Protank MicroCoil Discussion!!

[MacTechVpr]

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[MacTechVpr]

For info purposes only!

A toothbrush, Q-tip and Peroxicare are my friends.

(Those silly micro-brushes are pretty handy too.)

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[MacTechVpr]

From the thread Tight Wicking for info on cotton comparisons see link just below…

See THIS for some exceedingly useful information on rayon and cotton.

Curious about your experiment and favor the idea of inner cotton feeding a protective and productive outer layer of rayon. However, my experience hasn't been great for rayon with flavor though. Also, the often discarded outer linear cotton pad surfaces of KGD are highly conducive of flow. Whereas the inner fluffy interior of the material saturates extremely well. I use primarily woven ceramic, Nextel 3mm but always have KGD in one thing or another, stripping one side of the padding off usually.

For me, I lightly roll sections with KGD's exterior padding in the center to feed the outer wetter fluffy exterior, stretch it to make the fluffy outside irregular surface as tightly linear as possible. Insert as much as the coil can handle and still permit some slight movement of the wick at its center. To do this and get as much volume of tails as possible, slight twisting and stretching of the wick (rolling) is needed to compress the wick going in. But un-rolling the center then leaves a tight surface of linear fiber within the coil. Tend not to thin tails but leave as much as possible for the deck area available and fluff them to improve permeability and retention. That's it. Works with rayon too.

I'd say, try that experiment using KGD padding and rayon outer fill.

Real care, as I'm sure you know, to not over-wick is needed regardless of material. Too much power for the available flow and you cook or char the juice. Less vapor, less flavor. More wick than needed chokes flow and prematurely clogs media with solids from under-vaporized liquid, i.e. stains and gunks.

A note here — length of tails determines the possible speed or flow. Short tails maximize flow and dry out or effuse quickly. Longer tails limit or constrain flow but increase availability and retention (less leaking, need to drip). The more coil power applied, the longer (or greater) the media needed…up to the limit of the coil Ø.

To sum up, I'd say just enough tight wicking is awesome for a productive balance of both flavor and volume.

Good luck.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Lifted from the thread Geek Vape Aegis Boost RBA coils | Post #8 for reference…

I thinking @MacTechVpr would be one of the best folks to ask when it comes to making your own RBA coils.

Thx M. I've never seen the wisdom of vaping mystery metal winds from even primary makers. Especially when it's so darn easy to strain a virtually perfect coil in seconds. Also, the advantage of then learning to pulse oxide such a Kanthal wind making it super durable far outweigh the imagined savings of using pre-made.

Tehnsioned Contact Micro Coil, MacTechVpr

• MacTechVpr
• Jun 25, 2015
• coil contact tensioned

Happy to assist, as always.

Good luck.

 

[pjmarkert]

I only buy wire from TempCo, made in USA and a very reputable company.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Lifted from the thread 454 big block, Post #7 for your further enjoyment…

That's an old-school looking RDA

Yes but drilled out (a bit of a challenge) it's a great performer for flavor and vapor. It's one of my long time go-to's. Unfortunately, as they would be outstanding BF'er's, no BF pins for these. At the price, can't beat 'em and the fave of quite a few I've turned on to rebuilding. Good all the way down to 23AWGx7 with careful separation from the seating ring.

Tensioned Microcoil, 454 Big Block

• MacTechVpr
• Jul 28, 2020

It takes a vertical which again is a bit of a challenge to wick with RxW but very well worth it. Being a tight installation for wicking it does tend to get a bit soiled in the deck with tobacco flavors. It's possible to lift RxW out and torch the ends to clean however. Typical water wash and dry-fire with a strained wind is short and sweet to return a flavor virtually indistinguishable from a clean install. You know I'm an advocate of ceramic weave.

Like I said for the price and guaranteed rate of return, a reliable investment.

