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Ok so after reading this whole thread.....Unfortunately i either Missed it or there was no definitive answer...So what does one do for dry skin.......Vitamin D,the baby wipes,Noxzema,being in the sun more etc etc.... Not really a lot of pimple issues sometimes though i get them, but not as much as reported by other ECF member's.....Just having dry skin all the time.....Thanks in advance
Ok so after reading this whole thread.....Unfortunately i either Missed it or there was no definitive answer...So what does one do for dry skin.......Vitamin D,the baby wipes,Noxzema,being in the sun more etc etc.... Not really a lot of pimple issues sometimes though i get them, but not as much as reported by other ECF member's.....Just having dry skin all the time.....Thanks in advance
Lots of suggestions, but nothing definitive yet. I keep checking back for the miracle cure though.
Darrigaaz, stay tuned. I bought out the store, based on everyone's suggestions, but am only on day two of trying products and vits. I'll be back in a few days with initial results. Definitive results.
I use the parents choice sensitive real cloth wipes that are fragrance free and alcohol free and they work wonderfully! At night I spritz my face with water that has lavender and ylang ylang essential oil in it then use 5 drops emu oil with 1 drop lavender and one drop ylang ylang essential oil and gently rub into my face and neck. Emu oil is wonderful for any type of skin. I have oily skin but this does not make it any more oily and would work wonders on dry skin. My face is nice and smooth and I only get blemishes every now and again. This may work for some people out there
If you want to go with straight over the counter, pick it up at Wal-Mart type products, a gentle, soap free cleanser once a day and good moisturizer once or twice a day. Just make sure it's noncomedogenic (won't clog pores.) and/or hypo-allergenic. Again, Neutrogena Noxzema, Oil of Olay all make good products. Cetaphil is also a good brand. Kiss My Face which is also found at Wal-Mart has a good and inexpensive olive oil soap. It really takes some trial and error to find what works best for you specifically. Just don't get taken in by the expensive "miracle cures". Nine times out of ten a gentle cleaning and moisturizing does better than anything. I've got combination skin, oily on my forehead and nose, dry everywhere else, been dealing with breakouts since I was 13. After dozens of different products I finally settled on one put out by Johnson and Johnson called Purpose. (Mis-named it in my previous post.) It strips the oil while leaving the dry parts feeling normal. I haven't been using it very long, but so far so good. My moisturizer is Neutrogena Oil Free for Sensitive Skin.
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Very helpful, Storm. Thanks. And if you want proof that great minds think alike, check this out. The Rite-Aid I went to had a big sale on Noxema and O of Olay and others, which actually meant that most of those products were sold out. So I began to read the labels of the 1001 non-sale items--I just wanted a non-nonsense gentle cleanser and conditioner and would have bought any package that had them both. Simple is good.
Well, guess what I found? Two linked products that looked great to me: "Purpose", the same product brand you use. There's a partner moisturizer for the cleanser, so I bought both. Cheap, easy-to-use pumps, no smell, and great feeling, but I won't know more for a week or so. Maybe I done good? Well, I'll update soon.
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One word.....sunshine.....
Our wonderful medical researchers, who find something deadly everyday, have warned everyone for years to stay out of the sun for fear of skin cancer. The result is an epidemic vitamin-D defecit.....and low emotional states. UV light does wonders on acne as well. Peel off the clothes and start worshipping the sun again.
Oddly enough that's what both of the dermatologists told me when I complained about my skin (facial acne, keritosis pilaris, and a single spot of excema on my left upper arm) ... "Get some sun!!"
Jan
I've been 'drafting' the following for awhile whenever I see someone post about persistent breakouts, and by now it's gotten so long that I should probably trim it back first, but what the hey:
Anyone who continues to have breakouts despite trying whatever else they can think of might want to consider asking their dermatologist (or possibly any general practitioner/internist, if more convenient) to prescribe tretinoin cream. That's the generic for/active ingredient in Retin-A, so less $$ that way. Tretinoin is used to treat acne (also fine lines, appearance of large pores, blotchiness...
