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Pod systems... ugh!

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Shawn Hoefer, Jun 15, 2019.

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  1. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    My Mountain
    @Rossum


    im taking this to mean they are encouraging the UL certification for e-cigarettes




    FDA finalizes guidance for premarket tobacco product applications for electronic nicotine delivery systems as part of commitment to continuing a strong oversight of e-cigarettes
     
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  2. gerrymi

    gerrymi Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    If you ever find yourself admitted to a "We Confiscate ALL E-Cigarettes" Hospital...you'll be QUITE happy when you run across the inconspicuous MINIFIT you have slipped into your gown pocket...

    ..
     
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  3. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I think you're going to have to find a more discreet hiding place.

    :lol:
     
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  4. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    In all fairness, if I hadn't found a tiny mod that fits the need for me, the pod would get much more play. In such a case, I'd probably be inclined to grab something regulated, such as @gerrymi's betrothed... :laugh:

    I expect nobody takes me seriously anyway (at least I'd hope not), but I'll clearly state (just in case) that I'm just here having some fun. :blush:

    Life is short, and laughter counts (for me, at least).
     
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  5. gerrymi

    gerrymi Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Jockstrap???

    ..
     
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  6. AngeNZ

    AngeNZ Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2018
    New Zealand
    As a recent quitter (17 months ago), I'm so glad there were no pod systems back then. What helped me quit and staying quit was the reliability and capacity of the equipment I used. I don't think for me, pods could've provided that.

    The only pods I do have now, are ones I've won. And I use one of those, the innokin eqs for work vaping (on the farm) due to it's tiny size.

    Agree completely, laughter is priceless ;)
     
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  7. bombastinator

    bombastinator ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2010
    MN USA
    To be fair, that “outside the system” lending was often from some seriously shady quasi bank like organizations that had numerous problems. They may have gone at it too hard though.

    I actually sort of like the Chinese governmental system. It’s got some serious problem areas in practice, but conceptually is pretty interesting.
     
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  8. Katdarling

    Katdarling Blinged mods and poli-TIX ready! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    :thumbs:

    and

    :lol:
     
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  9. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    You're getting warmer! Hospital gowns don't leave many options.

    :angel:
     
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  10. vapdivrr

    vapdivrr ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 8, 2012
    sarasota,fl
    A pod mod is the most basic mtl device one can get. In terms of being a great vape, it's a 3 compared to what a 9 or 10 could be in a small rebuildable mtl rta. I have mtl set ups that are very close in size and weight to a pod, but so much better if you had the time and patience to do it.....and the waste, pod mods are not environmentally friendly and all those empty pods and disposable mods are just plastic that will be a potential issue....but if they help folks to stop smoking, then perhaps they are doing some good
     
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  11. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Is there something that makes you think that the existing Juul battery/device won't meet the standards for UL certification?
     
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  12. Opinionated

    Opinionated Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2015
    My Mountain
    I was under the impression they didn't have UL certification right now..

    which would mean any redesigning necessary for that certification, in order to submit a UL certified battery for approval...
     
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  13. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dunno if they do or not, or if they've even submitted to UL yet. But if Joytech can get a UL approval for a device (and they have) then surely Juul can too. :)

    ETA: There's an interesting Catch-22 with that for Juul. Their existing "battery" design pre-dates the publication of the UL 8139 standard. So it may indeed need some revision or re-design to meet that standard. But due to the FDA's "No new products after 8/8/2016" rule, they can't introduce a new or revised battery until after it's gotten a PMTA approval. So Juul may very well have a new battery in the wings that they've gotten UL's stamp of approval on, that they will submit to the FDA for PMTA approval, but they can't sell that new battery just yet.
     
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  14. mountainbikermark

    mountainbikermark Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2014
    central Virginia
    [/QUOTE]'Probably not. But let's face reality: Most people don't care about longevity. They want something that's as easy as opening a new pack of smokes and lighting one up, and they want the device to be inexpensive, even if the cost of the consumables ends up being much higher in the long run.[/QUOTE]


    This

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  15. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    Good thing they don't take your temperature the old fashioned way anymore.
     
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  16. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Open mind for a different view... Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    :thumb: :thumbs: :lol:

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  17. classwife

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    :shock:
     
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  18. Katdarling

    Katdarling Blinged mods and poli-TIX ready! Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Kan't leave these boyz alone for a minute! :lol:
     
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  19. classwife

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    Amen :lol:
     
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  20. mountainbikermark

    mountainbikermark Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2014
    central Virginia
    Don't like pods because they discontinue, hard to find parts etc?
    Try getting the right stuff for Smok tanks. Holy crap, there's a thousand different versions that have different threading along with any other reason they can think of to make it impractical to buy drop ins for .
    My e8 hasn't given me any spitback in the heat of the workday whereas my tanks are useless unless I blow out before inhaling when it's in the upper 90s at work. Environmental control is not an option at my job but choosing vapor or tobacco is and when the stress is on the last thing I'm gonna do is baby a device because it's spitting raw juice into my throat .
    There's too many choices for whatever your vape of choice is but that's NOT a bad thing considering the alternative if there were no choices , which will become reality if the 4th branch of government gets its way.

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