Problems with the BB
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I'm using Trustfire 14500 900mAh 3.7v for 3.7v vaping and Excellerater CR2 3v LiFopo4's for 6v vaping. Don't get me wrong, I love my BB at 6v. I'm sure there's something screwy with it because of the difference at 3.7v between it and another mod using the same atty and cart. I'd send it back to be "fixed" but since it is perfect at 6v, I'm keeping it right here. 
Okay, if you ever change your mind just get in touch with me.I'm using Trustfire 14500 900mAh 3.7v for 3.7v vaping and Excellerater CR2 3v LiFopo4's for 6v vaping. Don't get me wrong, I love my BB at 6v. I'm sure there's something screwy with it because of the difference at 3.7v between it and another mod using the same atty and cart. I'd send it back to be "fixed" but since it is perfect at 6v, I'm keeping it right here.
Fair enough, thanks.Okay, if you ever change your mind just get in touch with me.
I too have a bit of powder coat inside. I will clean it this weekend and hopefully get improved performance. I was wondering if using an adapter will decrease power to the atty. Has anyone with a meter tested this? I used to get a real a good throat hit with my KR808 cartos and the stock batteries that came with that kit (can't test now because the charger died). Now only the 510 does it for me. Maybe my tolerance is just getting higher because now all I do is tailpipe the 510 atty. Don't get me wrong, I love the BB and the tailpipe setup is working well for me. I like the smaller size of having just the atty on the BB but dripping can be a pain sometimes.
I'm using the blue 3.7 batteries from the altsmoke site and I got the KR808 to 501 adapter from there too which leads me to another question. Is anyone else getting round scratch marks at the positive connection of the batt and atty. Not really sure if its the 510 or the 808 adapter or both doing the scratching. I don't really care if it doesn't end up getting worse and affecting performance. I'll post a pic...
Alright then, quoting my own post. -Lame I know... Is no one using an adapter on this thing that can chime in? Am I the only one getting a scratched up pos. connector? For what its worth, cleaning the over spray with nail polish remover and some scraping definitely improved the output on my BB. It's still not pushing the 808 as much as i'd like but what are ya gonna do.
Gotta say though, I'm pretty surprised at the tolerance of the vaping community. -self included. I've owned a couple of business's and I wish my customers were so understanding.. Sadly, I feel a little dissed though. Not only did none of the altsmoke crew comment on my post, they never responded to the email I sent after I placed my order. I was actually trying too add to it. Is this not a biz that would thrive on repeat customers? Am I venting? Is there nothing on TV? Am I out of beer?
Well I don't know why this is happening but mine has done the same thing. I use the 808 adapter and I have noticed the post has some flaking. There is nothing to worry about with this. It would not affect the electrical current passing from the battery to the atomizer. If it makes you feel better you could always scape off the flacks. Also I have checked by using a multi meter. The current is passing correctly and the button has not affected the performance.
Just my $.02
Yes the scrape is normal when using adapters. The threads and adapters are nickel plated brass.Try to not torque down the adapters. Best practice is to install the adapter on the BB first then the atomizer/cartomizer. I can not speak for why your email was not answered, I manufacture the BB/SB for Rob. I do know that emails have tenancies to get lost. Did you receive shipping notice prior to trying to add to your order?
Chad
I agree, this is the first issue that we've really ran into...glad to see the customers not beating down my door to slit my throat because of it.
Now keep in mind, when you say Crew you mean Me =P I work a 40-60 hour job on top of keeping up with everyone else, which means I typically get up at 6am and goto bed at about 2am. It helps to be a workaholic, plus the ability to have magic powers does help from time to time. Ya Packages wrap themselves while items fly into bags and tape themselves!, it's pretty cool!
