Proposed Bill makes it Illegal to sell flavored eliquid or flavors used in eliquid

[stevegmu]

Let me make it clear: FDA regulations can be whatever they want. They can define "tobacco flavor" as they wish and then apply this meaning to e-liquid too. There's little chance that by just writing "tobacco" on the bottle you would automagically meet their definition and requirements.

Halo tobaccos are sold and advertised as tobacco flavors. That is what will count...

 

[Str8vision]

If it is so much less than smoking, wouldn't these people be getting nic sick from smoking? There was a recent thread where someone got nic sick from licking 1 drop...

No, you misread what I was saying. We DO add liquid nic, just like with any juice, so it does have an appreciable nic content but only because the nic is added to it when mixing it up. The point was that the nic had to be added else there would be little in the juice.

 

[sub4me]

How much cocoa is in "Synthetic Chocolate"?

Since you seem to be challenged by the use of qualifiers, let's simplify:

"3. Chocolate

(a) designates the product obtained from cocoa products and sugars which, subject to (b), contains not less than 35 % total dry cocoa solids, including not less than 18 % cocoa butter and not less than 14 % of dry non-fat cocoa solids;"

I can totally see a regulation saying;

"3. Tobacco flavour

(a) designates the product obtained from tobacco which contains [....]"

Could you be a bit more polite please??

My understanding is others are Not supposed to use derogatory terms when addressing other posters.

 

[caramel]

It has.

And Apples now can Only be Sold for "Recreational Use". And Cannot be sold as a HRT Product.

I wonder - if we stop ingesting all these recreational products, and feed ourselves only with proven, beneficial drugs approved by FDA, would that keep the doctor away?

 

[caramel]

There was a thread somewhere that someone got sick just walking past a vaper.

Oh yeah, Crab Juice has that effect....

 

[zoiDman]

I wonder - if we stop ingesting all these recreational products, and feed ourselves only with proven, beneficial drugs approved by FDA, would that keep the doctor away?

NO.

That would make us Go to the Doctor More. But that is Exactly what is Needed to keep the Health Care System going.

 

[caramel]

Otherwise, please show me an example of a piece of hardware that, by itself, you would classify as a "flavored inhalant delivery system."

 

[caramel]

NO.

Then their products are unproven too.

 

[SHOCK COLLAR]

its an apple a day keeps the DENTIST away, its natures toothbrush
next they'll want to dumb down the look of the product as to not confse children they just look so tempting to eat. give'em an inch and they wont stop taking, fines or possible jail time for parents of children caught with ejuice and if its any flavor other than tobacco or menthal....does oregon have a death penalty?

 

[zoiDman]

So if people are Against this Oregon Legislation, how do we Fight It?

 

[caramel]

its an apple a day keeps the DENTIST away, its natures toothbrush
next they'll want to dumb down the look of the product as to not confse children they just look so tempting to eat. give'em an inch and they wont stop taking, fines or possible jail time for parents of children caught with ejuice and if its any flavor other than tobacco or menthal....does oregon have a death penalty?

Just don't tell that apple seeds are toxic, they contain cyanide compounds and can kill if you eat a large quantity. They might ban sales to under 18 or something....

 

[Niten13]

"While things like green peppers, black tea and tap water from the city Ann Arbor in Michigan came up negative for any amounts of nicotine, other things like potatoes, tomatoes and eggplant -- all plants in the family Solanaceae -- were revealed to contain measurable amounts."

You must be 18+ to eat potatoes... ITS THE LAW!

 

[Night Hawk]

Just don't tell that apple seeds are toxic, they contain cyanide compounds and can kill if you eat a large quantity. They might ban sales to under 18 or something....

Gee I better watch out then! That latest Caramel Apple flavor I got into could be the life of me yet!

With the good portion of the less harsh drug war coming to an end with the legalization in several states of recreational or medical "weed" as well as the numbers of smokers declining the states are losing out big time on revenues since prisons are for profit holes as well as less cig tax revenues coming in they need a new war!

One former leader of the former Soviet Union appears to have called it correctly when stating "we will take you without firing a shot!" as our individual liberties seem to be diminishing under a new updated form on US Communism! Corporatisms instead of Socialisms now on the menu!

 

[Str8vision]

"While things like green peppers, black tea and tap water from the city Ann Arbor in Michigan came up negative for any amounts of nicotine, other things like potatoes, tomatoes and eggplant -- all plants in the family Solanaceae -- were revealed to contain measurable amounts."

You must be 18+ to eat potatoes... ITS THE LAW!

Tomato plants do have an appreciable nicotine content. I'd be willing to pay extra for liquid nic sourced exclusively from tomato plants, if doing so caused the FDA scientific/legal difficulty in categorizing our industry as "tobacco products"........

 

[Coldrake]

There was a thread somewhere that someone got sick just walking past a vaper.

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[EvilGenius]

lets ban oxygen while we're at it and join ISIS!!!

 

[Night Hawk]

lets ban oxygen while we're at it and join ISIS!!!

No no not ISIS! You got the name wrong! It's Chantrix! That can make your entire day!

if you find that you have suffered from total brain death, arithmia, total memory loss, unexplained bleeding, thought of suicide please discontinue use of Big Pharma toxins and simply pull the trigger! No need to worry trying to improve your health and lessen our profits

 

[David1975]

I don't see how this would be possible to enforce, there by pass it. TFA flavoring like you mentioned is used in e-cig liquid, whoever its also used in baking (ex was a cake decorator). So banning a flavoring used in e-cigs would ban ALL flavoring state wide, and your grocery stores baking/cooking isle would be completely empty.

 

[crxess]

They are idiots and have not even done market research.

20. A person may not
distribute, sell or allow to be sold a flavored tobacco product or a
flavored inhalant delivery system product in this state.

FLAVORED INHALANT DELIVERY SYSTEM!!!!

that is just one of many examples

Edit: another
http://technabob.com/blog/2012/03/17/vaportrim-dessert-inhalers/

So, while they are outlawing their likely future Tax Base, the Fools are also eliminating Current Tax Dollars, while holding out for Sin Taxes on Shrinking Cigarette sales to keep them afloat.

Some how.................... I just don't get it

 

[FlamingoTutu]

How about cocks.

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Does anyone find it interesting that the Oregon capitol building is walking distance from the Oregon state psychiatric hospital?

It's also where they filmed One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.