agree,, the tax portion should go directly to the healthcare bill not to other programs.
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Not exactly what I had in mind, but good point.
I just can't help it, isn't taxing bad food the same thinking as taxing smokers and vapers? I have a problem with this mindset, abusing the tax code to enforce ones will upon a segment of the population. This thinking in and of itself is inherently just wrong
no, because we are not taxing to just be taxing,, the goal here is to finance in part the medical/healthcare costs of consuming these items.I just can't help it, isn't taxing bad food the same thinking as taxing smokers and vapers? I have a problem with this mindset, abusing the tax code to enforce ones will upon a segment of the population. This thinking in and of itself is inherently just wrong
i dont have a problem with (reasonably) taxing vape items if the funds are to be used to pay for someone else with lung cancer . as time goes on the hope is few people smoking and even fewer people getting lung cancer from smoking......when we get to that intersection we would hopefully use those tax funds to finance other HEALTH issues not 'education'/politicians traveling
Yeah that was the argument I was going to make. Since we don't let people just drop dead in this country, the health costs are a burden we all bear.
You have no problem with that, even though vaping doesn't contribute to lung cancer, and in reality could be an effective means of preventing it?
Weren't you against the ACA because it imposes costs(individual mandate) on some to pay for the care of others(pre-existing conditions)?
Yeah, I would definitely not lump vaping into that. That would just play into the "vaping is just as bad" mentality.
Maybe some day we will be able to genetically screen every citizen, and tax those whose genetic sequences show a possibility of increased healthcare costs.
most people who vape were once smokers,,,,,,there are smokers who will never stop, who have smoking related health costs....like it or not we will pay for that one way or the other as a general population. but,,,,,if the vaping community is paying a special tax just for that impact i am fine with that. why? because what if we (the vaping community) had not switched over to vaping,,, we would be creating the healthcare cost impact.
same logic on junk food,, it leads to poor health if over consumed,,, obesity, high bp, diabetes...........if a tax on coke/pepsi/whatever were applied,,, then those who choose to consume these products can finance the healthcare costs of others who decided the same. ie,, my husband is thin,, but he drinks a lot of pepsi,, diabetes runs in his family.........he may or may not get diabetes someday,,,,,but he should pay a 'tax/healthcare impact' fee for consuming. meantime all of his sisters who also consume pepsi are all very obese and diabetic.(and they should pay to consume also) meantime,, the taxpayer is paying for their conditions via meds/healthcare costs.
Some want government to tell me what is healthy 
by influencing my buying decisions by Food Taxes?
P l e a s e --- margarine was considered very healthy when I grew up. The food pyramid has always been a disaster. The list doesn't end.
Taxation is not the answer -- nor are more controlling laws.
by influencing my buying decisions by Food Taxes? P l e a s e --- margarine was considered very healthy when I grew up. The food pyramid has always been a disaster. The list doesn't end.
Taxation is not the answer -- nor are more controlling laws.
Hey now there's an Idea. We could even take it Further.
Like Higher Auto Insurance Rates based on a Genetic Propensity towards Alcoholism? Or maybe an Educational Sur Tax on children tested with below 90 I.Q's ?
i am against aca because the plans i was offered were too expensive equating to a major tax. with my income i didn't qualify for discounts. i am not the only one,, the healthcare companies ran amuck with their quotes,,,,,,,it would have been more productive just to declare universal coverage and cut the war machine or other areas.
Just making a ridiculous argument. I don't agree with sin taxes, I see them as a tool of the elite to subjugate their subservient populace.
i am more than happy to listen to others ideas on how to finance a fair healthcare system that doesnt over burden 1 group to pay for another group.
all the mocking in the world isn't a viable plan
all the mocking in the world isn't a viable plan
then tell us your healthcare plan........open to ideas, and your ideas dont have to be perfect.
Get rid of health insurance altogether. Subject it to the laws of supply and demand like anything else and watch the costs plummet and quality skyrocket. Just like any other product or service. Look at lasiks, cosmetic surgery, or veterinarian care as an example. Insurance plays little/no role in those medical areas and the price and quality of those are extremely favorable.
growing up on a farm i always thought vets got paid more because they handle the food supply......but recently i had to put my long time baby girl down.......while i sat in a private room i saw a sign on the wall that took it further:
The best doctor in the world is the veterinarian. He can't ask his patients what is the matter-he's got to just know.
Will Rogers
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