceiving people.

So basically you're mad that he's running a crowdfunding campaign on a crowdfunding site exactly like every single other crowdfunding campaign ever. You sound like the kind of person who would go into a Burger King and start complaining that you can't order sushi.

 

[RandyF]

Gonna leave this thread now...with a gift of comedy!





You need only watch the first 3 minutes.

ENJOY the DNA40!

That cannot be real. I couldn't stop watching, I just knew the mod was going to blow up in his hands.

 

[RandyF]

So basically you're mad that he's running a crowdfunding campaign on a crowdfunding site exactly like every single other crowdfunding campaign ever. You sound like the kind of person who would go into a Burger King and start complaining that you can't order sushi.

We ("the haters and trolls") were/are only trying to point out that peg is doing this to jump start his own line of mod, USING the community to pay for the minimum mold requirement. Everyone is exactly right that he will not make much on the devices he will be obligated to fulfill. What he didn't tell everyone is there will be many remaining boxes that everyone else paid for, but he will be the sole beneficiary of the profits from those boxes that he intends to sell with a much larger profit margin. Again, YOU ALL paid for them and he keeps 100% of the profits from THOSE leftover boxes. That doesn't sit right in my book, so I did by best to let everyone know.

I watched all his videos regarding this mod. He did a very good job making everyone THINK they were contributing, but he knew exactly how he wanted it built. He led everyone around to each decision. If you don't believe me, go back a really watch what he does and really listen to what he is saying. Was there anything in that device anyone building one would not have wanted? Other than the curved edges and the USB placement (which was completely his idea) it looks just like every other box mod with dual batteries.

None of you even questioned how the inside would be done. This is being made in China, we all know how much China is known for their stellar quality control and quality materials. I hope it is built right, but you all should have questioned it. I will be interested to see someone post the pictures when you get one.

 

[bigpineapple]

So basically you're mad that he's running a crowdfunding campaign on a crowdfunding site exactly like every single other crowdfunding campaign ever. You sound like the kind of person who would go into a Burger King and start complaining that you can't order sushi.

oh dude,your right why even bother trying to help,did i ever say anything about crowdfunding?
see thats what im talking about!
Hell ive had enough,yes your right,what a great buy,i might get the" Peg comes to my shop" bundle to promote my business because he is a star its only $3000
IE:"$3,000USD
Pegasus 4 Hire Change
Pegasus promotes your business to the MAX! Peg flies to your local B&M to help you do raffles, give a class, free signings free builds, and other promotional work, as well as consult you on your business. For weekend Saturday & Sunday. *Domestic Shops only, no international flights* *Perk purchases are non-refundable*"
Its funny A NON A MOUSE has not bought one yet !!!
Enjoy your mod when it arrives in 4 months,im going to buy the one thats out now for a few more bucks from someone I know will look after me if it has a problem.
Yes I know im stupid for doing that,poor me being so silly
Plus I dont need some huge 40 watt mod that has 2 batteries,its way easier for me (the silly person) to carry a spare battery in my bag or car,but thats just me a silly guy with different ideas.
If it was a 100watts like my Sigelei then I might need 2 batteries if I was firing it over 70 watts,but I agree with you now,its an awesome mod,im just not buying one OK
Enjoy dude,I love your mod.

 

[stanthemanchan]

We ("the haters and trolls") were/are only trying to point out that peg is doing this to jump start his own line of mod, USING the community to pay for the minimum mold requirement. Everyone is exactly right that he will not make much on the devices he will be obligated to fulfill. What he didn't tell everyone is there will be many remaining boxes that everyone else paid for, but he will be the sole beneficiary of the profits from those boxes that he intends to sell with a much larger profit margin. Again, YOU ALL paid for them and he keeps 100% of the profits from THOSE leftover boxes. That doesn't sit right in my book, so I did by best to let everyone know.

Again, you keep trying to make this sound like it's a lot more nefarious than it actually is. The bottom line is that he's a business man who needs to make a profit. If there is no benefit to him, why would he go through all this trouble to set this thing up in the first place? What business it is of yours what he does with the profit he makes from the sale? Do you go to every B&M and ask to see what markup they're charging on their products and what they intend to do with the money that they are making? So what if he makes extra money from the sale and uses it to buy more mods that he sells at a higher price? What about all of the people who will buy mods from this campaign and then go ahead and flip it on ebay for more money? Or what about the stores that will buy some and then resell them at $200?

I watched all his videos regarding this mod. He did a very good job making everyone THINK they were contributing, but he knew exactly how he wanted it built. He led everyone around to each decision. If you don't believe me, go back a really watch what he does and really listen to what he is saying. Was there anything in that device anyone building one would not have wanted? Other than the curved edges and the USB placement (which was completely his idea) it looks just like every other box mod with dual batteries.

It's a box mod with dual batteries. There's only so many ways you can make these things. You got buttons, a screen, usb port, battery door and a 510 connector. It's not rocket science here. If you go too far outside of the norm it's only going to overly complicate the design, drive up the costs and introduce new points of failure. So of course he's going to stick to the standard form factor. It's popular because it's proven and we know that it works well. What, do you think the 510 connector should go on the *bottom*?

None of you even questioned how the inside would be done. This is being made in China, we all know how much China is known for their stellar quality control and quality materials. I hope it is built right, but you all should have questioned it. I will be interested to see someone post the pictures when you get one.

You make it seem like everything that comes out of China is a pipe bomb waiting to explode and we know that's not the case. The Sigelei 100W has been a solid product thus far (aside from the copper pin in the 510 connector in the first release).

 

[rhelton]

Why do people act like ....., pegasus has not done anything to you so whats your beef? Who are you, and why?

 

[RandyF]

Again, you keep trying to make this sound like it's a lot more nefarious than it actually is. The bottom line is that he's a business man who needs to make a profit. If there is no benefit to him, why would he go through all this trouble to set this thing up in the first place? What business it is of yours what he does with the profit he makes from the sale? Do you go to every B&M and ask to see what markup they're charging on their products and what they intend to do with the money that they are making? So what if he makes extra money from the sale and uses it to buy more mods that he sells at a higher price? What about all of the people who will buy mods from this campaign and then go ahead and flip it on ebay for more money? Or what about the stores that will buy some and then resell them at $200?


What is the difference, you and the B&M actually paid for the product you are reselling.


It's a box mod with dual batteries. There's only so many ways you can make these things. You got buttons, a screen, usb port, battery door and a 510 connector. It's not rocket science here. If you go too far outside of the norm it's only going to overly complicate the design, drive up the costs and introduce new points of failure. So of course he's going to stick to the standard form factor. It's popular because it's proven and we know that it works well. What, do you think the 510 connector should go on the *bottom*?

I have seen more than one person say how this was designed by the community. It is basically a Sigelei 100 watt on the outside with a DNA 40, what's it going to look like on the inside....oh yeah, nobody knows.

You make it seem like everything that comes out of China is a pipe bomb waiting to explode and we know that's not the case. The Sigelei 100W has been a solid product thus far (aside from the copper pin in the 510 connector in the first release).

This mod isn't being made by Sigelei. You know who is making the boxes, are they doing the wiring also? And you just made my point with the first run problems.

Prove me wrong when you get it.