A kick is VW, NOT VV.
I have a ProVari (VV only), I have a Vamo, and I have Zmax (both VV and VW). What do I use? My REO and my Caravela with and without a kick, depending on the juice and the atty. It's NICE to have choices the kick gives me.
Pros and cons of a Mechanical mod????
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A kick is VW, NOT VV.
I have a ProVari (VV only), I have a Vamo, and I have Zmax (both VV and VW). What do I use? My REO and my Caravela with and without a kick, depending on the juice and the atty. It's NICE to have choices the kick gives me.
Thanks for the link. I don't see the need to buy a mechanical mod and then a Kick, when I could just by a VV/VW device like the Vamo. I can see getting a Kick if you already had a mechanical mod. Am I missing something?
The thing with a mechanical mod is that without the kick it's unregulated which means you can throw a genesis atty on it with sub a 1ohm coil and vape. Then when you want to use a vivi nova or carto tank just put in the kick and your good. The problem with vv/vw like a vamo is that you don't have the ability to run super low ohm coils. The other thing with a mechanical is that the chance of breaking one is pretty slim where breaking a vamo or other vv/vw is pretty easy to do except for well built one like the provari those things are tanks. I pretty much stick with my mechanicals I've had the zmax, vamo, lavatube, and several provari's and imo they can't hold a candle to a well made mechanical mod. However what kind of gear you prefer is all subjective so for some people a vv/vw mod is the way to go because you can change your vape with a push of a button and you can vape at any ohm over 1.5ish while still maintaining your perfect wattage level
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You're welcome. Nope you hit the nail on the head. Unless you're working in a dusty/ dirty environment not a buy. When they first came out they were wonderful but have since been eclipsed by newer inexpensive VV/VW models.
For me, I like the idea of a mechanical device for its simplicity and not having electronics that sooner or later will have problems. It can be taken apart etc etc. I also like the look of a mechanical. No LED, no electronic distractions, again thats me. I like a clean sleek look.
I love using a KIck. For me at least the 10 watt limit is fine with me. Im not a "hot" vaper. I make my resistance at 2.7, set my wattage at 8.5 and Im perfectly happy. Yes the battery doesnt last as long, but I get a perfect hit everytime, with no loss in power as I go. I have plenty of batteries.
I can have the freedom to pop the kick in or leave it out.
I love using a KIck. For me at least the 10 watt limit is fine with me. Im not a "hot" vaper. I make my resistance at 2.7, set my wattage at 8.5 and Im perfectly happy. Yes the battery doesnt last as long, but I get a perfect hit everytime, with no loss in power as I go. I have plenty of batteries.
I can have the freedom to pop the kick in or leave it out.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I'm still new at this and it sounds like mechanicals may be an option when/if I need something more advanced. For some reason, I thought "mechanical" would equal "simple"
Choices. I wanted an indestructible PV, buy once and never need to replace like a VV/VW device like the Vamo. Now if ProVari could get their act together and produce a VW, I would have one of those instead of all the other disposables I have like the Vamo and the Zmax. I have PV's that will outlast me, and sure they cost a bit more but I like the idea of paying once for a dependable PV.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I'm still new at this and it sounds like mechanicals may be an option when/if I need something more advanced. For some reason, I thought "mechanical" would equal "simple"
They are simple, and can work as simply as you care to make them! Load one up with a carto tank and 1.5-2ohm carto's and enjoy it! Want to get more advanced, go with an RBA. Either way, it's as simple or as complicated as you wish to make it!
Personally, I don't feel the need for sub-ohm coils, but that's me, but they can run anything you want to run on them, you just have to be a bit more selective about what you use/purchase.
They are prolly the simplest to use PV available. No electronics to wonder about as all parts are very easy to figure out and/ or repair. They will always have a place within the vaping world IMO.
Ok, thanks for the clarification. I'm still new at this and it sounds like mechanicals may be an option when/if I need something more advanced. For some reason, I thought "mechanical" would equal "simple"
Nope considering what was available in Sept 2011
My MM can be broken down to 2 1/2" with a 1300 mah batt...or @ 4 1/4" with a 3000 mah batt
Not if you buy a quality battery as reco'd and tested by the guyz @ the FL Forum.
