PG causes DWI's???

[Scoper50]

A guy at work recently got into vaping, and yesterday he starts saying that if your vaping in your car, and get pulled over and administered a breathalyzer, the PG in the juice will cause you to fail the alcohol test. He says that this can be avoided by taking a drink of water to get the PG out of your mouth before blowing into the breathalyzer.

I think it's bogus, but I know a lot of people own personal breathalyzers. I used to have one, but it broke. So can anybody with a breathalyzer test this theory and report back? I'm just curious.

 

[gthompson]

I have a bridge for sale.

 

[Scoop224]

Ummmm In order to even get to the breathalizer you'd have to fail the field sobriety test.

 

[2nd chance]

Hog wash........

 

[Scoper50]

Ummmm In order to even get to the breathalizer you'd have to fail the field sobriety test.

I know, but that's not the point. You'd also have to smell of alcohol, or show signs of impairment to be administered any test at all. Cops don't just go around administering field tests and breathalyzers on completely sober people that show no signs of alcohol or drug use.

I'm looking for somebody that owns a breathalyzer that can take a vape using liquid containing PG, and then test themselves. Providing that they haven't been drinking alcohol of course.

 

[Kopfstimmen]

Actually, some things can cause false positives.
Breathalyzer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I was told by my GF (a doctor of biology) that the menthol I had in my smokes was also on the list that *could* cause a false positive.

 

[DaveP]

Check the ingredients on bottles of sweet drinks for propylene glycol. It'd hard to go through a day without ingesting some. Ice cream and soft drinks use it as a stabilizer to keep the flavors in suspension. It's a thickening agent in lots of drinks and a flavor enhancer in many products. It's in your toothpaste, too.

Foods & Drinks With Propylene Glycol | eHow.com

 

[el lobo furtivo]

I know, but that's not the point. You'd also have to smell of alcohol, or show signs of impairment to be administered any test at all. Cops don't just go around administering field tests and breathalyzers on completely sober people that show no signs of alcohol or drug use.

Hahaha....do they not have DUI checkpoints in Minnesota?

 

[mostlyclassics]

It's at least plausible that breathalizers could register alcohol on the breath of a sober vaper, since propylene glycol is an alcohol. There are, of course, a bunch of different kinds of alcohol, and PG is what's called a double alcohol or diol. And I have no idea if breathalizers pick up only ethanol (C2H5OH) or can pick up other alcohols as well.

So, I figured it was time to check out breathalizers on Amazon -- nothing like running an experiment to get to the truth of the matter. The reviews for almost all of them aren't confidence-builders with regard to their accuracy, and the professional models the cops use cost upwards of $500. I'm not about to shell out $500+ to run the experiment.

Do we maybe have hanging around on ECF a law-enforcement officer with access to the professional equipment who could run some experiments for us?

 

[Scoop224]

Again, I really don't see the point here. Unless you're operating a motor vehicle under the influence of a controlled substance, you have nothing to worry about. A blood test would clear the matter up instantly. Unless of course you want to try that test next. This just seems like a wild goose chase based on some ignorant statement made by some random person. Perhaps this random person is perfecting the art of "trolling" people without using the internet?

 

[mostlyclassics]

Scoop224, some jurisdictions can and do set up check points to run sobriety tests, particularly during Amateur Nights (St. Patrick's Day, New Year's Eve, Halloween, etc.) On New Year's Eve, there was one on Ridge Ave. (a main north-south drag) here in Evanston, IL. They held up traffic to test everyone behind the wheel of a car.

Also, this topic has come up before on ECF, maybe once per year, without a definitive answer. It would be nice to know.

 

[dirtyrigger]

About seven years ago i had to have an ignition interlock device on my car because of some bad decisions, i had to prove to it that i was sober before my car would start and it would test me randomly while i was driving. I had to pull over on the side if the road one time because i had some sunflower seeds in my cheek when it tested me. Just about anything can cause a false positive on the cheap handheld units, that's why you don't get a dui because of what the officer tests on the roadside, that test just gives them probable cause to bring you in and do a blood test or a breathalyzer on a much larger machine that gets calibrated frequently.

 

[jfountain2]

I have a bridge for sale.

What color?

 

[adeline]

I had an ignition interlock system in my car for a year. Which means to start my car, and 10 mins later, and every 30 or so minutes after that I had to take a breathalyzer to drive/keep driving my car.

I was a happy vaper the entire time it was installed on my car and never... Let me say this clearly...

I NEVER registered any amount of alcohol over the course of the entire year. Not once.

I'd vape in the car, right up until it was time to do the test, breathe in and out once or twice, take the test, keep going.

OP, your friend is trolling. And they don't know what they're talking about.

 

[Scoop224]

Ok, so you might get checked at a checkpoint. I really don't believe that this would be enough to be convicted in court, if you had not been drinking at all. You'd pass a FS test, and a blood test, bit they'd convict you on a breathalyzer ALONE??? Not likely.

Unless you HAD been drinking and then you'd get what you deserved. And no, that's not me trolling... That's just me and my contempt for alcohol and vehicles mixed together.

 

[adeline]

bit they'd convict you on a breathalyzer ALONE??? Not likely.

That's really a state-by-state determination. But I know in my state, yeah a breathalyzer is all they need to convict you.

FS test just gives them probably cause to do it. They can ask you to take the breathalyzer anyway. If you refuse, you get the exact same punishment as if you were double the legal limit.

Blood tests are not routine. You can request one though.

But PG does NOT CAUSE YOU TO FAIL A BREATHALYZER.

I don't really know how to make that more clear. I vaped in the car WITH my breathalyzer. For a year. Never once got a false positive.

 

[Dansauls]

I might be interested in that bridge if it's still available

 

[2nd chance]

I might be interested in that bridge if it's still available

Then I'll take the swamp land, if offered

 

[IntelligentDesigner]

Cops don't just go around administering field tests and breathalyzers on completely sober people that show no signs of alcohol or drug use.

Um. I beg to differ.

 

[p-doze]

bigger concern is that a cop thinks my vaping setup is (something else).