Precise ELA Telescoping MOD by Super-T Manufacturing PT 2

[Cucco]

Dont ever speak to me again. I am very fragile.

That was good!

 

[anavidfan]

We can be fragile together

 

[theECB]

Very excited for the new switch. And the 22mm non-slotted top cap. And the solid tube. Hoping the new switch will be made in the classic version 1 design.


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[Aal_]

Guys,

Sorry for asking a stupidly vague question, I think. Well I have an ELA that I bought from Supert in December 2012, received in sometime in February as I recall of 2013. Since then I haven't looked at the development of the ELA or what is new in the cooking (secretly because the shipping was too high and I didn't figure to buy from superT again because of that ). The ELA is a great device, and all the talk about the V2 is interesting. But I need to know 2-3 things, if you can answer or link me I would really appreciate it:

1- Has anything changed in the ELA V1 since the Feb 2013 batch I have?
2- What are the differences between the new ELA V2 and the one I have?
3- Are there any compatible/extension parts that were released after Feb 2013 that I can buy for my V1?

Sorry for probably asking questions that were answered before. Thanks.

 

[vNistelrooy]

Guys,

Sorry for asking a stupidly vague question, I think. Well I have an ELA that I bought from Supert in December 2012, received in sometime in February as I recall of 2013. Since then I haven't looked at the development of the ELA or what is new in the cooking (secretly because the shipping was too high and I didn't figure to buy from superT again because of that ). The ELA is a great device, and all the talk about the V2 is interesting. But I need to know 2-3 things, if you can answer or link me I would really appreciate it:

1- Has anything changed in the ELA V1 since the Feb 2013 batch I have?
2- What are the differences between the new ELA V2 and the one I have?
3- Are there any compatible/extension parts that were released after Feb 2013 that I can buy for my V1?

Sorry for probably asking questions that were answered before. Thanks.

Search specifically for David's post. He highlighted all the major differences. For a quick check,just head to their website. U can see in the ela page parts that are not compatible with v1,thats a quick answer for u


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[jkim5708]

Just a heads up. Ela v2 in stock. Even though it says it's not. Go go go!

 

[forcedfuel50]

The clones have arrived David. Rally your legal team, these guys are even using your trademark P. Feel free to delete this post if you see fit but thought you'd want to know.

Thanks for the heads up, we found them the other day and they have been addressed. There were 4 and two have already been removed.

 

[Riverboat]

Just a heads up. Ela v2 in stock. Even though it says it's not. Go go go!

Now is you chance:
Product: Precise ELA Telescoping Mod
In stock: 3

 

[forcedfuel50]

Guys,

Sorry for asking a stupidly vague question, I think. Well I have an ELA that I bought from Supert in December 2012, received in sometime in February as I recall of 2013. Since then I haven't looked at the development of the ELA or what is new in the cooking (secretly because the shipping was too high and I didn't figure to buy from superT again because of that ). The ELA is a great device, and all the talk about the V2 is interesting. But I need to know 2-3 things, if you can answer or link me I would really appreciate it:

1- Has anything changed in the ELA V1 since the Feb 2013 batch I have?
2- What are the differences between the new ELA V2 and the one I have?
3- Are there any compatible/extension parts that were released after Feb 2013 that I can buy for my V1?

Sorry for probably asking questions that were answered before. Thanks.

1 Yes, the button, body, and extension tube locking mechanism have all changed and are not interchangeable. Extension tubes, accent rigns (both top and bottom), all top cap types and top and bottom electrical contacts are all interchangeable between V1 and V2.
2. Button is bigger in diameter and better matches the scale of the device. The locking mechanism is wider and easier to lock. The botton is now flush with the bottom cap the bottom cap altered to have more flat surface so it stands up great now on end, yet still stays true to the look of the ELA. The extension tube clamping mechanism has been improved to provide even better clamping force on the extension tube and improve electrical conductivity.
3. Bottom flat caps for us with the OE locking button (should have some more made up this coming week), Top caps (slant and regular), accent rings and replacement posts, all scheduled to be made available shortly.

 

[forcedfuel50]

I personally have not a dog in the fight. Those who can do something, will simply just do it. Not make threats, especially with pending statuses.

This is her also. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/members/66755/countrycarol.html She got banned a few years ago. Hence why they call her CC, she went by Country Carolyn on the forums, and her real name is Carolyn Carter.

