PMTAs - who is doing what?

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HigherStateD

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The most creative one I got once was "aromatherapy supplies." :lol:
That's a common one among alternative vapes....

Damn, @puffon beat me to it....
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I just got this:
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Hey, it's legal in my state. No need to hide the contents. But e-cigs is a different story. :facepalm:
Now I know more how it felt in '37. Tbh, most flavors will survive maybe not vape wizard, hardware will get through, or be easy enough to make, PG/VG are not a concern, as they're readily available. I worry about people desperate enough to go to the grey/black market for nicotine. Anyone know when the tax is going into effect?
 
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Here is a post from another thread.
I talked to my nic vendor and they are in the process of completing their PMTA so they will be open for business after September 9th.
So may be they will keep operating. They should be able to continue selling to consumers as before. I don't regret anything I've stockpiled.
 

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Tbh, most flavors will survive maybe not vape wizard,

They'll just have to change their name, like Bull City did. ;)
hardware will get through

I'm not that optimistic about hardware, though. I haven't heard of any hardware makers submitting PMTAs, have you?
Anyone know when the tax is going into effect?

On nic? Nothing yet. Join CASAA (if you haven't done so yet) and visit their forum here for updates. They fight for us and need our support.

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They'll just have to change their name, like Bull City did. ;)


I'm not that optimistic about hardware, though. I haven't heard of any hardware makers submitting PMTAs, have you?


On nic? Nothing yet. Join CASAA (if you haven't done so yet) and visit their forum here for updates. They fight for us and need our support.

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Apparently one of the big Chinese brands is doing a few. I *think* it was innokin, and only a handful of mods. Very few.
 

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That River Supply email seems mostly intended for commercial mixers who need their documentation from River Supply to help those mixers that are filing PMTA's.

Should nicotine sales be restricted to only those who have a business license, consumers will be left hanging. That's my idea of how the FDA can cut us off without notice.
 

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Should nicotine sales be restricted to only those who have a business license, consumers will be left hanging. That's my idea of how the FDA can cut us off without notice.

But do they have jurisdiction? Nicotine is not a "finished product" and I'm sure it was being sold in the U.S. before the grandfather date.
 

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But do they have jurisdiction? Nicotine is not a "finished product" and I'm sure it was being sold in the U.S. before the grandfather date.
Prior to 2009 here, it was sold in hardware stores. Then was scheduled as a dangerous poison when they got a wiff that vaping existed
 

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But do they have jurisdiction? Nicotine is not a "finished product" and I'm sure it was being sold in the U.S. before the grandfather date.
I'm thinking they can do that on the basis that the FDA has the authority to regulate tobacco manufacturers. Restricting nicotine concentrate sales to approved manufacturers would seem like a simple likely step in that regulation.
 

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I'm thinking they can do that on the basis that the FDA has the authority to regulate tobacco manufacturers. Restricting nicotine concentrate sales to approved manufacturers would seem like a simple likely step in that regulation.

IOW, they can do whatever they bloody want. I agree. :facepalm:
 

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Prior to 2009 here, it was sold in hardware stores. Then was scheduled as a dangerous poison when they got a wiff that vaping existed
Iirc, in PA, it was classified as a poison, used in organic farming. The FDA undid that when vaping took off.
 
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