Good luck.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Borrowed from the thread Rebuildable worth the effort? | Post #6…

Don't think so much in terms of rebuilding being about convenience. Once you know how to rebuild you make your own ease of use. Rather consider why it is that you want to vape at all? In the end it's about taking control of what you put in your body, at long last. The enjoyment is the certain wonderful side benefit over the alternatives.

Good luck.

 

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Thanks @MacTecVpr for reminding me:
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So I started Vaping to Stop Poisoning myself with cigarettes.
I was angry at myself, I Gave Power to Things -Objects Over Me! I gave Control over myself my life to things??
I got angry that I was Paying to Make myself Sick & Kill myself.
Then, I was angry that I was killing myself to make some .... wipe wealthy.
Why, What, Where, How, when, did it start?? Aug 6,20 I No More cigarettes

 

[MacTechVpr]

Borrowed from the thread Mesh strip giving random dry hits | #17…

@Ionori, the hotspots will be forming where the wicking isn't contacting the mesh with the same force.

Try more under the mesh next rewicking.

A very very good postulate you allude to, i.e. uneven heat distribution as the cause of over or under-vaporization.

Just sayin.

Twisted Lead Parallel

• MacTechVpr
• Nov 21, 2017
• 1
• tensioned microcoil twisted lead parallel

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[MacTechVpr]

Grateful for you all.

Have a great Thanksgiving, and

Good luck.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Give the gift of life to those you care about — teach them to rebuild.

Put one of these…

Tehnsioned Contact Micro Coil, MacTechVpr

• MacTechVpr
• Jun 25, 2015
• coil contact tensioned

Tensioned micro: 25/7/7 2.75mmØ=0.7995Ω
17.12-22.06W @ 3.7-4.2V (4.63-5.25A) 134-173 mW/mm²

in one of these…

Tensioned Micro Coil, Subtank Mni Base

• MacTechVpr
• Nov 11, 2015
• mactechvpr microcoil tensioned

25x7 @2.7778 mm = 0.805Ω 22.9W (5.2A) 170 mW/mm²

Tensioned Micro Coils. The next step.
Protank MicroCoil Discussion!!

Good luck and Merry Christmas all.


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[MacTechVpr]

From the thread… Tensioned Micro Coils. The next step. Some help on advanced winding…

+1 on the failing eyes. Blind in one, blurred out of the other. The last couple of years that I vaped I only used mesh RDA's and RTA's that were very easy to build even if by brail. So the last time I wrapped any coils was years ago.

I hear you brother. Blurry vision and parallax was and remains one of the main incentives for me to try to find a simpler and effective way to wind a proper coil consistently. Lots of lighting and magnification help but only so much. It's been indispensable for me for some years now. So I don't wind with the regularity that I used to. I go zen on the winds and count turns by feel with a needle. It's proven more accurate when the vision deceives. When conditions are fair I turn out as many as I can so I can try to focus on the mechanics of installation. Unused battery cases full of 'em for those really rainy days.

But the most challenging part is oxidation. You can't avoid monitoring the power level on a variable. Too much voltage or for too long or you'll undo the strain of the wind. Using my iPhone's magnification feature really helps inspect for spot gaps that may be impeding uniformity. You focus compression on that part of the coil 'till they're all pretty. Or as I mentioned earlier, can 'em if not worth the effort.

For my it's a labor of love for my vape. I know the consistency will get me the result I crave. I'm patient. Don't tax myself to frustration. Work on several of 'em at a time when I can. Eventually I get enough of a reserve level that I don't fret about it. I do it for the joy I know is coming. And now, for the certainty that I'll likely not be able to easily find a substitute, if at all.

Best of luck Spydro. Enjoy the vape.

 

[MacTechVpr]

We prioritize knowledge least when the urge is set to hoard.

Tensioned Twisted-lead Parallel for the Subtank

• MacTechVpr
• Feb 4, 2016

We'll be here to assist if what you missed is unattainable.

We hope you bought some wire.

Good luck.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Just a hello and a reminder that we're still here to assist all who want to make the perfect strained vape.

Good luck.

 

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