Prohibitionists post, health activists remove, false and misleading e-cigarette propaganda posters at U of Kentucky

[Bill Godshall]

Prohibitionists post, health activists remove, false and misleading e-cigarette propaganda posters at University of Kentucky
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The poster mentions tobacco-Free UK, which I couldn't find any information about in various searches.

But the poster cites as a reference the Hahn/Riker propaganda article "E-cigarettes: Promise or Peril" that was irresponsibly published earlier this year in a nursing journal.

Wonder who made and is posting these posters?

I encourage all health activists at University of Kentucky to tear down every poster that can be removed, and to cover over those that can't be removed.

 

[Placebo Effect]

As an alternative to defacing these posters and risking being barred from UK's campus, those in Lexington should work to get a student organization sympathetic to our cause (i.e., conservative or libertarian groups) to go through the red tape necessary to get permission to put up flyers countering the propaganda shown on the flyer.

 

[VapApe]

You can just about make out the brand name on the e cig in the poster.

Some one should inform the University of Kentucky, That the vendor of that brand mite not be to happy seeing their brand being bashed like that. And they need to take them down just in case. To prevent a possible law suite.

I doubt that they could be sued . But if we could spin it as possibly it mite work.

 

[Vocalek]

Oh it definitely came from Ellen Hahn's office. See: Fact Sheets

Select the link labeled "E-cigarettes".

 

[Myk]

You can just about make out the brand name on the e cig in the poster.

Some one should inform the University of Kentucky, That the vendor of that brand mite not be to happy seeing their brand being bashed like that. And they need to take them down just in case. To prevent a possible law suite.

I doubt that they could be sued . But if we could spin it as possibly it mite work.

I would be amazed if they wouldn't lose in such a lawsuit. Brand showed, false claims. To get any money may require a proof of losses but cease and desist should be pretty easy.

 

[VapApe]

Nice of them to leave their play book out in the open for all to see.
I am lost for words after reading their battle plans. I don't know what else to call it.

But after reading some of it I am mad enough to kick the south bound end of a north bound skunk

 

[VapApe]

After looking at that poster again some things aren't adding up. Now does UK mean United Kingdom or University of Kentucky? The photo credit is to a guy in Las Vegas. This thing stinks on so many levels.

 

[rondasherrill]

Oh it definitely came from Ellen Hahn's office. See: Fact Sheets

Select the link labeled "E-cigarettes".

WOW! A whole website dedicated to spewing crap... Felt like I was back in 1993 reading the Weekly World News.

 

[Placebo Effect]

After looking at that poster again some things aren't adding up. Now does UK mean United Kingdom or University of Kentucky? The photo credit is to a guy in Las Vegas. This thing stinks on so many levels.

Yes, this is University of Kentucky.

The photo can essentially be used by anyone who isn't charging for it and gives credit to the photographer -- Electronic Cigarette Smoking | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

 

[VapApe]

Seeing how the play book of their spin factory is open to us. How can we make best use of it?

One thing I would like to know how much of their donation funding goes to them.
And how much if any is siphon off for other things by the university.

 

[TennDave]

How crazy...and this lady lives not far from me...so stupid.
"Smoke Free!" Oh, but there is no smoke in vapor... Geez

 

[Vocalek]

And take a look at the latest work of fiction from Ellen Hahn and associates:

http://chfs.ky.gov/NR/rdonlyres/12C0C8B9-5BD1-4CAC-8147-C3E0DA6E9C5E/0/EmergingTobaccoProducts.pdf

ECF screen capture is in Slide #23 - no hint of what she says about it when presenting the slide show.

 

[Jfresh859]

I haven't seen these posters anywhere.
On another note I was asked to put m cigg. Out at the hospital, and then the guard realized what it was. I got to finish my vape while he asked questions haha

 

[VapApe]

Did you see were she left out NRT lookalikes.
And she may need to be reminded about a little thing called copyrights.

Oh EH if you are reading this

And may I offer you some more tinfoil for your hat?

 

[jtpjc]

But she's right in slide 29 that "Definitions are critical!!!" Even if hers is wrong:

“Smoking” means inhaling, exhaling, burning, or carrying any lighted or heated cigar, cigarette, or pipe, or any other lighted or heated tobacco or plant product intended for inhalation, in any manner or in any form. “Smoking” also includes the use of an e-cigarette which creates a vapor, in any manner or in any form, or the use of any oral smoking device for the purpose of circumventing the prohibition of smoking in this Article.”

 

[Bill Godshall]

Placebo Effect wrote

As an alternative to defacing these posters and risking being barred from UK's campus, those in Lexington should work to get a student organization sympathetic to our cause (i.e., conservative or libertarian groups) to go through the red tape necessary to get permission to put up flyers countering the propaganda shown on the flyer.

I'm not aware that political signs posted on public property (especially those posted without obtaining formal approval to do so) are protected by private property laws. Besides, ever since political signs began being posted on public property, opponents (many of whom subsequently became councilmen, commissioners, mayors and legislators) have been removing them. Its a long standing American political tradition.

I never obtained permission to post any of many signs I've posted throughout the University of Pittsburgh and the eastern neighborhoods of Pittsburgh during the past 30 years (as well as at the courthouse, city/county building and the state capitol). Folks who post political signs are concerned about being charged with defacing public property or littering (by putting up signs), and assume that they no longer own a flyer once its posted.

I've also removed many political signs (e.g. that promoted racism, the criminalization of abortion, the war on drugs and cigarette smoking).

Besides, I strongly doubt that any administrators at UK or its College of Nursing would take action against anyone who removed Hahn's signs (especially those taped, thumbtacked, stapled or attached to a stick in the ground), as long as no property was damaged (e.g. an enclosed display case containing a sign). In the latter case, I'd tape a sign over the display case saying "The poster under this is a lie".

I agree that concerned folks at UK should also expose and oppose (in the news media) Hahn's posters and her other false claims.

But seeking permission to posting a competing flyer next to Hahn's is like asking permission to post a "peace" sign next a swastika on public property.

 

[VapApe]

Just throwing this out there. Could we start a group or post here on ECF to work on strategy's to counter the ANTZ.
Just taking a page from EH as it were

Call it the advocate team or A-TEAM.
Yes we do have CASAA but they have a very full plate as it is.

Many of us are not as well spoken as we would like to be.
To be able to have frame works and strategy's to look at would be a big help.
Be it letter writing or speaking in front of a city government.

I just love it when a plan come together

 

[Jfresh859]

I live on campus here as kinda wana. Post some ecig posters ontop of her posters lol.
I feel like they just straight up lie though, how is that legal for a health admin. to lie about health

 

[recidivus]

Oh jeez. How many chemicals are used to treat that paper, the ink, the glues, etc. First thing I saw was that the ecig brand is visible (I'm not sure if it even is a brand, it's just the common No Entry symbol). Even IF these claims were true, the ecig itself is not the cause of any harm. Oh no! Dihydrogen monoxide is in the very air we breath! Something must be done to...

Bah I give up. Let em live in a bubble.

 

[VapApe]

How about at the bottom of the poster add
"There are lies, dam lies, and statistics" Mark Twain
The above poster falls more in the former, than the latter as no statistics were stated.

Make it a stencil and print on the poster then they will take it down.
Or print it out and glue it on.