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my4jewels

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It varies on my mood. I flavor at 20%, and I probably use about 6-8 drops per 10ml. If I use cotton candy flavoring, which is ethyl maltol, I do approx. 16% banana cream and 4% cotton candy. If it's not swwet enough for that particular day, I will adjust accordingly. Keep in mind, am the type of person who kind of "flies by the seat of my pants".
 

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I have not found that the sucralose or ethyl maltol get thet bitter taste, It's the liquid stevia that I've read about that'll do that, haven't tried it yet. Of course, I haven't tried them at ridiculous proportions. LOL

I've got a big bottle of stevia here and don't care for it much. Using EM these days.
 

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I read the same things about Stevia, and even tried some in a health food store. It was not labelled as not being bitter and it had a very nasty bitter aftertaste. Their other items did not have bottles to sample-DOH! I did get 2 packets to sample and they were good, but had extra stuff to granulize or at least carry it in, and I was not going to try to figure out how to purify it into liquid.

I just bought some "Better Stevia" made by NOW Foods. No Alcohol, No bitter aftertaste. 8 fl. oz. for $14.00 (plus shipping-bought other items too) online. (I wonder if I'll get a decade of use out of it!) I was afraid that it would taste like cedar like others have written about, but that is not the case.

There is a little something that is not the same as the Splenda, but for the price difference I don't care.

In my little 7ml or 10ml bottle 4 drops is too much and all of the PA flavors taste almost the same!
But at 3 drops not a problem
3 drops is just enough for my morning mug of tea!:2cool:


PS. The cap is the only thing bad about it, The hole in it is at least 3X's the norm, but the cap on a CVS Pharmacy Pure Glycerin fits perfectly. I just transferred some into a 10ml bottle with dropper and all is good!
 
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I just got some "Better Stevia" from NOW foods, too. Got it from iherb.com. I tried it in my coffee, and I had to put 3 times the amount of drops as my liquid sucralose sweetener, and it's still not quite as sweet. I'm trying to get away from the sucralose to somehting more natural, but, I must say, I like the sucralose better.

I've been leaning more toward ethyl maltol or cotton candy. It's also noticable better for my cartos.

I read the same things about Stevia, and even tried some in a health food store. It was not labelled as not being bitter and it had a very nasty bitter aftertaste. Their other items did not have bottles to sample-DOH! I did get 2 packets to sample and they were good, but had extra stuff to granulize or at least carry it in, and I was not going to try to figure out how to purify it into liquid.

I just bought some "Better Stevia" made by NOW Foods. No Alcohol, No bitter aftertaste. 8 fl. oz. for $14.00 (plus shipping-bought other items too) online. (I wonder if I'll get a decade of use out of it!) I was afraid that it would taste like cedar like others have written about, but that is not the case.

There is a little something that is not the same as the Splenda, but for the price difference I don't care.

In my little 7ml or 10ml bottle 4 drops is too much and all of the PA flavors taste almost the same!
But at 3 drops not a problem
3 drops is just enough for my morning mug of tea!:2cool:


PS. The cap is the only thing bad about it, The hole in it is at least 3X's the norm, but the cap on a CVS Pharmacy Pure Glycerin fits perfectly. I just transferred some into a 10ml bottle with dropper and all is good!
 

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Led. I tried adding 4 drops of cotton candy per ml to my juice still not sweet enough

The Better Stevia is pure sweetener in a carrier of VG and De-Ionized water, so you use less.

When I was mixing with the Sweetener Flavor I was using about 20-25 drops of whatever flavor and then adding 10 or so drops of the Sweetener Flavor. This was for a 7 to 10ml bottle and I am talking about the dropper being the tiny one that comes with the sample bottles.

I would add 2 drops and see where it gets you. If nothing, then try 2 more. When it is close, add 1 drop at a time. Just remember that if you keep a tally of drops that when you find the right number it may actually end up that you need to add a little more next time you start a fresh bottle since every time you add drops and then try it the juice is getting lower in the bottle and the ratio will have to change.

If you put too much, just add some of your base juice (and whatever flavoring you started with) to water it down a touch...

Cotton Candy to me is not real sweet and when I go overboard I really do not like the end result it's just too... too... too... I don't know, too... something that I don't like! (the word mechanical is stuck in my brain, so maybe too artificial tasting like many of the DeKang is to me: this chemical leaves a nutty flavor in your mouth... this chemical tastes like vanilla ice cream...hey let's mix some tobacco flavor in it and call it RY4...... So, The word I was looking for was CHEMICALLY!

BTW I really did love RY4 as the second flavor I got when I first started vaping... it was a hell of a lot better than the Marb juice in various strengths that came with my first 510... until I tasted something better. Then I knew just what was going on with the other. It now makes me sick when I think of what it tasted like...YMMV!
 
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When everyone speaks of drops per mil of EM or Cotton Candy from PA, are yall referring to the big drops that you get from the dropper of a PA 4ml bottle, the medium drops that you get from a PA syringe, or the itty bitty drops you get from those small pipettes that come free with your order. (I've been using syringe size drops but always feel that I could benefit from more.)
 
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