Probably done ordering from Vapor4Life for a while

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vinterchaos

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Maybe I've had bad luck, maybe I haven't .. I'm not sure

I've had multiple USB passthroughs that last a month maybe a month and a half from here, the past 3 batteries have been really weak (weaker than my older dying vapor4life batteries/non v4l as well) and i've had a few dead cartomizers (cool carts) in my last few orders too, not to mention the taste gets bad after a day (not because of my liquid)

I appreciate all the great sales you guys have, but the $$ amount going down the drain lately has been higher than I like to spend on inadequate products.

Hope no one else been having the experiences I've been having, maybe I'll revisit the company in a few months to escape what I assume is a bad track record. :(
 

vinterchaos

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i've talked to them in the past, they replaced one passthrough, kudos on that

you have to pay shipping to send them back defective stuff, essentially further costing more cash

as far as dead carts, blanks or filled, they do nothing for that as i had mentioned it during the passthrough incident and nothing was done

i recently bought a battery and coolcart pack, battery fullcharged is hard to even spark anything up in the cart, and when it does its really weak..
 

logrus

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I really don't understand why people who need some customer service attention feel they have to start a thread about it rather than just contacting V4L. I don't get it.

On the one hand I agree, I haven't had any major issues and it can be distracting for the occasional gripe to pop up here; OTOH things like shipping defects do cost money and what may be trends in bad batches, if they are trends or batches as opposed to just anomalies, are something I'd like to know about as a consumer. If I have to possibly factor in 1) an extended wait for an item due to sending something back and 2) factor in another $7 for shipping on top of that wait then I'd like to know all that before making a choice.

So far I've only seen two or three gripes in the past few weeks and none of them seemed and more poorly worded or thought out than a lot of the positive comments.
 

keyzygirl

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Shipping a PT back may cost $2.I agree that its a bummer when things dont work properly,but I have never recieved a refund for any product that I didnt return from any company but V4L,have you?Do other companies that you buy from just say keep it and we will send you a refund anyway?Ive never heard of that.How can they figure out what the problem is if they cant inspect the item?Im confused.
 

logrus

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Shipping a PT back may cost $2.I agree that its a bummer when things dont work properly,but I have never recieved a refund for any product that I didnt return from any company but V4L,have you?Do other companies that you buy from just say keep it and we will send you a refund anyway?Ive never heard of that.How can they figure out what the problem is if they cant inspect the item?Im confused.

I've been fortunate in not having many bad experiences purchasing things anywhere and haven't had many online purchases period, but the fw times I've had to return an item online varied in how it was handled with return shipping. With consumer electronics (probably the thing I've bought online the most and also typically more expensive an item compared to things like consumables) there is no universal standard but sending a shipping box is pretty common.

Now a PT is a pretty inexpensive thing, even though it's an electronic device so paying shipping costs could eat up a big hunk of any margin that exists. However, as a consumer knowing the failure rate is an advantage. Even if one consumer feels it is pretty small (I suspect it must be) each individual consumer should have the ability to make the most informed decision possible. If I get gunshy about one or two problems even if those one or two are such a tiny percentage as to be insignificant then it's my right to make a silly choice.

I think the bigger concern for many users who have not yet (or have no desire to ever) started a stockpile of supplies would be knowing if there is a trend in missing items or mispacked items. Even if there is no shipping charge for replacing them it's an issue of potentially being out of something essential like juice and thus slipping back on to analogs.

This is the very reason I went with V4L in the first place, and I've not had reason to regret that choice. I had an order in with V2 initially and they were jerking me around for two weeks on shipping and not being up-front about the status of inventory. I had a deadline for quitting analogs and V4L had the rep for getting product out quickly so I took my business there. Now if I felt there was pressure for people not to report issues, even trivial ones, no matter where the source of the pressure (peer or purveyor) I'd have to really begin to question who I was doing business with.

Thus far I've no complaints about how the V4L people handle complaints, and as a user and client I personally encourage people who have all ranges of experience to communicate openly about them so long as they do so with respect and the kind of moderation they would show if they were dealing face-to-face. I'm an adult, I've owned and operated a a retail store with three physical presences; I know crud happens. If I never saw a complaint of any kind I'd think something suspicious was going on.
 

