poll of the symptom: bleeding gums

[SuziQ]

This is my first attempt at a poll. Hope it works.

I have been suffering from bleeding gums since starting esmoking exclusively and thought it might be useful to see how many others also have this going on.

When I say bleeding gums, I am talking about when cleaning teeth.

 

[Bellinghamster]

I've got my share of side effects, but my gums are happy!

 

[Grumpysanta]

I don't think bleeding gums is a side effect of vaping, more a side effect of not smoking tobacco because the blood is now thinner.

 

[efaglil]

Suze, I don't get bleeding gums either but occasionally get a slight nose bleed. It could all be related to circulation. Hope it gets sorted before your hols!

 

[felspar]

Ever hear of Scurvy? If you have bleeding gums, you might want to read up a bit on the disease condition Scurvy. No, its not that bad yet, but everything starts somewhere. Then start taking some extra vitamin C with bioflavonoids, everyday.

We don't make our own vitamin C, you have to get it from somewhere, and there isn't much in food nowadays. If you are only taking a multivitamin, the measly rda is not nearly enough. Smoking, and possibly e-smoking uses up your vitamin C. (Oxidants - antioxidants). Its no fun to lose your teeth, and it would be a shame, if it were for lack of a inexpensive vitamin...

Also get yourself a water-pik, (water-jet flossing machine), and use it!

~felspar

 

[Bertrand]

Glycerine: A Key Cosmetic Ingredient - Google Book Search

p390

Might be an issue.

 

[SuziQ]

Yes, I have heard of scurvy. I know I live in the UK and that may make us a third world country these days. I am clearly not short of a bob or two, as I can afford lots of things, including ecigs, inexpensive vitamins and fresh organic fruit and vegetables. ffs.

Ever hear of Scurvy? If you have bleeding gums, you might want to read up a bit on the disease condition Scurvy. No, its not that bad yet, but everything starts somewhere. Then start taking some extra vitamin C with bioflavonoids, everyday.

We don't make our own vitamin C, you have to get it from somewhere, and there isn't much in food nowadays. If you are only taking a multivitamin, the measly RDA is not nearly enough. Smoking, and possibly e-smoking uses up your vitamin C. (Oxidants - antioxidants). Its no fun to lose your teeth, and it would be a shame, if it were for lack of a inexpensive vitamin...

Also get yourself a water-pik, (water-jet flossing machine), and use it!

~felspar

 

[ApOsTle51]

i didnt vote , after starting vaping for a few weeks i went through a couple of weeks of bleeding gums when brushing, but it settled down and i no longer suffer with that anymore.

 

[SuziQ]

i didnt vote , after starting vaping for a few weeks i went through a couple of weeks of bleeding gums when brushing, but it settled down and i no longer suffer with that anymore.

That's heartening news indeed apostle.
I am sure I am no scurvy knave, but I might start having slices of lime in my g&t, while on the yacht, just in case. Seriously, it may not hurt to up the vit c, especially at this time of year. I usually do if there are lots of colds about.

 

[SuziQ]

I started with Eludril this morning and just went and cleaned my teeth again
- no bleeding!!!
I always knew that stuff was very good, but not that good.
I have had bleeding every time I have cleaned my teeth for the past two weeks and I am not talking about a tiny amount, but this time, nothing. I am going to continue with it for the next week and perhaps things will go back to normal. I should also make a dental appointment.

 

[Kate]

I didn't vote either, like Apo I did get some bleeding but it stopped.

 

[satake]

I've been E-smoking only since Nov 23rd. No bleeding gums, but........... I've had this symptom before when I tried to quit using the patch. I would mention this to your doctor since tooth/gum problems can sometimes be indicative of other problems.


- NICOTINE PATCH- Side Effects
More common side effects may include: Bleeding gums, too much saliva, hiccups, indigestion, slight swelling of the mouth, injury to teeth or cheeks, nausea, upset stomach, and sore throat.

Less common or rare side effects may include: ........, dry mouth, swollen gums, tongue, or throat, mouth sores, muscle pain, rashes, and sweating.

If these rare or other symptoms develop or get stronger, inform your doctor at once.
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To me these symptoms sound like what a lot here are reporting.

 

[SuziQ]

wow satake, these do definitely seem to be a list of things that people are reporting having problems with. The dose of nicotine in patches is much less than we are vaping generally. I am off to look into this more.

 

[Bertrand]

hmm.. I'm a bit concerned about the glycerine book: it does seem like smoking glycerine may not be too different to sucking on candy all day.

 

[SuziQ]

hmm.. I'm a bit concerned about the glycerine book: it does seem like smoking glycerine may not be too different to sucking on candy all day.

Bertrand, I tried to look at the page you directed me to, but wasn't able to read it.

 

[Mr.Darcy]

i expected more people to share this complaint...

im sure ive seen it mentioned numerous times on the forum...maybe the ones who mentioned it have since gone away and died...

 

[SuziQ]

haha, just as long as it wasn't due to bleeding gums.

 

[Bertrand]

Here's the bit, SuziQ. Elsewhere it explains that fluoride inhibits the glycerine uptake by bacteria:

Glycerine can be bound by Streptococcus mutans, an important resident of dental plaque. ... [Glycerine] is not of practical consequence in the development of dental caries where it is employed in oral care products, particularly because they almost universally are formulated with fluoride or another agent with antimicrobial properties.
In general, however, it must be recognized that glycerine is a substance that can support bacterial function. It can serve as a bacterial nutrient and enter metabolic processes of a limited number of bacteria capable of acid production. ...

Since I personally use glycerine only e-liquid, if PG provides the same protective benefit as plaque, I will not benefit from it. Either way, it looks like something to bear in mind if you are having issues with your teeth.

 

[Kate]

..maybe the ones who mentioned it have since gone away and died...

That's what I was thinking about the people who overdosed heavily on nicotine. The two who had to go to hospital haven't been back since.

 

[Bellinghamster]

Seems to me if smokers were that faint-hearted, they wouldn't have made it through their intial smoking experiences with analogs... Of course, we're all a bit older now and probably don't enjoy the "amusement park" mentality of body-maintenance as much