Please help settle an argument

[adubs]

Hi all

I have successfully converted a friend to ecigs. We both use SI Volt. She just ordered some juice that is 100%VG and from reading the posts on this site it is not advisable to use that when refilling cartos....correct? What can she do?

 

[the_vape_nerd]

Well, I'm thinking she could use it, but I just doubt it would absorb well into those cartos, it's just too thick. I've never used anything more than a 40% vg concentration, but my guess is that if you are going all VG, the only real alternative is using an atomizer and cartridge set up. She'd have to get a different device for that though.

 

[wv2win]

Mix it with the same flavor and strength eliquid in a PG base. Most who mix PG and VG liquids find that you need about a 70% PG to 30% VG to get the best performance from a carto (or 80%/20%). Plus you get more flavor and throat hit with PG liquid.

 

[Danielsuzuki]

Depends on the juice. My 100% VG Boba's Bounty is thick, the 10%\90% pg/vg hype is much thinner. Even the 100% VG raf-a-licious is pretty thin. All from Alien Visions. I've got some 70/30 that's thicker than hype.

 

[tyleris12]

All I use is 100% VG e-liquids in my cartos...have for the past 15 months. Just depends on where you buy it from, as some vendors VG is super thick and others aren't.

 

[adubs]

It's Johnson Creek (which I told her not to get anyway but she is a Know-it-All...hahaha).

 

[emanguba]

Yes, she will be able to use the 100% VG.

Might take longer for soaking, but works well if you use a syringe to refill.

 

[Boodle]

Some of the 100% VG vendors dilute the juice with distilled water. Pure VG is gooey and too thick to move through a small dropper bottle opening. Suggest putting 3ml or so of your thick juice in a seperate bottle, adding a couple of drops at a time of distilled water until you get the consistency you want for carto filling. Take notes of how many drops worked per 3ml and you can duplicate the process on a bigger bottle.

You can also use Pure Grain Alcohol (Everclear). It changes the taste of the juice a bit and moreso after steeping, Good luck.

 

[adubs]

Thanks for all the help everyone.....I will pass along all the info.

 

[dormouse]

Volt themselves use 80PG/20VG which is also what I recommend. I use PG w/ 30% or 10% VG to get great carto life with continued good drag and sicking. I also avoid all juices that drop flavoring sediment in the stuffing (clogs a carto, ruining the drag and shortening its life)

 

[tj99959]

Bottom line; a thin VG has been thinned.
Pure VG will not work well in a carto.

 

[carpedebass]

Bottom line; a thin VG has been thinned.
Pure VG will not work well in a carto.

What he said...^^^^

 

[Ridgerunner]

If looking for an e-juice vendor. Me and my wife have been happy with pink spot vapor and we have tried many other brands but taste is as always subjective. Find a vendor that has smaller size sample bottles so you can get a variety.

 

[Jeremy-WI]

IIRC the Red Oak line from Johnson Creek is the VG and is very thin and should work very well in cartos. Virgin vapor VG is also thin enough for cartos.

Boba's Bounty is some of the thickest VG I have had, some americaneliquidstore.com 100% vg are similar, but you can get them to work in cartos by thinning or by soaking the carto with a few drops of pure unflavored PG and letting the PG soak into the carto for a while and then add the thick VG and wait even longer before vaping it

 

[hairball]

I use 100% VG is my cartos without issues. The only thing you can't do is chainvape so it's better to have 2 PV's going so that one can cool and wick. Also, the VG can be diluted with distilled water or vodka for easier wicking.

 

[Kent C]

"100% VG" doesn't exist unless you're vaping straight VG without flavoring or nicotine - not advisable.

I use a VG blend and a VG nic base. Here's the components for say, 18mg nic ejuice:

9 parts Platinum Ice in VG base - the nicotine itself isn't 'VG' so while this is mostly VG it isn't 100%

7 parts Flavoring - most flavoring is based in PG but some flavors are enhanced by having some VG or some alcohol or both - not 100% VG at all - in fact mostly PG.

14 parts VG (Aqueous Glycerin, in my case) 85% VG and 15% H2O

So out of the whole 30 parts - 21 parts @ 70% of the whole, has @85% VG. The rest - the 7 parts flavoring is mostly not VG but PG and the flavoring components.

So most of my ejuices are about the same viscosity as PG ejuices with the VG being diluted by the nicotine, H2O/alcohol, PG and flavoring. And I've never had any wicking problems in cartos, tanks, cartridges from a result of the ejuice.

 

[patty_4_20_11]

I haven't had any problems but I use an ego-t.

 

[Rule62]

There really is no 100% VG juice. PG free is more accurate. PG free juice is thinned with alcohol or distilled water.

 

[tyleris12]

There really is no 100% VG juice. PG free is more accurate. PG free juice is thinned with alcohol or distilled water.

I agree...the juice I use is 100% PG free...nic base is VG, flavoring is PG free, and distilled water is used to thin before the flavor is added, so no flavor lose occurs.

 

[Kent C]

There really is no 100% VG juice. PG free is more accurate. PG free juice is thinned with alcohol or distilled water.

Even then, the flavoring base is mainly PG. But for those few with severe PG allergies, some vendors will make flavors in a VG base.