Using a 3000 mah battery do ya think that might be enuff to last the day? When I was using mine I had a pretty good idea of when the batt was ready to be changed.
With all the diff devices out there right now I really wouldn't buy one. I bought solely for long life, durability and cheap easy repair. I've since moved on to other PVs...I do have a number of converts that are in construction and while at work use an MM because they're durable and can take the dirt, grime and drops/ knocks.
With the drop in the price of VV devices I wouldn't bother with a kick. Just buy one of the latest VV devices available. I was merely giving options as to what could be used with an MM "if" someone wanted VV with an MM.
The reasons I've found vapers, over the years, wanting an MM are:
long batt life- with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
durable
easy to repair
separate batts- again with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
You left out the current #1 reason...
<1.0 Ohm coils
No I haven't...
The reasons I've found vapers, over the years, wanting an MM are:
long batt life- with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
durable
easy to repair
separate batts- again with all the inexpensive VV Tubes out there this is no longer a reason.
Well, Kicks have a use in un-regulated, Non-Mechanical mods, like the Bolt.
Bolt+Kick = <$90
Adding one to a Mech nullifies the benefits of a pure mechanical, but adds regulation for non-rebuildable juice delivery systems... Not sure that's really worth $45.
The upside is, it is removeable... so when you want VW, you have it... when you don't you have a mechanical... Much cheaper than buying a VW device AND a mechanical
I've less than zero interest in blowing the back of my head off with high powered vaping and am a total VW fan but I've picked up a couple of mechanicals in case the FDA decides to get snotty with their upcoming e-cig regulations. I don't have the K-100 I'm getting through a coop yet but it is cheap and attractive. Posts from the few people who have tried them are positive. I got a Kick for that one.
I also have an NHaler Curve/Can combo. The Can is 12 watts as opposed to the Kick's 10 watts and has an exterior button for adjusting watts instead of having to disassemble the mod to change the Kick's watts with a screwdriver.
I also have an NHaler Curve/Can combo. The Can is 12 watts as opposed to the Kick's 10 watts and has an exterior button for adjusting watts instead of having to disassemble the mod to change the Kick's watts with a screwdriver.
But that's my point... no one cares about "over the years"...
All that matters is why someone would want one NOW.
Low Res Coils
Durability
Versatility
Art
Seem like the top reasons currently.
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The Can is neat... too bad it's be ugly as sin on anything but the Curve....
I'd just like to clarify something about the Kick... if you were to set up a mechanical with a kick next to a provari, with the same power settings on both (obviously after converting the provari's volts against the resistance of the atomizer)... will the Kicked device perform as well as the Provari? Better? Worse? or the same?
VV and VW is pretty much the same thing. You know what I meant... are all your mods equipped with the same atty/carto/carto-tank/RBA/RBTA?
The provari as everyone knows is super accurate with it's voltage regulation, however the kick from what I have seen is pretty accurate as well. So to answer your question it works about the same however the kick is fragile and won't last a while if used roughly where the provari will last through almost anything.
Mechanical devices die off in vape experience as the battery does. Off the charger you have a short amount of 4.1 volt vaping that quickly drops to 3.7 then down till its dead. VV can give you 4.2 or higher even with the battery being at 3.7v.
They are very durable if you buy a good one but the only reason they gained huge popularity lately is because of ultra low ohm RBA coils.
I have both and I prefer VV for consistency but mech for always going to work no matter what. Also mechanical mods do break they aren't indestructible it just takes a lot to do it.
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They are very durable if you buy a good one but the only reason they gained huge popularity lately is because of ultra low ohm RBA coils.
I have both and I prefer VV for consistency but mech for always going to work no matter what. Also mechanical mods do break they aren't indestructible it just takes a lot to do it.
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I just picked up a natural. I was wondering what ohm cartomizer i should be using ? I'm currently using a carto/tank with a 2.1ohm LR cartomizer. In the future i plan on getting an AGA-T2, once i learn how to use RBA's.
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