Polosa/Caponetta expose and refute lies about e-cigs by CDC and others in Lancet Oncology

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Bill Godshall

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Polosa and Caponnetto have exposed CDC's manipulation and misrepresentation of 2011/2012 NYTS data on e-cig use by youth in a peer reviewed medical journal.


In response to Lancet Oncology’s editorial at
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1470204513704686

Correspondence
Time for evidence-based e-cigarette regulation
Lancet Oncology
Volume 14, Issue 13, December 2013, Pages e582–e583
Riccardo Polosa, Pasquale Caponnetto
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1470204513704959

The alarm bells being rung in your recent Editorial1 on e-cigarettes are unsupported by present data. The Editorial points to a recent US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) report,2 which claims that e-cigarettes usage in teenagers has doubled from 1·1% in 2011 to 2·1% in 2012, to support the statement that e-cigarettes are “becoming a gateway product, attracting more young people to begin smoking”.

However, careful reading of the CDC report shows that there are no real data to support the notion that young people are using e-cigarettes and then transitioning to smoking conventional cigarettes. The report did not suggest that regular daily use had spiked in teens, but rather that the number who had ever tried one puff in the past month—which is essentially a measure of experimentation—had increased. Experimentation with a novel product like e-cigarettes is not unusual, particularly in children. The CDC report provided no evidence that young people are actually taking up this behaviour and becoming regular users of e-cigarettes. Of note, of those who experimented with e-cigarettes in 2012, 90.6% were already tobacco smokers.3 The fact that experimentation was mainly occurring in young people who already smoke cigarettes is not necessarily a bad thing, if it can reduce the chance of young people becoming lifelong cigarette smokers.

The proportion of non-smoking young people who experimented with e-cigarettes in the past month was small, at 0.5%, and thus does not prove transition to cigarette smoking. No cases of non-smoking young people beginning to use e-cigarettes, becoming addicted to nicotine, and then becoming a regular cigarette smoker, were documented. Furthermore, data from a new study confirms the conclusion of the CDC report that experimentation of e-cigarettes in non-smoking high schoool students is very low, at about 0.4%, and that none of the students adopted e-cigarettes as a regular behavior, and then went on to become a regular cigarette smoker.3 Overall, the data show that use of e-cigarettes is not popular among non-smoking young people.

Another unsupported statement is that “e-cigarettes also pose a serious danger of renormalizing smoking”. No study has supported concerns that the use of e-cigarettes in smoke-free areas might undermine smoke-free laws. Most people have no difficulty differentiating vapour from smoke. All testing of vapour so far has shown no evidence that use of e-cigarettes results in exposure to inhalable chemicals that would warrant health concerns by common safety standards.4 Therefore, there is no justification for extending existing “clean air” regulations to include e-cigarettes. Furthermore, use of e-cigarettes where smoking is prohibited might encourage smokers to make the switch to a product that could save their lives, thereby helping to denormalise (rather than renormalise) smoking by reducing the overall number of smokers. Use of e-cigarettes is a gateway out of smoking.

Nevertheless, we are in no way arguing here that regulation is not needed. Just the opposite. Regulation is necessary to ensure that e-cigarettes do not become popular among non-smoking young people and to consider restrictions about use of e-cigarettes in places frequented by very young children. Likewise, it is prudent to institute controls on marketing of e-cigarettes to non-smokers and to apply the same prohibition on sales to children and youth as for tobacco products.

As a final point, we see no need to apply the strict regulations in use for pharmaceutical products that will marginalise e-cigarettes by making them unattractive to smokers and less competitively priced compared with tobacco products. Reasonable regulation of these products should simply follow good manufacturing practice policies thus ensuring that the liquids used in e-cigarettes are produced in a quality manner, do not contain contaminants or impurities, are accurately labelled, and are held under conditions to prevent adulteration.5

Present scientific evidence supports the contention that regulators, along with public officials, health authorities, and anti-smoking groups, should embrace e-cigarettes as an important strategy in their efforts to reduce smoking and its related health effects.6 It is irresponsible to mislead the public into believing that e-cigarettes pose an extraordinary danger to consumers and young people when there is absolutely no evidence to support that claim.
 

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Well done, Polosa et al! A beautiful refutation of CDC's misleading media blitz.

I have only one small nit to pick, and it may be I'm simply not reading it correctly:

Likewise, it is prudent to institute controls on marketing of e-cigarettes to non-smokers....

I *hope* he is referring to non-smoking youth, but that isn't how I'm understanding it. Am I wrong? Or am I going to need an "I am a smoker" certificate to be able to buy ecigs? :unsure:
 

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Well done, Polosa et al! A beautiful refutation of CDC's misleading media blitz.

I have only one small nit to pick, and it may be I'm simply not reading it correctly:



I *hope* he is referring to non-smoking youth, but that isn't how I'm understanding it. Am I wrong? Or am I going to need an "I am a smoker" certificate to be able to buy ecigs? :unsure:

Good catch Ania-and I will go farther with this.

The 'powers that be' seem terrified of the notion that vaping will become a gateway-there is now growing evidence to the contrary,
The 'powers that be' are now shifting their vocabulary from 'Gateway to smoking' to 'Gateway to nicotine addiction'

We have all seen the 'shelling' from both sides of the argument

Nicotine is 'highly addictive'
Nicotine is 'not highly addictive'

Nicotine is a dangerous poison over levels measuring 'x' amount
Nicotine is a dangerous poison over levels measuring 'Y' amount

E cigarettes deliver a nicotine level 1/10th that of traditional cigarettes

Nicotine is no more addictive, poisonous, potent or cytotoxic than caffeine

It all goes round and round

When, when, when will the vaping community as a whole, along with our friendly and supportive scientists and experts start standing by our own convictions, assertions, studies, reports evidence and experiences ?.


