Okay, now after making one post elsewhere (and again sorry to the guy who's thread I sorta had to .... in in order to do that), it looks like now I can start my own thread.
In a couple of weeks, I have to take my first plane ride ever for the first time in my life to some place much farther from home than I've ever been, to spend 4 days total (from plane to place and back) where I really can't smoke at all during any of it (knowing this at least a month ago is what really inspired my current quest that has included both snus cigarettes, though roked the tryingto quit thing countles times -- having enough sense to know that navigating airports planes new places and stressful stuff for days where I can't smoke and there will be no place to go smoke is NOT the time to try to quit) I started in this quest.
Since then I have spent a boatload on the trappings all in the name of "it'll pay for itself in the long run" and tryign real hard to get used to not having 'analogs' and at the same time as I start preparing for "E-mageddan" and snus being snuffed out (all this FDA etc talk, the fact that stuffs already banned across Europe etc) I've been doing double time loading up on stuff
I now have 4 total 'disposable' 401's ($17.99 ones marketed that way but they seem fine to me I got chargers etc and I'm saving and using them), 2 510's (enough parts for two of them, sold together as a kit), one 901 and God only knows what else still coming in the mail (I REALLY went nuts... I also have enough snus in my freezer to probably service a small platoon of men for a month)
To this end
I've also ordered an iliota or whatever (I need to just type here not interruping myself to go digging up the name but most readers will know the one I mean)) the sort of carborator-driven vaporizer, aka the "I-Inhale" and a "Vapir Oxygen" because you see, in all of this I also still have about 5 bags of Gambler LIght American Blend Tobacco (I made my analogs with empty tubes and a 'maker' that injects the tobacco into the empty tubes so you got an analog at a fraction of the price for 15 seconds of your time)
I just can't let all that fine tobacco go to waste even if I'm not smoking it but I can surely find someting to do with it.. working out a way to include it with the cheaper core parts of e-liquid plus figuring out whatever else I can do with it with vaporizers etc... so now after seeing some very interesting posts by people like TobaccoBob (I think that's his name) and Nuck and Dvap (sure wish I had enough education to understand that one better), I've got to try this DIY stuff (and really start to make good on this investment plus that preparing for E-mageddan as I'll call it)
I mean if you can soak a snus in glycerin and vaporize it (boy did that ever peak my interest!) why not gambler tobacco?
if you can make some sort of extract out of distilled water and tobacco... surely there's a place for this, a way to get nicotine just up to 'ashtray mouth' without going too far ... and maybe a way that a person who's just got regular US measurements (teaspoons, cups etc) can do.. and I've got a plan.. I have to test this out but I have an idea for a sort of "E liquid for dummies" that might involve something really simple like:
1 part tobacco soaked VG,
1, part tobacco soaked PG,
1 part tobacco soaked water (or 1 part tobacco soaked everclear)
or if all of that is too strong, one part NON tobacco soaked PG, etc, etc
(I just tonight set three small covered contaiers in the fridge of VG, everclear and distilled water, each with their respective fluid at 2 teaspoons soaking an equal 2 teaspoons of gambler tobacco -- its handy that one teaspoon of tobacco is extremely close to the amount it takes to make a cigerette and I figure if I keep the ratio of fluid to tobacco equal I can start to better keep track of what I'm doing to start with)
No matter what I do I can see by vaporizing it directly (when I get my two fancy non e-cig vaporizers I mentioned I ordered) or using it as e-liquid tobacco even is going to go a lot farther for me than if I smoked it
and inspite of all this crazy spending I'm really not rich, this really is an investment thing I believe is going to pay off in the long run
but this is going to require as much cutting out hvving to repeatedly buy new things as I can
I have an idea that with maintaince taking care of this stuff (atomizers etc) and using the clunky vaporizers at home to eitehr directly vape litlte bits of tobacco or the eliquid (and the USB thing when at home to power my e cigs to save on batteries), using snus when the whole "I'm just not getting enough nicotine and I want to inhale the insides out of this e cig' thing really starts to set in (I dont' know what happened with this JC original but it has no flavor much that I can tell, the factory flavor was better at least I could tell it HAD a flavor) and whatever else I can do, using tobacco and making my own e liquids,
I am not going to stink like smoke anymore, eventually my tobacco usage will be even cheaper than its been, I'm going to be healthier, but in some sort of reasonable manner that doesn't require me to be a chemist or keep buying tons of odd new things (I am also now the proud owner of a boatload of flavorings and two bottles of hard alcohol... funny I wasn't as bothered that the people at the store might think I was some sort of terrorist/mad bomber as much as the notion they might think I was an <i>alky</i> mad bomber-- maybe because at least a mad bomber would have to at least be smart.. smarter'n or more educated than me... but any fool could be an alky no brains required)
I'm hoping for (save for eventually the introduction of a drop of the food flavoring here or there )that I can come up with a sort of "e liquid for dummies" formula that (aside from the two main ingredients of "PG" which I don't hve just yet but a 'compound pharmacy' in town tomorrow can provide and the VG) that won't require a chemistry or mastery of mathematics metric, some nice mainly 3 part recipe to be cheap, somewhat self sufficient and made of parts nobody can 'get' (can't be banned made illegal) and super easy to make.
(It might not taste perfect but it might get the job done)
Thats my goal. We'll see how close I can come.
This whole excercise/obsession with e-cigs etc etc has also provided just the distraction I need to keep my mind occupied from freaking out about the whole plane/half a country away thing that's coming up for me in two weeks.
