So I thought provari was the way I wanted to go, but now I'm thinking I usually only vape around 3.7-4.0 so maybe just a solid 3.7 mod would work for me. I have a lava mini vers2 clone and I think the only reason I even adjust the volt is to compensate for the fluctuation of the output from this (crappy) little mod. I have ICR batts that came with it and the thing is not recognizing any of my cartos any more (aka reading 9.9ohm on anything I screw in). They are both in my price range so Reo what do you think.
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So are you considering a REO BF mod.
If your interested in a BF mod REO is top quality and can not be beet IMO.
REO is coming out with a VV BF mod on the 9th of September is your still interested in VV if not a Supper mine uses an 18490 Nice little pocket Mod with a 3ml bottle but the punch of the Larger REO Grand that has a 6ml bottle and uses a 18650.
I nave a Provari and love it for dripping at the desk from time to time. (Nice mod and well worth the $)
I use a Grand and a VV Grand as my go to PV's
For more info on the REO drop by the REO forum and ask any questions you may have.
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If your interested in a BF mod REO is top quality and can not be beet IMO.
REO is coming out with a VV BF mod on the 9th of September is your still interested in VV if not a Supper mine uses an 18490 Nice little pocket Mod with a 3ml bottle but the punch of the Larger REO Grand that has a 6ml bottle and uses a 18650.
I nave a Provari and love it for dripping at the desk from time to time. (Nice mod and well worth the $)
I use a Grand and a VV Grand as my go to PV's
For more info on the REO drop by the REO forum and ask any questions you may have.
Reos Mods
I use both daily. Sometimes one more than the other. If someone asked me to choose, I would pick my REO. It has been my trusty sidekick for a year now..an old friend.
Provari- I love to play around with tanks, and finding my sweet spot. I like checking my battery and checking my ohms on my atties.
REO- fiddle free. I fill the bottle, slap my battery in and I am good for the entire day.
Both are good lookin, durable, and backed by great customer service.
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Provari- I love to play around with tanks, and finding my sweet spot. I like checking my battery and checking my ohms on my atties.
REO- fiddle free. I fill the bottle, slap my battery in and I am good for the entire day.
Both are good lookin, durable, and backed by great customer service.
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The Metal REO's is all he has in stock right now. He only builds wood more a few times a year. There very time consuming.
The button top for the Metal mods is a good ad on. Makes the button a tad easier for some people.
http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?p...&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9
The button top for the Metal mods is a good ad on. Makes the button a tad easier for some people.
http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?p...&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9
I haven't had the time to research kick yet so I don't know what "kick for consistent vape" means.
Are mods not consistent w/o a "kick"?
The kick would let you have a veritable wattage, as well as regulate the voltage. A reo like the bolt is unregulated (unless you get the VV), meaning fresh off the charger the battery will be around 4.2 and through the vaping time will drop to around 3.3 or so, holding the longest at 3.7. The kick would let you set the wattage and you will always get that wattage.
I've got a provari V2 and a reo mini 18490 (also runs 18500's). You can kick the grand and I've read of others being able to kick the mini 18490 as well. I'm somewhat of a lazy vaper so a kick just isn't for me. With that being said, they both are great mods and both are top notch as far as design and workmanship. The provari will always be my go to though because of the consistent vape throughout the life of the batt. The reos mini is fantastic too, but I'm not all that stoked with the switch location on the box mod compared to tube locations. I have added the switch cap mod on the reos but didn't like the fact that when I would fire it I would occasionally move the switch at times just enough to where it would lock. That and the vapor drop at the lower end of the charge on the 3.7s keeps me loving my V2.
The three I love the most for now would be #1 the Provari V2 and then it's a toss up between two of my bottom feeders, the reos mini 18490 and my beautiful boggers mini.
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The three I love the most for now would be #1 the Provari V2 and then it's a toss up between two of my bottom feeders, the reos mini 18490 and my beautiful boggers mini.
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I'll be going with a VV Grand. Rob is set to produce up to 1000 of them. First batch coming out 9/9, another couple hundred due a few weeks later.
VV Grand has the notcigs VV controller (well tested, consistent, output -- it's used in the Notcigs Buzz and Infinity Pro, their VVPV, and the VV Woodvil) coupled with REOS' tried-and-true Grand feeder. An excellent matchup
I've had notcigs original infinity, two buzz pros (second is just for backup, very good price point), and vvpv. VV Grand will have higher eliquid capacity and a bit better run time than VVPV between battery swaps, though the top-feed VVPV is top notch for flavor
I've tried a non-regulated feeder, a beautiful wooden RSM Mark 9. It's a gorgeous product, works well, excellent run time, but I've become very much spoiled by the consistency of a good VV (I use the RSM with big 18650 batteries, but there is still that taper in output).
I'd suggest looking at the VV Grand rather than a non-regulated REO plus a Kick, at least if you want runtime to match eliquid.