If I don't respond right away (or it's been 1-2 days) send it back, sometimes my email has hiccups as I'm at one of three places where I check them. It may have been possible that it got stuck in limbo ;P
I did add a ticketing system on the website for 'issues', but that will be a bit more apparent in the future here after the website gets a face lift (for the last time, maybe?) or just PM me here
Sorry for the inconvenience, but I don't even know what your email address is nor your name to even try to find this email =X Resend it or PM me
And I will answer
Thanks to those who commented. I'm glad to hear the scrapes wont be an issue. Its been almost a full day since I used up the last of my wifes nail polish remover cleaning the inside of the BB and I still notice an improvement so thats good. I'm gonna order some of the higher voltage batts and probably the BB PT. I think those will give me what I'm looking for out of the 808's.
Rob, I wish I had your drive. I certainly can't function on 4 hours sleep. No sweat on the order email. I just wanted to add a couple attys but I'm all set now.
Rob, I wish I had your drive. I certainly can't function on 4 hours sleep. No sweat on the order email. I just wanted to add a couple attys but I'm all set now.
I am psyched with my BB... very psyched. 6V with the LiFePO4 excellerator batteries mentioned in another Altsmoke thread here are what I use & I love em. The PT is my first 5V experience so I don't have much to compare it to, but when I hear folks mention its similar to 6V I must be missing something. My 5v PT pushes out a bit better than my BB or SB at 3.7V & is nowhere close to 6V IMO. I am curious as to whether there's something up with my particular PT? Output readings at the atty port under load is 4.98V which is just about right. I think I might just be spoiled with 6+v vaping where 1-2 second pulls produce clouds. My 5V PT makes me have to draw 5-7+ seconds for an equivalent sized cloud. I suppose thats just how it is? Anybody...?
I seem to be in the club with Pete. I've scrubbed, sanded, brushed and acetoned the inside of this thing until is spotless. I get a better hit off a $14 510 passthrough with an inline 10440 batt. I have 2 other 3.7v mods and I can take the same 3.7v batt and the same atty and cart they both blow the BB away.
I finally got my 3.0v batts from DX a couple days ago. The BB hits well with this setup, but doesn't quite hit as well as the 5v USB PT I've got - the one with the too thick cable.
I notice that the body of the BB get warm, not hot, just warm at 6v. Especially at the bottom. I pull the batts out very quickly and they are cool. I'm wondering if the body is giving it the unwanted resistance or perhaps the spring is the weak link. If if get bored I may just strip all the Krinkle off of it to see if that make a difference. I wouldn't expect all that metal to get warm passing 6v.
I finally got my 3.0v batts from DX a couple days ago. The BB hits well with this setup, but doesn't quite hit as well as the 5v USB PT I've got - the one with the too thick cable.
I notice that the body of the BB get warm, not hot, just warm at 6v. Especially at the bottom. I pull the batts out very quickly and they are cool. I'm wondering if the body is giving it the unwanted resistance or perhaps the spring is the weak link. If if get bored I may just strip all the Krinkle off of it to see if that make a difference. I wouldn't expect all that metal to get warm passing 6v.
Lotus,
It sounds to me like it is not a powder coat issue with yours, a funky switch can cause the issue you are having. As far as the heat, your hand is heating it up....... this is T6061 aluminum, same material as the SB, and they both use a stainless spring. Get in touch with me or Rob so we can get a replacement unit out to you so I can have a look at yours.
Well cleaning the base certainly worked for me. I was a bit worried that I wouldn't be able to get the spring back in but I got it. Now it is performing quite well!!!! I thought I would pass on that yesterday I was out in 5 degree weather with a wind chill of -22 and the BB never stopped working or significantly lost charge due to cold!!!!! I was very impressed (certainly lasted like 2 hours longer than my Blackberry out there!). The outercasing was Very cold and I figured I wouldn't be vaping but it held on and was outstanding
I just got my new BB fired up at 3.7 volts and it's awesome! This is my first experience with any sort of mod so I don't have anything to compare it to other than the regular 510 batteries and the MegaPower 510 batteries. I'm getting consistently great hits which is a new experience for me after 5 months of vaping.
