POTENTIAL GREATNESS: Vaping ALCOHOL

[Harry Crazington]

#2 Alcohol in the lungs can be VERY dangerous. My ex told me of her uncle, a whisky drinker, who accidentally inhaled some whisky as he was drinking it. It seriously effected his lungs, where the alcohol literally chemical burned his lungs to the point he had to have surgery and lost a good portion of his lungs. Granted, this is accidentally inhaling a mouthful of alcohol. However if you're inhaling alcohol in the form of vapor, you're not getting the same "dose", however multiple inhalations of the alcohol vapor could possibly produce the same effects. Alcohol also draws out moisture, which could potentially become dangerous if the lungs begin to "dry out"... which potentially could lead to lung tissue sticking together, or even possibly collapse.

True enough but the AWOL alcohol vaporizer website suggests you only vape 2 shots in a 24 hour period, and their ' shot ' is really only about a half shot, so you would only be vaping about one bar shot a day.
The AWOL vaporizer is already banned in several states for various reasons, mostly because your true blood alcohol content won't show up on police breathalyzers. They also claim that the recommended dose per day is equivalent to drinking about 10 bar shots on most people, depending on body size.

 

[Kit]

The AWOL vaporizer is already banned in several states for various reasons, mostly because your true blood alcohol content won't show up on police breathalyzers. They also claim that the recommended dose per day is equivalent to drinking about 10 bar shots on most people, depending on body size.

WOW harry crazy stuff dude

 

[Harry Crazington]

This is my personal and speculative opinion but inhaling alcohol will give you not only an immediate high versus drinking it but it can also cause direct brain damage. It takes large alcohol consumption ton do this over a period of time but vaping it makes it directly goes to the brain as well in a fairly short amount of time. I've heard of these AWOL devices and I believe the brain damage factor was a strong issue with them as well. Since alcohol is a blood thinner I would urge extreme caution...

Yep too much alcohol in any form of ingestion is probably not very wise.
The AWOL website also claims you won't have a hangover the next morning either. But since that vaporizer costs about $400. I think I'll stick to an occasional weekend drink or two....or three...

 

[LifeLongJoyRide]

Wow! The comments on this thread are crazy. I (and a couple hundred others forum users) have used both vodka and everclear in my diy liquids for several months now. No fireballs...no buzz...no intoxication...my brain didn't melt and pour out of my nose.
When you are cutting nic liquids with glycerin, it gets too thick. You can thin it with distilled water or grain alcohol suck as vodka...or a mixture of both. I use the alcohol because it's the only way that I've found that adds a little bit of throat hit back into the cut liquid. Our atomizers are not as powerful as you might think and DON'T get hot enough to ignite the alcohol.
I have a feeling that a lot of people will chime in on this thread to back me up...unless they have all burned up in flames

 

[Rexa]

True LifeLong, I guess the way it was worded though with the links makes it sound different though. It's not about throat hits and cutting liquid with some alcy to make it a bit thinner but more in reference to acquiring a high completely off of it (which then lead to AWOL discussion since that was mentioned too).

 

[Harry Crazington]

Our atomizers are not as powerful as you might think and DON'T get hot enough to ignite the alcohol.
I have a feeling that a lot of people will chime in on this thread to back me up...unless they have all burned up in flames

Hmmmm...on second thought...don't try it at home !!!!!....MEDIC !!!

 

[kinabaloo]

As it happens, was vaping alcohol this evening as part of an experiment. Really!

Didn't notice any ill effects despite heavy vaping for 1/2 hour or so. The alcohol is virtually unnoticeable in every way.

The reason it is preferred to water as a way of making a juice a bit thinner so it wicks better is that it doesnot diminish the fog volume the way that water does. Only a tiny amount of alcohol is needed to give a thinning effect to juice - probably 5% (1 part in 20) is enough for this purpose. It's far less than one would imagine - the juice thins very quickly (even with water, though less so).

 

[Zendruid]

Originally Posted by Zendruid
No kidding! Alcohol enemas are extremely dangerous and CAN kill you. When you drink it, you don't absorb all the alcohol into your system. When you... ahem... well, do it the other way, there is no barrier and you quickly absorb ALL (or most) the alcohol directly into your bloodstream. Extremely easy to poison yourself to death in this manner. About 20 or 30 years ago a man died in this very manner, one town over from mine.

I don't mean to be disrespectful to the dead but that's a real bummer way to bite the dust. 8-o

I actually found out about the guy a town over from mine on Spike's "1,000 Ways To Die" tv show. I have to admit, it's an interesting show, but the way it's presented is incredibly disrespectful.

BTW, my earlier "BE CAREFUL" rant was more about attempting to find alternate ways to get drunk. Some juices have a small amount of alcohol in them. As a healer, something in me screamed to issue some cautions, so I couldn't resist. At least the voices in my head are friendly!

