Rebel without a cig - vaping myths.
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There is definitely more to it, but, I don't think anyone wants to read pages of explaination, lol.
One example is the process of which our body takes in the nicotine. Which completely differs from e-liquid compared to a cigarette. But, none the less, saying that nicotine isn't addictive is irresponsible and is a detriment to our cause. If someone advertised nicotine as being non-addictive, specifically towards younger people (e-cigs already gets enough heat for the flavors it uses!), then it could cause problems for our community because then we would have a bunch of addicted youngsters and the blame would fall to the false pre-tense that nicotine is not addictive through the use of an e-cig. And what happens to the e-cig after that? I don't even want to know.
Good points. I don't want to give stillalive too much crap. If you think about it, would you rather that he/she get addicted to tobacco then switch to vaping so as to be "vaping-acceptable"? No, of course not. OTOH... The comment about nicotine not being addictive is probably incorrect, as you point out. I think that cigs are MORE addictive than vaping, but addiction is addiction and I don't want anyone to get the idea that it's OK to vape because they believe that its 100% safe or 100% not addictive. Thanks again for the insights.
Never was that my intention!!! I like stillalive, she's awesome!
I am merely adding my viewpoint to the converation, which falls on a topic that I am passionate about
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...905-vaping-myths-we-exhaling-water-vapor.html
Conclusion: We exhale a propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerine based fog or mist.
Conclusion: We exhale a propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerine based fog or mist.
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I think the myth is that nicotine is SUPER addictive, when in reality is it probably not anywhere near as addictive as most people think.
That is not to say that it is not addictive at all though.
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That is not to say that it is not addictive at all though.
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
How about: Dry burning will reduce the lifespan of your atomizer coil?
I see this being said all the time by people who are against dry burning.
I have no freaking idea if it is true or not.
But as far as I'm concerned you WILL get a lot more life out of your coil if you dry burn it than if you don't.
So in my opinion, if it shortens the life any, that amount is negligible compared to the extended life gained from dry burning.
I see this being said all the time by people who are against dry burning.
I have no freaking idea if it is true or not.
But as far as I'm concerned you WILL get a lot more life out of your coil if you dry burn it than if you don't.
So in my opinion, if it shortens the life any, that amount is negligible compared to the extended life gained from dry burning.
Re: Dry burns. IDK. I think dry burning is necessary in some instances, but is hard on the coil. So I'm not sure it's a myth or not. I look at it like prioritized cleaning:
1) Blow out
2) Water
3) ISO
4) Dry burn.
Stop when it works, don't go to the next step. So... how often do you really need to dry burn anyway? Depends on the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/197997-niquid.html (e-juice). But the more you have to, the shorter your atty life IMO. The alternative is, as you say, a non-working atty. Plus, some atties are more robust than others, so I think it varies. 2 cents.
1) Blow out
2) Water
3) ISO
4) Dry burn.
Stop when it works, don't go to the next step. So... how often do you really need to dry burn anyway? Depends on the http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/197997-niquid.html (e-juice). But the more you have to, the shorter your atty life IMO. The alternative is, as you say, a non-working atty. Plus, some atties are more robust than others, so I think it varies. 2 cents.
Vaping myth: Vaping anything above 24mg is dangerous.
Fact: Lot of people vape nicotine levels above 24mg with no ill effects. It's not for everybody, but it really helps some folks who are trying to quit and just can't seem to put down the cigarettes.
Fact: Lot of people vape nicotine levels above 24mg with no ill effects. It's not for everybody, but it really helps some folks who are trying to quit and just can't seem to put down the cigarettes.
Corollary Myth: Vaping high level juice will make you more addicted to nicotine.
Fact: You're ALREADY very addicted to nicotine,
or quitting is as simple as not buying any more smokes.
Good point. I max out at 24, but some don't. I don't suggest over 24 mg, but hey... who am I? Those that need it seem to know who they are. I think it depends on vaping style too. It's changing for me, but historically I've been a "sit-n-vape then go" kind of vaper. Vape for 15 min, go away for an hour or two, repeat. Higher nic for that. If I do a "vape at the computer" style....(more and more lately) then I use lower nic. I used to vape only outside too. Anyway, needed the nic hit that way.
Also (kind of related).... Some vendors won't sell 48 mg liquid. I use 48 and cut it in 1/2 for my DIY. If they top out at 36..... they usually lose a sale... although I have purchased 36 mg flavored for DIY mixing... it makes me think too much 'cuz now the ratios are off.
