Proposed amendment to ban e-cigs in carry-on luggage

[Verb]

Excellent points, everyone! I was inspired to add this to the CASAA letter:

Presumably, this amendment is being promoted as a safety measure, as there have been a handful of reported incidents involving lithium ion e-cigarette batteries overheating and "exploding." However, there have been many more reported incidents involving laptop and cellphone batteries, which are also lithium ion. In fact, the eight (8) li-ion batteries in my laptop are identical to the single battery in my personal vaporizer. Hundreds of millions of lithium-ion batteries are produced every year, yet failures are quite rare.The batteries in many flashlights are also identical to the battery in my personal vaporizer. for example: http://www.amazon.com/Opti-Flood-Ad...90429&sr=8-10&keywords=flashlight+lithium+ion

Yet there is no talk of banning laptops, cellphones or li-ion powered flashlights on airline flights. Batteries do not know what kind of a device they are in. There is nothing peculiar to electronic cigarettes that makes a battery misbehave or more prone to misuse than in any other device. If any li-ion battery is damaged, put in the wrong charger, exposed to excessive heat, etc., it can pose a danger. If you put an un-sheathed li-ion battery in your pocket with keys and loose change it can short circuit. It doesn't matter whether the battery was a spare e-cigarette battery or a spare flashlight battery. Yet Sen. Blumenthal's focus is exclusively on e-cigarettes. Why? Well, for a long time Sen. Blumenthal has been a vocal critic of anything having to to do with e-cigarettes. In his view, they are pure evil and just as bad if not worse than combustible cigarettes. The millions of people like myself who have quit smoking with them, after all other methods had failed, are dismissed as mere "anecdotes" or Astroturf.

And please note that Sen. Blumenthal's amendment can be interpreted to ban all e-cigarettes, irrespective of whether they even have an actual battery in them, as he has defined "battery-powered electronic smoking device" to include ALL e-cigarettes and personal vaporizers. Under Sen. Blumenthal's amendment, could I remove the battery from my personal vaporizer, put it in a flashlight, and legally carry both onto the plane?

Well, without a battery the object couldn't be a vaporizer. At that point I'd refer to it as sculpture.

 

[DrMA]

Sen Blumenthal has considerable history opposing vaping products. I doubt he realises or cares that this action will protect the tobacco industry he claims to hate so.

In terms of whether this action is necessary... There clearly is a problem with uneducated users having 18650s in their pockets and these going thermal. I've counted 6 such incidents this year, and wouldn't like to see it happen on a plane.

However, surely the answer is simple: batteries must be put in protective cases!

FAA regs already prohibit loose batteries in both carry on & checked luggage

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[Jingles]

I called my senators and sent my emails today! I just returned from a Vegas trip a week ago with my vaporizers in my purse. As usual, no problems with my batteries while flying! In fact, I've never had a battery explode or melt at home either in almost 5 years of vaping! This is ridiculous!

 

[bigdancehawk]

Well, without a battery the object couldn't be a vaporizer. At that point I'd refer to it as sculpture.

Is a flashlight still a flashlight without the battery? I don't much look forward to an interesting theoretical discussion with the TSA agents as my plane leaves the gate. The proposed legislation is hopelessly flawed.

 

[house mouse]

The last in flight fire I am aware of was in March and was caused by an iphone 6. But they don't want to ban iphones?

Girl's iPhone catches fire on Alaska Airlines flight to Hawaii

 

[Robino1]

The last in flight fire I am aware of was in March and was caused by an iphone 6. But they don't want to ban iphones?

Girl's iPhone catches fire on Alaska Airlines flight to Hawaii

I honestly don't think that this will go through....

But then I didn't think that they would have smoking bans in bars either

What a messed up world we live in.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

But then I didn't think that they would have smoking bans in bars either

Yep, I was disappointed also. Not because I go to bars, but because it should be left up to the business owner. Don't go to that business if you object. There was already at least 1 in town I am aware of that had a owner made no smoking policy. No one was forcing anyone to go into a smoking area.

 

[Endor]

Emails sent to my Senators. Yep, Feinstein and Boxer. <Sigh> Might as well pee on a spark plug; if it was up to Boxer, vapor products would already be contraband, so I'm sure she supports any effort to ban them in any situation and could give a crap about my viewpoints on the matter.

 

[Alexander Mundy]

Emails sent to my Senators. Yep, Feinstein and Boxer. <Sigh> Might as well pee on a spark plug; if it was up to Boxer, vapor products would already be contraband, so I'm sure she supports any effort to ban them in any situation and could give a crap about my viewpoints on the matter.

 

[Katya]

I have to find my SD Keyring mod; I wonder if it's still working. I used to carry one on my keychain for vaping emergencies. It's been a while.

I could also get one of those--I always wanted one...

 

[Katya]

I use film cans for my atties, they never get a second glance.

Where does one get film cans nowadays?

 

[Alexander Mundy]

I have to find my SD Keyring mod

Wasn't that the itty bitty one I remember from Breaktru's place?

 

[Katya]

Hence the law that is intended to increase safety, actually decreases safety.

Wouldn't be the first one... Dolts!

 

[zoiDman]

Is that an e-Cigarette?

No Sir. That's NOT an e-Cigarette. Its just my Phone.

OK. Thank you. Have a Nice Flight.

 

[Katya]

Wasn't that the itty bitty one I remember from Breaktru's place?

I got mine years ago--they were very popular as a novelty item and very handy back when we all used cartomizers. They were made in the UK, if I remember correctly. I don't recall where I bought mine.

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[snork]

The last in flight fire I am aware of was in March and was caused by an iphone 6. But they don't want to ban iphones?

Girl's iPhone catches fire on Alaska Airlines flight to Hawaii

I made sure I pointed that out in my emails to my Senators.

 

[DC2]

They were made in the UK, if I remember correctly. I don't recall where I bought mine.

I had to look it up to be sure, but I believe Trog created the SD keyring.

 

[edyle]

Is that an e-Cigarette?

No Sir. That's NOT an e-Cigarette. Its just my Phone.

OK. Thank you. Have a Nice Flight.

err,,,, you'll need to put a sticker over the "VapeCase" logo

 

[Katya]

I had to look it up to be sure, but I believe Trog created the SD keyring.

He sure did. I'm trying to remember where I got mine? Electronicstix? I think Jason was the one who got them first. I really liked mine with my Boge cartos. Oh, the good old days.

 

[NoFumus]

From Motherboard:

Should E-Cigarettes Even Be Allowed on Planes?


"As of January 2016, there have been 11 recorded incidents of e-cigarettes either smoking, catching fire, or exploding on planes, according to a report by the FAA. That’s out of a total of 171 incidents of any battery-powered objects catching fire or exploding on planes since 1991, and many of those incidents involved cell phones and laptops."