). I love it myself... tho it may take awhile to get to the 'loving' point. There can be a not-real-fun phase to go through at first, but it SO 'does' something, that it was well worth it to me. I started using it a few years ago actually (primarily for fine lines & blotchiness... indescribable difference now!!), but had gotten kinda lazy about it up until I started vaping and encountered breakouts and bumpiness.
Typically it can cause redness and flaking for the first few weeks. It sloughs off surface layers, and while it may seem nothing but drying until the flaking stops, it actually improves skin's ability to retain good (i.e 'anti-aging') moisture. Different ppl's skin can handle diff strengths of it, but a relatively mild one that would probably be okay for most to start with is .05%. There's also a .025% if you want to start even lower. Conversely, if your skin is pretty thick and oily, and/or you want to progress faster and are willing to deal with the increased side effects of that, there are also higher strengths. It also comes in a gel form and maybe that's better for some skin types, but on mine it just seemed to make my skin look and feel tight (didn't give it that much of a chance tho, since I liked the feel of the cream better right away). My own skin tone is towards the 'medium' end of light-to-medium, and is usually 'normal'/in-between dry and oily. Maybe the gel is better on oilier skin.
However, if what someone is experiencing is more like contact dermatitis or eczema rather than pimples, tretinoin may not be the right thing to use and may make it worse. Although, what I've had since beginning to vape is more like a combo -- a couple patches of what does seem more like contact dermatitis, then also tiny bumps on my forehead (not all that visible fortunately); and more so up until a few weeks ago, sudden big sore bumps. I still do use the tretinoin, and avoid the contact dermatitis-y patches, then swab them with something after application just in case. Because, for me it helps so much with the other aspects that I'd hate to give it up. It's worked out well, and I'm hardly getting the sudden sore bumps anymore (knock wood), but if I do, I dab some extra cream directly on them and much of the time that seems to stop them in their tracks. (FYI, I avoid putting it on any freshly broken skin tho. To me anyway it seems to delay healing in that case.)
Note, this is a treatment that requires sun protection/avoidance of much direct sunlight particularly in the initial phases and if using daily. But afterward, or if you eventually go to a maintenance level of use only (what I do), that eases up.
Well, hope that can help someone. Like many other prescription substances there will be some who had a reaction to it, or in reality just didn't stick it out through any initial un-fun phase (which really shouldn't be bad here if you start at one of the lower strengths); but since everyone's different, you really just have to try it yourself to know. Has definitely been working literal wonders for countless ppl (including moi!!) over many years.
Anyone who continues to have breakouts despite trying whatever else they can think of might want to consider asking their dermatologist (or possibly any general practitioner/internist, if more convenient) to prescribe tretinoin cream. That's the generic for/active ingredient in Retin-A, so less $$ that way. Tretinoin is used to treat acne (also fine lines, appearance of large pores, blotchiness...
). I love it myself... tho it may take awhile to get to the 'loving' point. There can be a not-real-fun phase to go through at first, but it SO 'does' something, that it was well worth it to me. I started using it a few years ago actually (primarily for fine lines & blotchiness... indescribable difference now!!), but had gotten kinda lazy about it up until I started vaping and encountered breakouts and bumpiness.Typically it can cause redness and flaking for the first few weeks. It sloughs off surface layers, and while it may seem nothing but drying until the flaking stops, it actually improves skin's ability to retain good (i.e 'anti-aging') moisture. Different ppl's skin can handle diff strengths of it, but a relatively mild one that would probably be okay for most to start with is .05%. There's also a .025% if you want to start even lower. Conversely, if your skin is pretty thick and oily, and/or you want to progress faster and are willing to deal with the increased side effects of that, there are also higher strengths. It also comes in a gel form and maybe that's better for some skin types, but on mine it just seemed to make my skin look and feel tight (didn't give it that much of a chance tho, since I liked the feel of the cream better right away). My own skin tone is towards the 'medium' end of light-to-medium, and is usually 'normal'/in-between dry and oily. Maybe the gel is better on oilier skin.