The reason a Kick was suggested, I expect, is that the base REO Grand or Woodvil, the non VV, is not regulated -- output power will vary over time, as the battery discharges. If you want even a little over 3.7V (other than first few puffs off an unregulated fully charged battery), a regulated unit is what you need. Likewise if you want the output to stay consistent, you need regulated. The notcigs-based products, the Provari, and PV with a Kick added all get you to a well regulated output.
You're looking at some good products, none of the choices are bad. If a tube PV with tank is a valid option (should be if you're considering Provari), you might want to also check the Buzz Pro. It runs about $125 total with two sets of batteries and charger, after taking the "ECF Buzzkill" discount, is a very good, durable, unit.
VV Grand has the notcigs VV controller (well tested, consistent, output -- it's used in the Notcigs Buzz and Infinity Pro, their VVPV, and the VV Woodvil) coupled with REOS' tried-and-true Grand feeder. An excellent matchup
I've had notcigs original infinity, two buzz pros (second is just for backup, very good price point), and vvpv. VV Grand will have higher eliquid capacity and a bit better run time than VVPV between battery swaps, though the top-feed VVPV is top notch for flavor
I've tried a non-regulated feeder, a beautiful wooden RSM Mark 9. It's a gorgeous product, works well, excellent run time, but I've become very much spoiled by the consistency of a good VV (I use the RSM with big 18650 batteries, but there is still that taper in output).
I'd suggest looking at the VV Grand rather than a non-regulated REO plus a Kick, at least if you want runtime to match eliquid.
The reason a Kick was suggested, I expect, is that the base REO Grand or Woodvil, the non VV, is not regulated -- output power will vary over time, as the battery discharges. If you want even a little over 3.7V (other than first few puffs off an unregulated fully charged battery), a regulated unit is what you need. Likewise if you want the output to stay consistent, you need regulated. The notcigs-based products, the Provari, and PV with a Kick added all get you to a well regulated output.
You're looking at some good products, none of the choices are bad. If a tube PV with tank is a valid option (should be if you're considering Provari), you might want to also check the Buzz Pro. It runs about $125 total with two sets of batteries and charger, after taking the "ECF Buzzkill" discount, is a very good, durable, unit.
They're both great. I have them both as my go to pieces. The provari would be my recommendation to you if you are unsure that you want a bottomfeeder - at which point I would also suggest getting a cheapie bottomfeeder to get the experience and see if that's the way you want to go. If you're in it for the long haul, and if you're not afraid to spend money from time to time you will probably end up with each. So at that point the real question is what do you want now? Provari offers more options - dripping, tank/cartomizer, of course variable voltage. Reo offers you essentially dripping quality flavor you can drive with, if you drive.
Is the regulated battery not enough for consistent vape? I looked at the buzz but I'm not sure of the button use or if I'll like it.
I thought I enjoyed tanks but lately they've been inconsistent for me (flooding w/two hole carts I just got) and lately I've had big problems w/carto consistency SR boges that I've given up on smoketech tanks. I'm currently using a vivi nova. I liked it at first, big time vapor, but now same thing, inconsistent. Fuel delivery and PV is still a big ? right now. I tried dripping but hated it, some hits phenomenal and some terrible. I haven't given up, but wife is ready for me to pick it and stick it. So am I frankly.
A week ago I had a carto go 5 days straight w/ BWB rootbeer. I thought I was in heaven, then that carto died and I'm back to busting out new cartos every day w/crap for vape the whole time. A new vivi head works great for a couple days but I hate getting burned juice tongue. ouch! (p.s. I just swapped my fourth ICR 18350 out) wtf!
I'll be going with a VV Grand. Rob is set to produce up to 1000 of them. First batch coming out 9/9, another couple hundred due a few weeks later.
VV Grand has the notcigs VV controller (well tested, consistent, output -- it's used in the Notcigs Buzz and Infinity Pro, their VVPV, and the VV Woodvil) coupled with REOS' tried-and-true Grand feeder. An excellent matchup
I've had notcigs original infinity, two buzz pros (second is just for backup, very good price point), and vvpv. VV Grand will have higher eliquid capacity and a bit better run time than VVPV between battery swaps, though the top-feed VVPV is top notch for flavor
I've tried a non-regulated feeder, a beautiful wooden RSM Mark 9. It's a gorgeous product, works well, excellent run time, but I've become very much spoiled by the consistency of a good VV (I use the RSM with big 18650 batteries, but there is still that taper in output).
I'd suggest looking at the VV Grand rather than a non-regulated REO plus a Kick, at least if you want runtime to match eliquid.
The reason a Kick was suggested, I expect, is that the base REO Grand or Woodvil, the non VV, is not regulated -- output power will vary over time, as the battery discharges. If you want even a little over 3.7V (other than first few puffs off an unregulated fully charged battery), a regulated unit is what you need. Likewise if you want the output to stay consistent, you need regulated. The notcigs-based products, the Provari, and PV with a Kick added all get you to a well regulated output.
