Pre-mixing Flavours and then Using as a Single Mix?

[FrankRice]

Hey guys,

I found a recipe that advises the user to pre-mix flavours and then use as a single flavour percentage when you're ready to calculate nicotine, PG and VG.

My question is, how long should you let your pre-mixed flavours steep, in order for it to blend well?

Thanks a lot guys.

 

[BrotherBob]

When the last ingredient goes into a mix, my steep clock starts.

I found a recipe that advises the user to pre-mix flavours and then use as a single flavour percentage

The mix is sometime called a stone. Example:if it is a combo of vanilla,custard and whatever, some folks call it a custardstone at ?% . Since the stone requires blending with other ingredients, I treat the whole mix as a single flavor and steep it in a normal manner as the total mix dictates.

 

[dannyv45]

No need to steep mixed together flavorings. Just steep the entire mixed juice after all ingredients have been added (VG,PG,NIC,Flavoring).

 

[FrankRice]

Thank you very much for your replies guys!

Yeah, I figured it might not need a steep since my flavours are all PG based, as opposed to a freshly made, completed juice, which has different density layers of nicotine, PG and VG. Is that a fair assumption?

 

[Adam harris]

Weather the flavors are mixed together or not it still would be the same in the end.
The VG imo is the main culprit in the steeping process.

I understand where your at on the mixing of flavors to try and achieve something better and it does make sense.

Kind of like a pre mix of drink powder vs already mixed and bottled drink.

It taste the same.

 

[mcclintock]

I've also thought about making a mix overstrong so it can them be bottled to taste, for example diff. amounts of nicotine, tweaks of PG/VG ratio. Kind of the other way around from what I see a local shop doing, they have big bottles of juice and small bottles of extra flavor they can add to it.

I noticed the Flavor Art site talks about mixing the flavors alone by smell. You would presumably then have to measure out a portion of the result to actually use, since you wouldn't know how much you're making in advance.

Another thing I wonder about is if it's any different to let single flavor mixes steep seperately, and then remix them into a complex flavor. It might be most different right after that mix, when the flavors are strong from the steep and yet haven't steeped in terms of "melding" together. I usually do this first and best I can tell, if I try to re-create the result by the normal all together method, sometimes it fails, but could be many reasons. It also might avoid a sort of "medicine-y" stage in the steeping process which might normally be expected to go away, but wouldn't it be better to never occur in the first place?

 

[Adam harris]

Basically an over potent juice is just going to be bad even if it is diluted.

Now on the other hand you can create a mix with reasonable percents and let it steep for a month and after that dilute it with vg/pg

 

[FrankRice]

Hey guys,

Back on this thread with a related question.

Let's say you have a recipe that has quite a high flavour percentage. Almost to 30 percent. I've read that this will make steeping quite difficult and flavours can even be muted when percentages are that high.

Will a 20 percent pre-mix single flavour version taste just as good or even better, after a period of time, because of easier blending and steeping? Will the 20 percent also help to avoid muting?

Thanks.