However, if what someone is experiencing is more like contact dermatitis or eczema rather than pimples, tretinoin may not be the right thing to use and may make it worse. Although, what I've had since beginning to vape is more like a combo -- a couple patches of what does seem more like contact dermatitis, then also tiny bumps on my forehead (not all that visible fortunately); and more so up until a few weeks ago, sudden big sore bumps. I still do use the tretinoin, and avoid the contact dermatitis-y patches, then swab them with something after application just in case. Because, for me it helps so much with the other aspects that I'd hate to give it up. It's worked out well, and I'm hardly getting the sudden sore bumps anymore (knock wood), but if I do, I dab some extra cream directly on them and much of the time that seems to stop them in their tracks. (FYI, I avoid putting it on any freshly broken skin tho. To me anyway it seems to delay healing in that case.)
Note, this is a treatment that requires sun protection/avoidance of much direct sunlight particularly in the initial phases and if using daily. But afterward, or if you eventually go to a maintenance level of use only (what I do), that eases up.
Well, hope that can help someone. Like many other prescription substances there will be some who had a reaction to it, or in reality just didn't stick it out through any initial un-fun phase (which really shouldn't be bad here if you start at one of the lower strengths); but since everyone's different, you really just have to try it yourself to know. Has definitely been working literal wonders for countless ppl (including moi!!
) over many years.
If the product works as well for you as it has for me so far then I would say yeah, you did good. I liked that it says it's gentle enough to use when removing eye makeup. Since I wash my face in the shower with a buff puff I definitely don't want anything that's going to sting if I get it in my eyes, and as of now they have been good to their word. Definitely let us know how it's going.
Storm, agreed except for the make-up part. I also like the "same as rainwater" and "OK to get in eyes" aspects as well as the fact that the moisturizer is light and odorless. Seems like quality stuff. But mostly, I love those pumps!
And Miss MIA, thanks for the thought. I'll keep it as a back-up and suspect that someone here may benefit from it.
I also like the "same as rainwater" and "OK to get in eyes" aspects as well as the fact that the moisturizer is light and odorless. Seems like quality stuff. But mostly, I love those pumps!And Miss MIA, thanks for the thought. I'll keep it as a back-up and suspect that someone here may benefit from it.
Oh, I don't wear the stuff either jeffree, for the most part anyway. (Special occasions only.) but I don't want my eyeballs getting so darn clean they squeak either. 
And you're right, the pump is a definite plus, no more trying to squeeze gunk out of a tube and ending up with half the contents on the floor! 
I guess I'm kinda lucky in one regard as to having oily skin already. I already had the routine down-pat...One very good thing about oily skin is it tends to age slower!
Since I am female, and we tend to take more stringent care of our skin, here is my routine:
I use an exfoliating soap made specifically for the face on one day, and a gentle facial cleanser the next. I ALWAYS follow cleansing with moisturizer...it is very true that over-dried skin produces more oil! If you are having trouble with shiny skin, it is best to make sure your moisturizer is water-based. I use Olay Pro X (cause I am very afraid of aging, it's expensive, go for something cheaper).
Twice a week, I use a microderm abrasion kit (also from Olay)...only because I am trying to avoid aging as much as I can. This could be very helpful for problem acne sufferers, but again, find something less expensive.
Since I am female, and we tend to take more stringent care of our skin, here is my routine:
I use an exfoliating soap made specifically for the face on one day, and a gentle facial cleanser the next. I ALWAYS follow cleansing with moisturizer...it is very true that over-dried skin produces more oil! If you are having trouble with shiny skin, it is best to make sure your moisturizer is water-based. I use Olay Pro X (cause I am very afraid of aging, it's expensive, go for something cheaper).
Twice a week, I use a microderm abrasion kit (also from Olay)...only because I am trying to avoid aging as much as I can. This could be very helpful for problem acne sufferers, but again, find something less expensive.