Great thread. Lots of good reading in here. I enjoyed your post very much Levitas. As someone who has dealt with depression for most of my adult life you made a lot of sense to me. Thanks for that =D
Same here in (almost) every way! I'm moving back up to 24mg because for some odd reason, I'm having cravings again. 24mg keeps those at bay. I've never had the need to go above that, but I don't discourage folks from giving it a go when 24mg isn't doing it for them.
heh, I meant to say that nicotine in ecigs doesn't seem to be *terribly* addictive. whoops. In clinical studies, nicotine alone seems to be just barely addictive if that... not too different from caffeine. I've been vaping almost 2 months, fairly heavily, and I still completely forget to vape. In fact, when was the last time I vaped? Lol. Maybe 24-30 hours ago? I've been vaping 9-12mg the past couple of weeks and still can't seemed to get hooked, even a little-- I honestly really wish I could remember to vape, since it does so much good for my many health problems, but alas I forget about it all the time.
So yeah, for us non-tobacco-users (and the non-tobacco-using rats), nicotine definitely doesn't seem to be very addicting at all. Age is definitely a big factor in the addiction, too... tobacco use is a definite "gateway drug" for teens, since it rewires their brain much more than adults, and can make drugs like heroine, ...., etc. a lot more rewarding for them.
I've been vaping 9-12mg the past couple of weeks and still can't seemed to get hooked, even a little-- I honestly really wish I could remember to vape, since it does so much good for my many health problems, but alas I forget about it all the time.So yeah, for us non-tobacco-users (and the non-tobacco-using rats), nicotine definitely doesn't seem to be very addicting at all. Age is definitely a big factor in the addiction, too... tobacco use is a definite "gateway drug" for teens, since it rewires their brain much more than adults, and can make drugs like heroine, ...., etc. a lot more rewarding for them.
I dont agree with everything stated, but most hit on the mark.
I would hate to be out on the road with my family when we get side swiped by a guy trying to drip. Just saying.
On the other hand I have been one to drip at red lights before I got a bottom feeder.
It's weird how hoping the red light is longer automatically makes them turn green.
I would hate to be out on the road with my family when we get side swiped by a guy trying to drip. Just saying.
On the other hand I have been one to drip at red lights before I got a bottom feeder.
It's weird how hoping the red light is longer automatically makes them turn green.
I've been vaping almost 2 months, fairly heavily, and I still completely forget to vape. In fact, when was the last time I vaped? Lol. Maybe 24-30 hours ago?
No doubt, cigarettes are what, most of us who vape, got us terribly addicted in this first place. Just imagine yourselves, how often do you personally, no matter how long without a cigarette, think of one? To be utterly honest with myself, and you fine people, I would be lying if I didn't say that occasionally I still think of cigarettes and smoking. Though, I am firm in my resolve, and vaping is my 'crutch' or 'shoulder' to lean on, so to speak.
I could go into why nicotine in cigarettes is far more addicting rather than vaping, but, most of us, if not all, already know that.
I wonder, even if you've never used tobacco, that you're one of those rare folk that can use nicotine sparingly with seemingly little to no hinderance. There is (around 10%? don't quote me
) that can smoke cigarettes one day, and forget about them for weeks without a second thought. Those, (maybe yourself), would be the minority, and I envy them!Edit: Sorry for the off-railing
Another contribution, on topic.
Vaping will cause you to relapse
Fact: Tell that to those who've spent hundreds of dollars on NRT that did not work and haven't had ONE cigarette since they started to vape.
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it is completely possible I'm "immune" to the pull of nicotine... I've never been honestly addicted to anything in my life, despite taking heavy pain meds regularly for several years. The closest I came was drinking a lot of alcohol right after I turned 21 (I waited to drink till I was legal), and it did help a lot with my depression, so I was worried I was drinking a little too much... but then I stopped drinking one day and just didn't think about it for a few months, lol. Now that I vape, I have almost no desire to drink at all. Hmm. As I said, I wish I at least had an urge to vape on a regular basis, just like I have urges to brush my teeth, eat, and do other stuff that's good for me. Oh well.
I can definitely say that the other non-smokers-turned-vapers who experimented with nicotine had a similarly hard time getting addicted, though. As did the non-tobacco-using rats in the clinical studies.
I can definitely say that the other non-smokers-turned-vapers who experimented with nicotine had a similarly hard time getting addicted, though. As did the non-tobacco-using rats in the clinical studies.
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