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I too have owned and operated a business,now I live on an island with a small population and very few stores so I now do all of my childrens birthday and christmas plus most household and clothing and electronics shopping online.I can honestly say that its not always easy to even contact some companies when trying to do a return.Very few give a phone # to call and most will not ship until they recieve the return item back.Ive always been able to just ask and have any issue with V4L handled quickly and without question.The item is always sent out to me within a day or two.I havent had that happen a whole lot with other companies.I agree that people should post when they have an issue.I also think the company should be given a chance,a phone call or PM before posting negative things about them.They always fix the issue given the chance.People dont complain about complaints,they complain about posting negative comments when V4L has not even been contacted.I would like to hear a complaint if V4L refused to help someone or if they purposely did not try to fix an issue.That would upset me and I would want to know.
 

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That's why I'm staying out of these threads Ms. Keyzy...... Even when I was just a lurker I saw how quickly any issue was addressed by a member of the V4L staff.... If they still had an issue, I would see Steve sir himself pop in and address it. No other company I looked into had that kind of cs.... While V4L wasn't my first choice in ecigs, it is my last. Time and time again they come through for people.... I'm a very loyal person once someone, or a company, gains my trust. V4L has earned that trust.....
 

keyzygirl

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I agree,I should stay out of it.It just bothers me sometimes.Ive been with vapor4life almost since they started,Ive watched them go from a beginner to a big company that always stands behind their product.The guys are all men of their word and I hate to see them tarnished.Its not fangirl behavior,Im just really proud of what they have become in such a short amount of time.Nuff said.
 

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If it is any consolation.....I came to V4L b/c of the support and praise of the company.....you will always have glitches, and someone unhappy with the result (price of the retail industry.....having been in management in that industry, there are just some people that you cannot please no matter what)....but, with that said, there are by far more positive reviews and thoughts and such for this company that the others kinda fall through on deaf ears when trying to find where to buy from. I only remember the 2 I have seen in the past few days....but what stuck with me was all the rave reviews and loyal customers....they can call them fanboys or fangirls or whatever....but you don't get that kind of following by being a back-street po-dunk vendor. There HAS to be more.....you can have the cadillac pv, but if the company sucks, there will NEVER be a following!

Now Keyz, Morandir, and the rest of ya (Snow, Mmc, MaryKay, and I REALLY wish I had a better memory...oh Maxwell....oh my...I know there are so many others....well you know who you are:))....give yourselves a big hug cause you are the ones that help the rest of us know what kind of company V4L is!....
 

Kanza

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No, I disagree - stay in it :) Because of the user posts I read (back in my lurking days), I knew this was the company for me! So, keep your passions - both pro and con - because it helps others get a fair and balanced feedback on V4L and their relationship with their customers! They let their customers blow off steam and leave the posts to be seen by all and that's pretty darn amazing!

I even read some threads back to their very beginning and saw many instances of anger quickly turned to joy because of an unexpectedly quick and fair resolution by V4L and I even saw one time that the feedback was so negative they warned other customers there might be a problem with a product. Unheard of - a consumer-lead voluntary recall!

Now, unfortunately, I will have to contact customer service over a problem not of their making. My package arrived in a very timely manner but had a large rip in it and the cap on one of the juices was pried loose, allowing ejuice to spill out. I know it happened during shipping but now am curious about how they will handle it :) I expect good results!
 

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Now, unfortunately, I will have to contact customer service over a problem not of their making. My package arrived in a very timely manner but had a large rip in it and the cap on one of the juices was pried loose, allowing ejuice to spill out. I know it happened during shipping but now am curious about how they will handle it :) I expect good results!

Please reply and let us know the results of you contacting customer service at the post office. Very rarely have I heard about a post office caused problem getting satisfactory results from said post office. If you get good results, please share your strategy, because I have given up trying to get my PO to deliver my supplies undamaged.
 

Maxwell_Edison

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I've had a few problems that were resolved quickly. I just don't think any other company will have a better PT or e-cig. I'm certain the e-cig is in it's beginnings, and has a lot of evolving to do, and that's true for all suppliers. The question for me is, do I want to get a bad PT from a company that won't replace or stick with V4L and pay a small fee to send the product back (which helps them trace the problem and make things better)?? For me it was a no-brainer. I'm sticking with V4L, and they're stuck with me too LOL ;)

There's so may other things to consider, but I'm not going to get into them all. I think of myself as a smart shopper and I know I'm where I'm supposed to be.
 
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