 

[GreySaber]

I actually found out about the guy a town over from mine on Spike's "1,000 Ways To Die" tv show. I have to admit, it's an interesting show, but the way it's presented is incredibly disrespectful.

Heh. Remember the guy who tried to get drunk by drinking gasoline... then puked on his campfire?

Or the guy who blew himself up with an industrial air pump because he ignored filling a tire while .........ing?

 

[Zendruid]

LOL! I must've missed the .........ion-air-pump segment.

 

[Vapinginjapan]

My guess would be that they use a piezo or ultrasonic atomizer to get the alcohol into your system.

A no heat method would be the obvious no brainer here.

 

[shakey ceasefire]

My guess would be that they use a piezo or ultrasonic atomizer to get the alcohol into your system.

A no heat method would be the obvious no brainer here.

you mean, like, drinking a beer?

 

[Vapinginjapan]

I suppose, but usually beer is only vaporized when you spew it out of your mouth when somebody says something absurd, or you start choking on your throat hit.

 

[thatguyjeff]

Well... couple things to consider...

Every time anyone (this is FACT, by the way) consumes any alcohol, there is alcohol vapor in your lungs. Every. Single. Time.

You drink. Alcohol enters the bloodstream. Blood goes through the lungs where oxygen is exchanged for carbon dioxide. The alcohol in the blood is also in that CO2 that you exhale. Once alcohol is in your system - no matter how it got there in the first place - you exhale alcohol vapor with every breath.

This is how breathalyzers work. And this is why it is impossible to beat a breathalyzer test, even when you're taking alcohol rectally.

So the risk isn't so much that there is alcohol in your lungs. Anyone who drinks is doing that already... and for that person who got ill from alcohol in the lungs - that was because it was liquid, not alcohol. Big difference between having a vapor/gas in your lungs vs. a liquid or solid.

Anyway, the big risk to me is you have no idea how much alcohol is entering your system when vaping the booze. Everyone knows liquid ingested alcohol amounts. 12 oz. beer = 5-6 oz. wine = 1.5 oz of 40 proof liquor... yada yada,,,

But if vaping it (when the intent of actually consuming the alcohol - not just by using some alcohol as a juice thinner or what have you), who knows how much you're getting?

And yeah, the flammability issue could cause problems too.

 

[thatguyjeff]

Oh and I suppose I'll add this as well...

With a little reasearch and some math - one could figure out the precise volume of alcohol (either pure alcohol or using additional math to determine say, 80 proof or something) in the bloodstream to feel the effect.

We'll use a BAC of .10% as the baseline (used to be the legal driving limit in the US and is a nice round number). A BAC of .10% means that all you need to do is multiply your total blood volume by .001. The average size adult has approximately 5 Liters of blood (or about 10 pints). 5 L (5,000 ml) x .001 = 5.000 ml

Theoretically - the average size adult could inject 5 ml of pure alcohol into their bloodstream to acheive a BAC of .10%. (Please don't anyone try injecting alcohol now.)

SO...
You would have to vape NO LESS than 5 ml of 100% alcohol in a relatively short amount of time in order to get to BAC .10%. And that's ONLY ASSUMING that you are absorbing 100% of the alcohol you're inhaling. How much alcohol would actually be absorbed by the lungs is likely less than 100% - meaning you would have to vape more than 5 ml to get to BAC .10%

How much is in the average size cart, 1 ml? Less than 1 ml? That's five full carts (minimum) chain vaping of pure alcohol, and then MAYBE you would get a buzz.

That is, unless my math is faulty. Check it if you like. This is only a theory - don't try this at home people.

 

[nitewriter]

If you're interested in vaping alcohol, check this out! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/17148-vape-bar-vape-your-spirits.html

 

[GreySaber]

If you're interested in vaping alcohol, check this out! http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/17148-vape-bar-vape-your-spirits.html

Interisting. Seems you have to breath for 40 minutes to get 'one cocktail' of buzz.

 

[Thornak]

maybe mix high proof alcohol with a little pg so its less explosive.

 

[llcoolbeans]

Jeez. Relax folks. Is this not the same kind of sensationalism and jumping to conclusions that the opposition uses to try and ban PVs.

Ethanol vapors are not explosive like gasoline vapors. Ethanol will burn for sure, but it is not explosive. Some of you make it sound as if we are talking about vaping nitroglycerin.

I've read that adding a few drops of ethanol to your e-liquid helps you to get a throat hit when using nic-free juice. People have been doing this for a long time and no one is exploding.

 

[bombastinator]

for the record I tried it. I got some 190 proof ever clear and dripped it. Worked fine. No fireball or anything. In fact it seemed to cool te vaporizer quite a bit. Sorta tasty really. It did seem to suck all the flavor out of the eliquid though.