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stevegmu

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depending on the mix your using they might not need extra water.
but there will be water in it if you add it or not.
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I just don't think it is possible for just the water to vaporize, hence why PG or alcohol is used. If I shake a B-52 the dispersed Bacardi 151 won't ignite. It only ignites when sitting on a layer of heavier liquids which have far less alcohol content...
 

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depending on the mix your using they might not need extra water.
but there will be water in it if you add it or not.
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mike

Where do you come up with this?
Please provide specifications to validate this ridiculous argument.
Once again:
99.9% Pure USP pg
100% Pure Kosher USP VG
Nicotine in 100% PG solution
Flavoring in 100% PG Solution

Where are you finding the H2O?????????????????????????????????

Starting to think you just like inciting people to argue.

*** I DIY My own e-liquids and know what I put in them
 

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Where do you come up with this?
Please provide specifications to validate this ridiculous argument.
Once again:
99.9% Pure USP pg
100% Pure Kosher USP VG
Nicotine in 100% PG solution
Flavoring in 100% PG Solution

Where are you finding the H2O?????????????????????????????????

Starting to think you just like inciting people to argue.

*** I DIY My own e-liquids and know what I put in them
that may be what goes in.once you break the seal and start
mixing water is being absorbed relative to the humidity in
the air.
100% kosher VG?
i am not aware of any VG being 100% pure.
are you not saying 100% of the VG in the bottle is kosher.
100% PG solution?
again i am not aware of any PG that's 100% pure.
you guys can believe what you want.
none of this works without water.
you do not want PG at 300F plus nor VG at 500F plus
in your vape.
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mike
 

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Aww come on now absorbing humidity from the air?
And Water does not vape worth crap in an ecig, why do you think they use PG and VG?
Same reason they do in fog machines. Water would either come out of an ecig as hot steam and or or would rapidly condense and flood your lungs.
why do you think the stuff in fog machines is no where near as pure
as food grade?
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I don't think anyone really knows how vaping works. This is why so many who don't vape are against it...

I agree and Mike is proving so.

Yes there may be some minute absorption, depending on relative humidity. Even then you are talking such a small portion of a percentage as to not work in your assumption.

You can crack the seal on a bottle of VG, direct drip it into an RDA and Vape it. No way will it have time to absorb enough H20 for only H20 to be Vaporizing - IMPOSSIBLE

* However if your assertion were correct, we would all just be vaping water and all the rest is just window dressing.
In that light there is no health concern.:D
 

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I agree and Mike is proving so.

Yes there may be some minute absorption, depending on relative humidity. Even then you are talking such a small portion of a percentage as to not work in your assumption.

You can crack the seal on a bottle of VG, direct drip it into an RDA and Vape it. No way will it have time to absorb enough H20 for only H20 to be Vaporizing - IMPOSSIBLE

* However if your assertion were correct, we would all just be vaping water and all the rest is just window dressing.
In that light there is no health concern.:D

Maybe this is where the vaping causes dehydration myth came from. One could never vape enough to become dehydrated. It simply causes dry mouth with some because they are mouth breathing when they vape...
 

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VG wicks just as good as PG. the problem is VG is heavier.
a little more water is needed to effectively atomize (agonize) it.
it's the water that makes it work.
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mike
It is becoming interesting.
You are refusing to read, time and time again. You are against learning new things. Why you are in discussion? Just to state something, even if it is not based on any facts?
 

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k,guys read it and weep.
how to make fog machine juice.
Make Your Own Fog Juice
now class explain to me me how our vaporizers are so totally
different than what going on in the link.
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mike

In case you did not even read your own link, my comedic friend, the less water the MORE/Thicker Vapor. PG to VG ratio does the exact same thing - Hello:facepalm:
 

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I gave up reading after a few pages so here's my opinion anyway...

We all die, all of us. I could be a health nut and leave a beautiful corpse, or when people look at me in the coffin they could say "Damn, that dude lived a hell of a life". The point I'm trying to make is that I'm going to spend what time I have doing what makes me happy. I carried my weight my whole adulthood and I did things that were pretty bad for me. After a couple years vaping, I can safely say it's a hell of alot better than what I was doing and I'm not going to let a bunch of people who care only about my wallet tell me what to do.
 

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Your reply is a common issue I see on hobby forums, not just vaping forums. So far, up to your post, I haven't seen a single person say vaping IS unhealthy. Rather, just people trying to make educated , thoughtful decisions and replies. It is of utmost IMPORTANCE that we don't consider vaping "safe", until we know this for sure. Considering vaping a healthier alternative to smoking makes SENSE.....but to consider vaping safe does NOT. Why? Because we have no evidence to support that claim. That is just being HONEST, and non-bias.


OK, I get your point.

But it is the *overly* concern about vaping, expressed many times here, that bugs me.
Many things in our daily lives are not garenteed 100% safe either.
But I do not see people expressing their worries in forums about cellphone and wi-fi radiation, about preservatives and colorings in our food, or about new medicines. Just to give some examples of things that have never been tested long-term before release, and yet people no not seem to worry, because they assume those are relatively safe until proven harmful.

With vaping, it is the other way around: people fear it might not be safe, because we have no long-term studies.
In fact, "it can't possibly be safe until proven otherwise" is how some vapers see vaping.

Well, I just happen to know the long-term effects of smoking. So there.
Unlike you, I do consider vaping "safe" until proven otherwise. Just like my cellphone. :)

Of course, "the dose makes the poison". I do not spend all day talking at my phone, so I'm not overly concerned about "remotely-possibly-brain-cancer-causing radiations". But I do not spend all day vaping either.
 
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