Picking up a Reuleaux Rx200. Batteries / Charger ?

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With vw mods (tc mods fall within this category) resistance doesn't factor into the amp draw. The calculation:

Watts / volts (the cutoff voltage of the mod) = amps (and add something like 10% to account for current loss in the circuitry).

So, in your case:

70w / 9.6v (the rx200 is a series mod) = 7.3 amps (around 8 amps accounting for circuitry inefficiency). That's the amp draw on each one of the three batteries.

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Thanks for the explanation, it sounds very plausible. Wondering then, why does Steam Engine not take this into consideration when calculating the amp draw in power mode (regulated APV) or perhaps it is because there is no consideration given to the actual configuration of the device being utilized? The example I was using was based on my Sig 150tc in power mode.
 

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Thanks for the explanation, it sounds very plausible. Wondering then, why does Steam Engine not take this into consideration when calculating the amp draw in power mode (regulated APV) or perhaps it is because there is no consideration given to the actual configuration of the device being utilized? The example I was using was based on my Sig 150tc in power mode.
Steam Engine does, just remember to check the regulated and vw boxes. You'll have two result boxes, "atomizer" and "battery drain" the former shows what hits the atty and the latter the actual drain on the battery. You'll notice that the latter doesn't change when you change the resistance.

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Thanks for the explanation, it sounds very plausible. Wondering then, why does Steam Engine not take this into consideration when calculating the amp draw in power mode (regulated APV) or perhaps it is because there is no consideration given to the actual configuration of the device being utilized? The example I was using was based on my Sig 150tc in power mode.
I just noticed that the area I have been considering re amp draw in the Steam Engine Battery Drain calculator is what is hitting my atty. I have read other places that it is safest to leave at least 1/3rd amp head room over the continuous amp rating of the battery but if you take into consideration that the amperage is being distributed over the number of batteries in series that would change the coefficient? Please let me know if you concur.
 

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I just noticed that the area I have been considering re amp draw in the Steam Engine Battery Drain calculator is what is hitting my atty. I have read other places that it is safest to leave at least 1/3rd amp head room over the continuous amp rating of the battery but if you take into consideration that the amperage is being distributed over the number of batteries in series that would change the coefficient? Please let me know if you concur.
With series mods you add the voltages, not the mAh or amps. However, as you have more voltage available the runtime and amp safe limits are pretty much the same. For example, using LG hg2s, with a parallel three-battery setup you'd enter 3.2v for battery voltage (assuming 3.2v as the cutoff), 9000 for the mAh (3x3000), and 60 for the amps (3x20). For a series mod you'd input 9.6v for the battery (3x3.2), 3000 for the mAh, and 20 for the amps. So the series setup will have a third less amps and capacity, but as it has three times the voltage available it will also draw one third of the current and the battery runtime will therefore be tripled (that is to say, the same runtime as in the series setup).

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With series mods you add the voltages, not the mAh or amps. However, as you have more voltage available the runtime and amp safe limits are pretty much the same. For example, using LG hg2s, with a parallel three-battery setup you'd enter 3.2v for battery voltage (assuming 3.2v as the cutoff), 9000 for the mAh (3x3000), and 60 for the amps (3x20). For a series mod you'd input 9.6v for the battery (3x3.2), 3000 for the mAh, and 20 for the amps. So the series setup will have a third less amps and capacity, but as it has three times the voltage available it will also draw one third of the current and the battery runtime will therefore be tripled (that is to say, the same runtime as in the series setup).

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So then running an RX200 (a series mod) with H2's at anything over say 15amps could get dicey? Still confused but getting there slowly...thanks for the explanations!
 

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So then running an RX200 (a series mod) with H2's at anything over say 15amps could get dicey? Still confused but getting there slowly...thanks for the explanations!
I feel safe taking the HG2s all the way to 20 amps. They can handle it. Then again, 15 amps on the rx200 is 130 or 137w (depending on 90% or 95% device efficiency), and few would go higher than that. I think it's perfectly safe to go all the way to 180w with the HG2s. If I wanted to make use of all 200w I'd use Sony vtc4s.

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I feel safe taking the HG2s all the way to 20 amps. They can handle it. Then again, 15 amps on the rx200 is 130 or 137w (depending on 90% or 95% device efficiency), and few would go higher than that. I think it's perfectly safe to go all the way to 180w with the HG2s. If I wanted to make use of all 200w I'd use Sony vtc4s.

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I think I have it now. Thanks! I had been using VTC5's on my Sig 150 for anything over 75w; but from what you have relayed I am fine with my HG2's also.
 
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I think I have it now. Thanks! I had been using VTC5's on my Sig 150 for anything over 75w; but from what you have relayed I am fine with my HG2's also.
Yes. The vtc5 is also a 20 amp battery btw, not 30. I'm really a novice in battery matters, learnt what I know from Mooch here on ecf :) Chuck out his battery tests in this subforum. He's THE expert on batteries.

Oh, missed what subforum we're in. The battery info is in the "batteries and chargers" subforum.

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Yes. The vtc5 is also a 20 amp battery btw, not 30. I'm really a novice in battery matters, learnt what I know from Mooch here on ecf :) Chuck out his battery tests in this subforum. He's THE expert on batteries.

Oh, missed what subforum we're in. The battery info is in the "batteries and chargers" subforum.

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YYY, I've read some of his posts and he knows his stuff!
 

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    So, for a definitive answer, are Samsung 25Rs okay to use with the Reuleaux RX200? The specs recommend 25 amp batteries, and the 25Rs are rated at 20 amp continuous.

    I probably won't need anything over 150 watts, but who knows? I want to be able to run some bulky coils in it. I have a parallel mech, but it really falls short on the ramp up time on, say, a framed staple coil. Or even a dual alien build using lower gauges for the core wires.
     

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    So, for a definitive answer, are Samsung 25Rs okay to use with the Reuleaux RX200? The specs recommend 25 amp batteries, and the 25Rs are rated at 20 amp continuous.

    I probably won't need anything over 150 watts, but who knows? I want to be able to run some bulky coils in it. I have a parallel mech, but it really falls short on the ramp up time on, say, a framed staple coil. Or even a dual alien build using lower gauges for the core wires.
    The 25Rs are good to up about 180w. They are sturdy batteries so they should be able to handle 200w, but I never recommend exceeding the cdr.

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    Yep, sammy 25rs still working great... all 6 of them, charged by my trusty 3 year old $15 nitecore i4.....as i look at black rx200 available on vapenw for 40 bux.....how you getting on op jb?

    Have had it for about 2 weeks now and like it. Have only played around with the temp control a couple of time, built a ni coil, tried a Kanger pre built ni and ss coil and haven't been overly impressed. I really like the feel in my hand and using LG HG2s I get about a day and half of run time, was hoping for a lot longer as I got about the same out of my Istick 50. For the price these are going for I will probably pick up another for a back up.
     

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    This thread has helped so much. Thanks Mooch and KenD. You guys have cleared a lot up. I too was stuck on factoring my coil build into how high I could safely use LG HG2 batteries in my RX200. I see know that I needn't worry about vaping my o.1ohm dual Clapton build at anything under 150 watts... Even on half charged batteries. Thanks for the time you guys spend teaching us noobs.
     
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