Edited to add, this is not a question directed at you Ania, this is an open question.
 
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Well, let's see.... The ANTZs' previous "great satan," tobacco, doesn't work any more, nor does the evil "smoking," because ecigs contain and do neither. Though never verbalized, even the ANTZ seem to realize this, as evidenced by their switch from tobacco to nicotine as the great satan.

The addictability of nicotine is one of the most widely expressed, and littlest understood, concepts being bandied about these days. I cringe when even ecig supporters call nicotine "highly addictive," when that hasn't been definitively proved. Hell, even the term "addictive" has many differing definitions, depending on whom you're talking to!

I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it, among us are generations who have been indoctrinated by anti-smoking, anti-tobacco, and now anti-nicotine propaganda. Even vapers are not immune, but it behooves each of us to question our underlying beliefs and assumptions about *everything*!

/rant :going for a vape:
 

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News that would be relevant:

Is vaping a 'gateway' to smoking tobacco Y/N (cite study/studies)
Is 'Nicotine' 'Highly addictive', 'Mildly addictive', 'Not addictive' (cite study/studies)
Is 'Nicotine' a toxicant Y/N, if (Y) what level, what concentration (cite study/studies)
Is 'Nicotine' the same as, similair to, nothing at all like-'caffeine' (in relation to any of the above)-(cite studies)
 

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AgentAnia, you missed one key point in the puritanical war being fought here by this control obsessed crowd. The ANTZs' previous "great satan" was not tobacco at the beginning, it was smoking. As they pushed the agenda and the profitability of the effort became more and more evident, smoking no longer became the only talking point. The first big half lie was the extension of the war to all tobacco, thus the "this product is not a safe alternative to smoking" labels. It would have been horribly detrimental to the war chest to advertise that most smokeless products were say 95% safer than smoking or the fact that oral cancer was worse for smokers than for those using "spit tobacco", another disgusting generalization. Only some smokeless tobacco was indeed tobacco that needed spitting, a pretty visually unappealing habit by most standards.

It got so bad in Europe that they banned Swedish snus in all but Sweden now in the face of long term scientific proof that the product was 99% safe and that Sweden had the lowest rate a "smoking related" diseases that continued to drop as less and less people smoked. For some reason it couldn't be assumed that the same results would occur if the product was encouraged as a much safer alternative to smoking. That war is very discouraging when you look at how they've now redewfined the problem yet again.

Out of one side of their mouth they claim pharma nicotine is safe for long term use as the other side of their mouth doesn't know if that same nicotine is safe if not sold by the pharma industry. What does the fox say?
 

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Good News:

I created an account at the Lancet some years ago. By going directly to The Lancet's site (rather than via Science Direct) and logging in I was able to bypass the pay wall.

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanonc/article/PIIS1470-2045(13)70468-6/fulltext


Strangely, though, the Lancet also wanted $31.50 to read the letter from Polosa & Caponnetto.

Of course they want $$$ reading the letter. You wouldn't want the minority view being available to the general public.
 

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The addictability of nicotine is one of the most widely expressed, and littlest understood, concepts being bandied about these days. I cringe when even ecig supporters call nicotine "highly addictive," when that hasn't been definitively proved. Hell, even the term "addictive" has many differing definitions, depending on whom you're talking to!
They say "dependent" when they want to use a more pleasant word, usually in when speaking about caffieine addicts. So, we are all simply nicotine dependent.
 

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The addictability of nicotine is one of the most widely expressed, and littlest understood, concepts being bandied about these days. I cringe when even ecig supporters call nicotine "highly addictive," when that hasn't been definitively proved. Hell, even the term "addictive" has many differing definitions, depending on whom you're talking to!

Carl Phillips goes into this question in depth here: Does ANYONE have a valid definition of “addiction”? | Anti-THR Lies and related topics.

It's a great article and discussion, with lots of people (including me) trying to come up with a workable definition.

Can't remember if it's in that post or elsewhere, but I love his conclusion that tobacco control's view of the smoking/smoker relationship is unparalleled except in the idea of demonic possession!
 

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Can't remember if it's in that post or elsewhere, but I love his conclusion that tobacco control's view of the smoking/smoker relationship is unparalleled except in the idea of demonic possession!

It was indeed the good Doctor, in another post. For your continued reading pleasure:

Lorillard’s comments to FDA CTP re possible menthol cigarette ban, a work of art | Anti-THR Lies and related topics

....the logic requires acknowledging that people smoke because they like it, some people use menthol because they like it, people quit because they prefer to quit, and such. This runs directly contrary to the tobacco control industry’s notions of why people smoke (and why they use menthol), which is basically they are possessed by demons. I actually think that FDA is coming to grips with the fact that they cannot continue to endorse the demonic possession fiction and make defensible policy, but they are not quite ready to step up yet.

I can just see the headline when the deeming regs are published: Government to Regulate Demonic Possession!
 

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LOL. I hadn't thought of that angle.

:D

You're right, of course.

(A horse is a horse....)

:headbang:

Elaine, being the eternal cynic, as much as I hope we'll get a suitable resolution here, I still have a feeling that we are still considered white noise in their minds. They have the money, power and influence on their side. I don't view what we will get as a US specific direction. I think there's a global view of how to deal with this "problem". I'm hoping the market is unified enough to sway any over regulation, but I think we all know that the real money (BT and BEC) has a different perspective than we do about what the market should look like. I look at every day of the delay in the deeming regulation as a blessing for our side.
 
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