In a couple of weeks, I have to take my first plane ride ever for the first time in my life to some place much farther from home than I've ever been, to spend 4 days total (from plane to place and back) where I really can't smoke at all during any of it (knowing this at least a month ago is what really inspired my current quest that has included both snus cigarettes, though roked the tryingto quit thing countles times -- having enough sense to know that navigating airports planes new places and stressful stuff for days where I can't smoke and there will be no place to go smoke is NOT the time to try to quit) I started in this quest.
Since then I have spent a boatload on the trappings all in the name of "it'll pay for itself in the long run" and tryign real hard to get used to not having 'analogs' and at the same time as I start preparing for "E-mageddan" and snus being snuffed out (all this FDA etc talk, the fact that stuffs already banned across Europe etc) I've been doing double time loading up on stuff
I now have 4 total 'disposable' 401's ($17.99 ones marketed that way but they seem fine to me I got chargers etc and I'm saving and using them), 2 510's (enough parts for two of them, sold together as a kit), one 901 and God only knows what else still coming in the mail (I REALLY went nuts... I also have enough snus in my freezer to probably service a small platoon of men for a month)
To this end
I've also ordered an iliota or whatever (I need to just type here not interruping myself to go digging up the name but most readers will know the one I mean)) the sort of carborator-driven vaporizer, aka the "I-Inhale" and a "Vapir Oxygen" because you see, in all of this I also still have about 5 bags of Gambler LIght American Blend Tobacco (I made my analogs with empty tubes and a 'maker' that injects the tobacco into the empty tubes so you got an analog at a fraction of the price for 15 seconds of your time)
I just can't let all that fine tobacco go to waste even if I'm not smoking it but I can surely find someting to do with it.. working out a way to include it with the cheaper core parts of e-liquid plus figuring out whatever else I can do with it with vaporizers etc... so now after seeing some very interesting posts by people like TobaccoBob (I think that's his name) and Nuck and Dvap (sure wish I had enough education to understand that one better), I've got to try this DIY stuff (and really start to make good on this investment plus that preparing for E-mageddan as I'll call it)
I mean if you can soak a snus in glycerin and vaporize it (boy did that ever peak my interest!) why not gambler tobacco?
if you can make some sort of extract out of distilled water and tobacco... surely there's a place for this, a way to get nicotine just up to 'ashtray mouth' without going too far ... and maybe a way that a person who's just got regular US measurements (teaspoons, cups etc) can do.. and I've got a plan.. I have to test this out but I have an idea for a sort of "E liquid for dummies" that might involve something really simple like:
1 part tobacco soaked VG,
1, part tobacco soaked PG,
1 part tobacco soaked water (or 1 part tobacco soaked everclear)
or if all of that is too strong, one part NON tobacco soaked PG, etc, etc
(I just tonight set three small covered contaiers in the fridge of VG, everclear and distilled water, each with their respective fluid at 2 teaspoons soaking an equal 2 teaspoons of gambler tobacco -- its handy that one teaspoon of tobacco is extremely close to the amount it takes to make a cigerette and I figure if I keep the ratio of fluid to tobacco equal I can start to better keep track of what I'm doing to start with)
No matter what I do I can see by vaporizing it directly (when I get my two fancy non e-cig vaporizers I mentioned I ordered) or using it as e-liquid tobacco even is going to go a lot farther for me than if I smoked it
and inspite of all this crazy spending I'm really not rich, this really is an investment thing I believe is going to pay off in the long run
but this is going to require as much cutting out hvving to repeatedly buy new things as I can
I have an idea that with maintaince taking care of this stuff (atomizers etc) and using the clunky vaporizers at home to eitehr directly vape litlte bits of tobacco or the eliquid (and the USB thing when at home to power my e cigs to save on batteries), using snus when the whole "I'm just not getting enough nicotine and I want to inhale the insides out of this e cig' thing really starts to set in (I dont' know what happened with this JC original but it has no flavor much that I can tell, the factory flavor was better at least I could tell it HAD a flavor) and whatever else I can do, using tobacco and making my own e liquids,
I am not going to stink like smoke anymore, eventually my tobacco usage will be even cheaper than its been, I'm going to be healthier, but in some sort of reasonable manner that doesn't require me to be a chemist or keep buying tons of odd new things (I am also now the proud owner of a boatload of flavorings and two bottles of hard alcohol... funny I wasn't as bothered that the people at the store might think I was some sort of terrorist/mad bomber as much as the notion they might think I was an <i>alky</i> mad bomber-- maybe because at least a mad bomber would have to at least be smart.. smarter'n or more educated than me... but any fool could be an alky no brains required)
I'm hoping for (save for eventually the introduction of a drop of the food flavoring here or there )that I can come up with a sort of "e liquid for dummies" formula that (aside from the two main ingredients of "PG" which I don't hve just yet but a 'compound pharmacy' in town tomorrow can provide and the VG) that won't require a chemistry or mastery of mathematics metric, some nice mainly 3 part recipe to be cheap, somewhat self sufficient and made of parts nobody can 'get' (can't be banned made illegal) and super easy to make.
(It might not taste perfect but it might get the job done)
Thats my goal. We'll see how close I can come.
This whole excercise/obsession with e-cigs etc etc has also provided just the distraction I need to keep my mind occupied from freaking out about the whole plane/half a country away thing that's coming up for me in two weeks.