Boy, this thread has turned into a very interesting lesson in facial care. As a (probably typical) guy, I didn't know half of this stuff! Thanks Ms and everyone else for chiming in.
I have to tell you a secret. When the check-out woman saw my 'choices'
(assembled from this thread), I could swear that she gave a little smile and nod--as if to say, "here's a guy who knows his skin." LOL!
I have to tell you a secret. When the check-out woman saw my 'choices'
(assembled from this thread), I could swear that she gave a little smile and nod--as if to say, "here's a guy who knows his skin." LOL!
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Thought I should add an update after switching to VG cartos for the past two weeks. I was careful during this time not to change anything else about my regular diet or cleansing (using mild facial cleanser and oil-free moisture).
In short, I've noticed no physiological changes other than one big one: my face is now clear of pimples and some mild redness that I had when vaping PG for a few months. Success! We'll see if it continues.
Unfortunately, my scalp still has some tiny, itchy zits under my hair, so I've begun trying some moisturizing shampoos. Selsin Blue and all that.
Also unfortunately, I definitely prefer the taste of PG cartos (tastes are much purer), but I adapted to VG rather quickly and am heartened to learn that some prem versions are on the way. No need to leave the V4L family. Hooray for that!
One other related thought... The word allergy may be too strong for any discussion of such side effects. My zits and mild facial flushing were all I noticed from 2 PG cartos a day. In all other ways, I felt fine. Now, with VG only, I feel exactly the same except that my face is as clear as it's been for the past 10 years. Nice not to look 18. I'll likely return to my PG stash after some time to try again--my body may react differently in six months--but I've accepted my possible fate as a long-term VG guy. Either way, it's all good, especially when I remember the nasty cig alternative. I'll close by simply encouraging anyone with similar symptoms to try VG. Just give it a couple of weeks to let things sort out. Over and out.
In short, I've noticed no physiological changes other than one big one: my face is now clear of pimples and some mild redness that I had when vaping PG for a few months. Success! We'll see if it continues.
Unfortunately, my scalp still has some tiny, itchy zits under my hair, so I've begun trying some moisturizing shampoos. Selsin Blue and all that.
Also unfortunately, I definitely prefer the taste of PG cartos (tastes are much purer), but I adapted to VG rather quickly and am heartened to learn that some prem versions are on the way. No need to leave the V4L family. Hooray for that!
One other related thought... The word allergy may be too strong for any discussion of such side effects. My zits and mild facial flushing were all I noticed from 2 PG cartos a day. In all other ways, I felt fine. Now, with VG only, I feel exactly the same except that my face is as clear as it's been for the past 10 years. Nice not to look 18. I'll likely return to my PG stash after some time to try again--my body may react differently in six months--but I've accepted my possible fate as a long-term VG guy. Either way, it's all good, especially when I remember the nasty cig alternative. I'll close by simply encouraging anyone with similar symptoms to try VG. Just give it a couple of weeks to let things sort out. Over and out.
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I'm a newb (one week analog free) and no problems yet.........except for one teeny not so bad non-problem, my sinuses have dried out a bit.
I use to blow my nose quite a bit, probably to much, now it's not so frequent which is a good thing!
Ray
I use to blow my nose quite a bit, probably to much, now it's not so frequent which is a good thing!
Ray
OMG! I have never thought of this, I have hardly ever had breakouts even as a teen. But the past 3-4 days I have had a few problem areas. I have been using some of the VG and PG so I am wondering why a break out from vaping? Is it indeed an allergy to PG? I love my PG and don't want to leave it!
Deez I always have dry eyes so I can't say that I have noticed anything there, no difference for me, always dry.
Deez I always have dry eyes so I can't say that I have noticed anything there, no difference for me, always dry.
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Brooke, I would think an allergic reaction would present itself in a way other than a blemish or pimple. Unless you are having any OBVIOUS allergy symptoms, I wouldn't worry about switching.
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