Phiniac and Siam Mods Cobra Rebuildable Atty

[tmcase]

Found it! How to twist wire for twisted wire coils - YouTube

 

[POSEIDON]

Ok HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!! I cant stop getting hot spots. All over the freaking coil. The wick is flowing amazingly, so its not a wicking issue, Ive fiddled and fiddled with it but I cant get these damn hot spots to go away....

 

[goldcoastmat]

Ok HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!! I cant stop getting hot spots. All over the freaking coil. The wick is flowing amazingly, so its not a wicking issue, Ive fiddled and fiddled with it but I cant get these damn hot spots to go away....

Whats the ohms testing at and the voltage your running it at?

NVM you already answered that, 1.5O at 4v, is the provari giving you an error?

 

[POSEIDON]

Crap forgot to mention:
ohms are now down to 1.4(no idea why the drop same setup)
volts are down to 3.5 or I get a e-1.

=edit=
Now down to 3.3v or the hot spots come back.....

 

[goldcoastmat]

Crap forgot to mention:
ohms are now down to 1.4(no idea why the drop same setup)
volts are down to 3.5 or I get a e-1.

OK e-1 is a short.. thats why you are getting hotspots. Probably one of two things, coil wrap is uneven (tighter in some spots then in others) or not oxydized enough.

My suggestion is to try the petar K

The DrillBit Method - YouTube

you don't have to use a drillbit, I use a allen key. idea is to just make sure that the wick is exactly the same size as whatever you wrap the coil on.

As far as the ohms dropping my experience is that it almost always drops if you run the first test dry, then test again with liquid.

 

[POSEIDON]

The ohms are all over the place Ive had spikes on this coil up to 2.2ohms, and as low as 1.1 ohms(both while wick is wet).

 

[goldcoastmat]

The ohms are all over the place Ive had spikes on this coil up to 2.2ohms, and as low as 1.1 ohms(both while wick is wet).

Definately got a short, I know this is for a different mod but the fix's are pretty much universal on Gen Atty's. and since Phiniac doesn't sell mods I don't feel bad posting it here, best reference link for gen atty building ever IMNSHO. You gotta be logged into ECF to read most of the posts it links to, but that wont be a problem for you lol.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmYrSL_FJC4NdHZUb0xvVzRrNi1Qb2NCQ0dUUVdZUmc#gid=1

On a side note, don't give up man the learning curve is frustrating, but once you got this figured out you will be glad you did, Gen atty's are the best vape you will find right now

 

[yankeebobo]

It's a short. Two options.
1. Twist the wick a little if nudging doesn't work. Your short is right below the hotspot. If you can't twist the coil, you wrapped it too tight.
2. pull it apart, retorch it. Make it glow. Rewrap, test, nudge the coils. By now you may find that the wire hotspot "cut" into the mesh. That may be your short.

 

[POSEIDON]

How tight should the coils be? Barely touching, flush but not digging into, or loose almost not touching?

 

[yankeebobo]

Almost floating. Imagine slipping a sheet of cigarette rolling paper and wrapping on that.

What I do? Wrap on the wick and insert. The wire will spring back ever so slightly and leave you with a perfect wrap. You should be able to remove the wire straight up with minimal resistance. At most, you should be able to gently twist the wire out.

It will fire when too tight. But nudging will be difficult. And if there is a hot spot, it will cut/burn into the wick mesh.

 

[POSEIDON]

Ok I have mine are the right tightness, but there looks like one has for lack of a better way of putting it come loose.

 

[POSEIDON]

its almost as if the wire(32g kanthal a-1) keeps moving. Secondary question how long should my wick be? Mine is just about even with the center post. Is this too long?

 

[yankeebobo]

Ok I have mine are the right tightness, but there looks like one has for lack of a better way of putting it come loose.

Would it happen to be the top coil?
That seems to be the most troublesome hot spot going. Twisting your wick should adjust the coils a little more evenly believe it or not.

You can also sick your paper clip back down and as it goes down nudge the wick around a little.

 

[POSEIDON]

Paper clip? HOLY POOP!!!! Why not I think about that?

 

[yankeebobo]

Paper clip? HOLY POOP!!!! Why not I think about that?

it's ok. You can say holy ....

 

[yankeebobo]

Well, you can but you can't.

 

[POSEIDON]

Paper clip and another round of fiddling seems to have worked the hot spots are gone but I'm not getting much in the way of vapor. This is without a doubt the most annoying yet enjoyable thing I have done in a bit.

 

[POSEIDON]

Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnddddd the coil popped. ...

 

[yankeebobo]

Aaaaaannnnnnnnnnddddd the coil popped. ...

Ok. When you start new turn the Vs way down. That pop is two main reasons. Too high a voltage through a new wire OR that top section really took a beating during your hot spot battle if its still the same wire.

You can also torch the wire first. Try a lighter so you don't blow the wire. Or turn your torch way down.

Also, the twisted wire is very forgiving. Twist up some wire.

 

[POSEIDON]

Yea the coil yesterday the coil popped at the top. Todays coil is a 5/6 wrap(2.5 ohms) at 4.5v and its hitting like a truck. Vapor production is still a bit light, but its a new wick hopefully it will improve as it breaks in.