I agree with everything bar your views on the Istick, they're the modern day equivalent of Ego batteries - use them for a year and toss them.
They're great value disposable mods imo.
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I agree with everything bar your views on the Istick, they're the modern day equivalent of Ego batteries - use them for a year and toss them.
They're great value disposable mods imo.
I suppose the only thing we disagree on is the price point of disposable 
I will spend for quality, I wont spend for throwaway items, lol
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I will spend for quality, I wont spend for throwaway items, lol
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But not to a great many others though. Your are of course entitled to you opinion. For me at least a very compact form factor of the new mini devices combined with very low cost point, good to excellent performance and good battery capacity is starting to outweigh the advantage of a replaceable battery in a much larger device..
You are absolutely correct.
Thats why I specified that it was just my 2 cents
The simple fact that we can have this conversation shows how far vaping has come.
A year or two ago, if you wanted more than 20 watts or so you had to plunk down a chunk of change on a ZNA or buy an iffy chipset and wedge it into a Methos box
Heck, I am getting so spoiled for choice that I want the iStick to be less than $20
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In regards to the Provari, my very first Mod was a Provari 2 that I purchased roughly 3 years ago. I don't use it anymore but it still works to this day. That thing has been beat up so bad, it doesn't even look like a Provari anymore. I dropped it at least 20 times getting out of a Fire Engine which is a 8 foot drop to concrete. The top cap is slightly deformed and the bottom has chunks of aluminum missing but dammit if that thing ever failed me.
That being said, Provari needs to do something in order to keep up with the current market. They need to at least add a 50 watt chip and shrink the form factor a bit more. There are currently better options available for the money.
I will say this however. I've owned nearly 10 mods since buying my Provari 3 years ago and there isn't a single one I think can take as much abuse as my Provari did. Currently I am rotating between an iStick 30 watt and a Xpro-M50. I don't trust either one to take more than a couple drops onto concrete. In fact, I know the iStick can't handle the abuse because my 20 watt version went haywire after being dropped for the 3rd time.
That being said, Provari needs to do something in order to keep up with the current market. They need to at least add a 50 watt chip and shrink the form factor a bit more. There are currently better options available for the money.
I will say this however. I've owned nearly 10 mods since buying my Provari 3 years ago and there isn't a single one I think can take as much abuse as my Provari did. Currently I am rotating between an iStick 30 watt and a Xpro-M50. I don't trust either one to take more than a couple drops onto concrete. In fact, I know the iStick can't handle the abuse because my 20 watt version went haywire after being dropped for the 3rd time.
Jester, I am with you there.
For the price that they charge for the P3, I cant see why they couldnt at least get to 40 watts and retain reliability standards.
My experience with my 2.5's practically mirror yours, and I was disappointed when the P3 specs came out.
Most of the P2 and 2.5 owners I know have either not bought, or went another route.
For the same money, there are extremely reliable mods out there that are more powerful ( i am not convinced that, apart from the ZNA line, they can take the same outright a use that a Provari can. though)
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For the price that they charge for the P3, I cant see why they couldnt at least get to 40 watts and retain reliability standards.
My experience with my 2.5's practically mirror yours, and I was disappointed when the P3 specs came out.
Most of the P2 and 2.5 owners I know have either not bought, or went another route.
For the same money, there are extremely reliable mods out there that are more powerful ( i am not convinced that, apart from the ZNA line, they can take the same outright a use that a Provari can. though)
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Provape aren't about high wattage or crazy sub ohming, they're about consistency and reliability - the fact they've released more colors of the P3 shows that they're having absolutely no problems selling a 20 watt mod in the age of 100+ watt devices.
Don't forget that a lot of us old timers don't tend to go over 15 watts so we're happy - the bulk of vapers still don't sub-ohm anyway.
Don't forget that a lot of us old timers don't tend to go over 15 watts so we're happy - the bulk of vapers still don't sub-ohm anyway.
I use my P3 with a Subtank. Looks like a Delta IV Heavy rocket without boosters, but kinda works.
not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but the DNA 40 mods have made this thing an overpriced dinosaur - the real LUXURY these days is temperature protection - come on Provari, it's time to catch up to 2014! - oh wait it's 2015!
I sold my P3 to upgrade to a Vapor Shark, but would buy a Provari 4 assuming they hurry up and get the Evolv chip in there! - HURRY UP PLEASE!
for those that insist on beautiful form + function - try the Vapor Flask (also DNA 40 based), the new "price is no object" mod.
I sold my P3 to upgrade to a Vapor Shark, but would buy a Provari 4 assuming they hurry up and get the Evolv chip in there! - HURRY UP PLEASE!
for those that insist on beautiful form + function - try the Vapor Flask (also DNA 40 based), the new "price is no object" mod.
Kinda agree, and a DNA40 is among my future buys. However, the matter is no so black-and-white:
1.- Past DNA models had reliability problems.
2.- You need to go Nickel to have temp control. Nickel is more difficult to work with than Kanthal or Nichrome.
3.- One could have a pretty decent vape at less than 20W.
Oh it happened. Believe me, don't believe me, I don't care. ProVape had a chance to impress me and they didn't. Enjoy your overpriced tube, fellas.
Provari wanted to support 18350 batteries, hence the 20W limit. There's no such thing as a 30A 18350 battery that I'm aware off. Those little things can't run 40-50watt devices. Notice none of these high watt devices use anything smaller than a 18650 battery. Provape wanted a high quality, durable and flexible (mulitple battery options) type device and that's exactly what they delivered.
The only way we see a big watt upgrade from them is if they made a 18650 only type tube or box mod. Provape will also never use a chip from evolv. They make their own chips for there own devices.
My provari 2.5 has been through hell and back and still works great.
Before I start sounding like a provari fanboy, I have no plans to buy a P3. I do believe it's a tad to expensive for what it is. The 2.5s were much cheaper and built to the same high quality standards. And I'm really digging compact box mods. I have a hana mini that I been using daily for a few weeks and a vapor shark rdna on the way. The dna40 temp control really intrigues me.
The only way we see a big watt upgrade from them is if they made a 18650 only type tube or box mod. Provape will also never use a chip from evolv. They make their own chips for there own devices.
My provari 2.5 has been through hell and back and still works great.
Before I start sounding like a provari fanboy, I have no plans to buy a P3. I do believe it's a tad to expensive for what it is. The 2.5s were much cheaper and built to the same high quality standards. And I'm really digging compact box mods. I have a hana mini that I been using daily for a few weeks and a vapor shark rdna on the way. The dna40 temp control really intrigues me.
I'm not the type to knock something until I've tried it. That doesn't seem to be the mind set on most of the Provari threads here. I love my Provari one button menu and all.
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I like the P3 menu system, especially how when adjusting the power up or down it gives you the opportunity to adjust it back down or up if you missed your setting.
As for the limited power, I have several mods and was never going to be satisfied with just one, so if I need more watts I use something else.
As for the limited power, I have several mods and was never going to be satisfied with just one, so if I need more watts I use something else.
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I'm sorry you had to purchase a pos vapor shark. Was everything decent sold out?
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