There was a little bit of overspray in the bottom but I cleaned it out prior to my first use and it seems to be problem free. It feels good in the hand and seems to be extremely well constructed.
Cheers!
B
There was a little bit of overspray in the bottom but I cleaned it out prior to my first use and it seems to be problem free. It feels good in the hand and seems to be extremely well constructed.
Cheers!
B
I had some of this overspray in there and used acetone as advised (nail varnish remover, donated by my mum!)...damn thing is gleaming in there now, not even a speck of that stuff!
Ohiomelody is dead right when she says don't get any on the outside though, the way it stripped the powdercoat from inside was ruthless...getting it on the outside would be a disaster!
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Ohiomelody is dead right when she says don't get any on the outside though, the way it stripped the powdercoat from inside was ruthless...getting it on the outside would be a disaster!
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I initially had an issue with my BB which I attributed to the powdercoat, but it seems that it was the switch that was the culprit. No matter how clean I got the interior, it just wasn't working right. I contacted Chad and Rob and had a replacement within a few days and it's all good(Hopefully Chad can get the original bad switch BB fixed up and running- I hate to see a good BB wasted).
For those that have also purchased the BB pass thru add-on, remember(especially if it's your 1st high voltage device) to keep the atty WET. Atty's have a tendency to blow quite quickly when they dry out at higher voltages.
Again, if people are having a hard time finding a good USB adapter to power the BB passthru. Here's one that has never let me down(inexpensive too, but certainly not cheap):
USB Dual Power Adapter
I've had 3 of them for over 4 months now working on 3 different 5V direct connect PT's and it has never once flinched(2Amp power)
For those that have also purchased the BB pass thru add-on, remember(especially if it's your 1st high voltage device) to keep the atty WET. Atty's have a tendency to blow quite quickly when they dry out at higher voltages.
Again, if people are having a hard time finding a good USB adapter to power the BB passthru. Here's one that has never let me down(inexpensive too, but certainly not cheap):
USB Dual Power Adapter
I've had 3 of them for over 4 months now working on 3 different 5V direct connect PT's and it has never once flinched(2Amp power)
Oh, meant to say that my only real gripe/complaint about this is the spring...it looks out of place when looking at the fit, finish and overall quality of this unit, it just seems like a scrawny interloper that sneaked in there when nobody was looking.
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I find that even the two 3.7v mods I own tend to brutalise your carts and slurp up more juice than generic 3.7v batts...I suppose the fact that 10440's and 14500's roll off the charger at a higher voltage than generic 3.7's has that effect.
Can't wait to get my PT for this badboy though!
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Lotus,
It sounds to me like it is not a powder coat issue with yours, a funky switch can cause the issue you are having. As far as the heat, your hand is heating it up....... this is T6061 aluminum, same material as the SB, and they both use a stainless spring. Get in touch with me or Rob so we can get a replacement unit out to you so I can have a look at yours.
Yeah, could be the switch. I have a Protege in the hospital..er..repair shop after having replaced 2 switches in 2 months. Steve hope he will have better luck with his new design. So do his customers!
As for it warming up, it's not my hand. I hold it between vapes and it cools. And it only heats up a 6v, not at 3.7v. Maybe it's more the batts than I think it is. Dunno really.
It hits pretty well at 6v, but probably not like it should. The real negative is, the rated at 800mah cr2s I'm using (probably closer to 500mah) last about like a standard 510 battery. The juice has gotta be going somewhere or I have 10 really weak cr2s! If I had the time I'd make a rig so I could test it under load, but I'm swamped with work and don't feel like dragging out the soldering iron and fixing one up. Maybe next week I could get around to it.
If you wanna check it out, that's fine with me of course, but this one was a GIFT from Rob. He promised a freebie to someone on both forums and I was the very lucky guy at ECF. So I'm really not expecting warranty service or anything.
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