You're looking at some good products, none of the choices are bad. If a tube PV with tank is a valid option (should be if you're considering Provari), you might want to also check the Buzz Pro. It runs about $125 total with two sets of batteries and charger, after taking the "ECF Buzzkill" discount, is a very good, durable, unit.
Many pv don't regulate, they just pass through the battery voltage which does vary with time, as the battery discharges. It'll start about 4.2v, drop fairly quickly to around 3.7v. Depending on the atty resistance you will also see some voltage sag when actually vaping it, if the battery has trouble delivering enough current.
Most people seem to find the buzz button fine. It is a decent switch, takes firm pressure but not a huge amount. Preferences vary, but i wouldn't have bought a second one if i found it tough to use.
Most people seem to find the buzz button fine. It is a decent switch, takes firm pressure but not a huge amount. Preferences vary, but i wouldn't have bought a second one if i found it tough to use.
I used the Provari V2 w/ extension for 10 days. I recently used two different provari minis, one just for a few drags and the other for 3 days. They are very, very nice mods. I can see why provari users love them. I considered buying a provari before the V2 and considered it again when the V2's came out.
I have a few feeders. Right now, my two most used PVs are my notcigs VVPV and my REO VV Woodville. I'll be buying a REO VV Grand (9th of Sept if I'm lucky... two weeks later if they sell out faster than I can buy one). My other feeders include a REO mini, a boggers box, and an old goat feeder. My boggers is probably on its way out in a trade this week - my old goat needs to be replaced - and I'll keep that mini probably as long as I continue to vape (likely forever).
So, since you are considering a REO and you've been made aware of the impending sale of the VV Grands, Here is why I use VV Feeders and decided not to buy a Provari: When I leave the house for the day to go to work or anywhere else, I take exactly one vaping related item with me. I carry no vaping supplies. I carry no bottles of juice. I carry no spare batteries. I carry no filled cartos. I carry no tanks... nada. nothing.. zip. zilch. I either have my VVPV or I have my REO VV Woodville and that's it. The VVPV has 5 ml of juice on board and a full charge allows it to consume more than 5ml at my settings with the atty I use (all day juice supply and all day battery life). The REO VV Woodville has 6 ml of juice on board and a freshly charged set of batteries allows it to consume just a bit more than 6 ml at my settings with the atty I use (again, all day juice supply and all day battery life).
These two PVs provide not just all day battery life and juice supply, but also the most hassle-free and consistent vaping experience possible. The provari has some very nice features (battery level indicator, ohm meter, etc) and is a very well made device. What it was unable to do was provide enough battery life with the carto I was using at the settings I preferred to get me all the way through a day. And, though I know coupling the Provari with a 5ml carto tank would be enough e-juice to get through a work day, I'm not awfully fond of filling carto tanks, punching cartos, changing cartos, etc. The provari did not offer me the same freedom of carrying absolutely no extra stuff with me.
I have a few feeders. Right now, my two most used PVs are my notcigs VVPV and my REO VV Woodville. I'll be buying a REO VV Grand (9th of Sept if I'm lucky... two weeks later if they sell out faster than I can buy one). My other feeders include a REO mini, a boggers box, and an old goat feeder. My boggers is probably on its way out in a trade this week - my old goat needs to be replaced - and I'll keep that mini probably as long as I continue to vape (likely forever).
So, since you are considering a REO and you've been made aware of the impending sale of the VV Grands, Here is why I use VV Feeders and decided not to buy a Provari: When I leave the house for the day to go to work or anywhere else, I take exactly one vaping related item with me. I carry no vaping supplies. I carry no bottles of juice. I carry no spare batteries. I carry no filled cartos. I carry no tanks... nada. nothing.. zip. zilch. I either have my VVPV or I have my REO VV Woodville and that's it. The VVPV has 5 ml of juice on board and a full charge allows it to consume more than 5ml at my settings with the atty I use (all day juice supply and all day battery life). The REO VV Woodville has 6 ml of juice on board and a freshly charged set of batteries allows it to consume just a bit more than 6 ml at my settings with the atty I use (again, all day juice supply and all day battery life).
These two PVs provide not just all day battery life and juice supply, but also the most hassle-free and consistent vaping experience possible. The provari has some very nice features (battery level indicator, ohm meter, etc) and is a very well made device. What it was unable to do was provide enough battery life with the carto I was using at the settings I preferred to get me all the way through a day. And, though I know coupling the Provari with a 5ml carto tank would be enough e-juice to get through a work day, I'm not awfully fond of filling carto tanks, punching cartos, changing cartos, etc. The provari did not offer me the same freedom of carrying absolutely no extra stuff with me.
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Got it, FREEDOM, CONSISTENCY, we all want it, myself included. Thanks for the real world walk through. It definitely helps me visualize how I'll use mine. I'm fine w/tanks and cartos and love em when they work. It's just so hit and miss with all the current cartos being sold. No consistency there
So I just saw the boggers, it looks just like a reo just a lot less money. What's the difference you've found? A used REO cost more than a boggers wood....- Status
