My only experience with pods really is juul. Im kinda tired of the expense and just worked up a batch of high salt nic juice to refill my juul pods with and it works. I do realize that ill get 3 to 4 refills before the pod becomes unusable. Bad thing is, my diy mix tastes better than anything juul makes and in my opinion, better than most commercial juices so im looking for a good refillable pod vape now and i dont know what all is available now.