Oh But you DO have a dog in the hunt as you, Freckle, are the one and only Carolyn Carter, and were doing the group buy. A little ECF computer IP network work and order tracking revealed your dishonesty. I questioned why you knew so much information about it and were so aggressively pursuing defending her (yourself) group buy. FYI, the Precise/Vapemate Patent came through (US Patent 8,757,169) and is now up on the USPTO site, complete with 16 pages of diagrams and we'll also provide the Registration numbers when our trademarks convert to registered trademarks: Patent Images

 

[Cucco]

Oh But you DO have a dog in the hunt as you, Freckle, are the one and only Carolyn Carter, and were doing the group buy. A little ECF computer IP network work and order tracking revealed your dishonesty. I questioned why you knew so much information about it and were so aggressively pursuing defending her (yourself). FYI, the Precise/Vapemate Patent came through (US Patent 8,757,169) and is now up on the USPTO site, complete with 16 pages of diagrams and we'll also provide the Registration numbers when our trademarks convert to registered trademarks: Patent Images

Wow.... That is sad....

 

[vaptamist]

Hah, I knew it.

 

[Riverboat]

Button is bigger in diameter and better matches the scale of the device. The locking mechanism is wider and easier to lock. The botton is now flush with the bottom cap the bottom cap altered to have more flat surface so it stands up great now on end, yet still stays true to the look of the ELA. The extension tube clamping mechanism has been improved to provide even better clamping force on the extension tube and improve electrical conductivity.

You are really going to make me order one, aren't you....

 

[forcedfuel50]

She wrote a post about her reasoning about modders charging to much, but if I'm correct David didn't make a killing off the ELA if anything he lost money because labor in the US ain't cheap. She had now ...... of the very wrong person. I will do everything in my power to see her shut down for good.

This is the single most common reason I hear for justifying clones, that somehow, US manufacturers are getting rich and fleecing the customers. I'm sorry, if those days ever existed, they never did for Super-T. On some products, we've even lost money (most notably the Shockwave where we paid more to have the parts machined then we charged for them!). Gone are the days of making things in the garage. We now have shop rent, employees(like a CNC drafter, CNC machinist/programmer, assembler, accountant etc), benefits, CNC machines, multiple other metal finishing and working machines, raw materials, supplies, tooling, heat, electricity, 4 insurance policies (liability, workmans comp, unemployment and theft/fire/damage) and the list goes on and on.

 

[Aal_]

This is the single most common reason I hear for justifying clones, that somehow, US manufacturers are getting rich and fleecing the customers. I'm sorry, if those days ever existed, they never did for Super-T. On some products, we've even lost money (most notably the Shockwave where we paid more to have the parts machined then we charged for them!). Gone are the days of making things in the garage. We now have shop rent, employees(like a CNC drafter, CNC machinist/programmer, assembler, accountant etc), benefits, CNC machines, multiple other metal finishing and working machines, heat, electricity, 4 insurance policies (liability, workmans comp, unemployment and theft/fire/damage) and the list goes on and on.

If anything I wonder how you are still able to compete in this market. Indirect costs are not to be underestimated!

 

[forcedfuel50]

Bottom line, no ones getting rich here, but by supporting US companies such as Super-T and not sending your dollars off to China, you are supporting many families not only here at Super-T, but across the USA.

 

[vaptamist]

It's not like there is some sort of vaping manufacturers illuminati organization that conspires to artificially put a bottom price cap on mods. Which is what it would take to keep vendors and manufacturers from driving their prices down through competition. Someone, somewhere will always try to increase their market share and sales volume by having the lowest prices.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Thanks for the heads up, we found them the other day and they have been addressed. There were 4 and two have already been removed.

Good for you. Assuming a 50% mark up I can't imagine anyone risking a lawsuit for $25 profit per unit.

 

[LadyMaMa]

I think that it's unfortunate and sad that there is a necessity for legal protection of intellectual property at all. It's expensive as well as time-consuming, and the cost in most cases is passed on to the consumer. Unfortunately, the reality is that we live in a world where too many lack a moral compass. Copiers exist and thrive where respect for the intellectual property and hard work of others is absent, and reason and sound judgement is ignored.

 

[snork]

I've spent the last month disproving to myself each and every rationalization used by the clone camp. Not that I had to, I already knew. But I did it anyway just to give it a fair shot.
Later I'll enumerate them.