Provari RBA limits?

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I have a Provari v1 and v2 or 2.5. I want to use a kayfun Lite v2 clone on it. What is the lower limit on ohms I can use on them? I use 1.5ohm on a Kanger coil now. Is it feasible to go down to 1.0 ohm with the rba? What are the limits with the Provari. I'm a vet vaper but new to the rba world. Please help :)
 

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Mines couldn't consistently fire with resistances around 1 ohm, I'd recommend to stick with 1.3 ohm or greater.

Note: the ProVari circuit seems to be more efficient with higher resistances, say around 2.5-3 ohm, which translates to longer battery duration.

Bottom line: if you want to go sub-ohm, probably a provari isn't the right device to use.
 

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I haven't charted out the v1, but these are the specs for the v2 & v2.5. It has a 3.5A limit & a 14.5w limit, but they're not hard & fast rules.

VoltageAmperagePowerLowest Resistance
2.93.5010.150.83
33.5010.500.86
3.13.5010.850.89
3.23.5011.200.91
3.33.5011.550.94
3.43.5011.900.97
3.53.5012.251.00
3.63.5012.601.03
3.73.5012.951.06
3.83.5013.301.09
3.93.5013.651.11
43.5014.001.14
4.13.5014.351.17
4.23.5014.701.20
4.33.3714.501.28
4.43.3014.501.34
4.53.2214.501.40
4.63.1514.501.46
4.73.0914.501.52
4.83.0214.501.59
4.92.9614.501.66
52.9014.501.72
5.12.8414.501.79
5.22.7914.501.86
5.32.7414.501.94
5.42.6914.502.01
5.52.6414.502.09
5.62.5914.502.16
5.72.5414.502.24
5.82.5014.502.32
5.92.4614.502.40
62.4214.502.48

The one anomaly is that ProVape claims that at 4.2v it will fire up to 14.7w. But again, these are not hard set rules. It all depends on the tolerances of the components on each circuit board, which can vary from unit to unit. I believe they are tested to be within a +/- 5% tolerance.

Lowest resistance/subohming only really applies to mechs. It's solely for pushing more power out of the device. Since you can adjust the battery output on a regulated device, lowering the resistance isn't the best option to push your device harder. As you can see from the chart, you can actually get more power with a 1.2 ohm coil than you can with a 0.8 ohm coil.
 
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I haven't charted out the v1, but these are the specs for the v2 & v2.5. It has a 3.5A limit & a 14.5w limit, but they're not hard & fast rules.

VoltageAmperagePowerLowest Resistance
2.93.5010.150.83
33.5010.500.86
3.13.5010.850.89
3.23.5011.200.91
3.33.5011.550.94
3.43.5011.900.97
3.53.5012.251.00
3.63.5012.601.03
3.73.5012.951.06
3.83.5013.301.09
3.93.5013.651.11
43.5014.001.14
4.13.5014.351.17
4.23.5014.701.20
4.33.3714.501.28
4.43.3014.501.34
4.53.2214.501.40
4.63.1514.501.46
4.73.0914.501.52
4.83.0214.501.59
4.92.9614.501.66
52.9014.501.72
5.12.8414.501.79
5.22.7914.501.86
5.32.7414.501.94
5.42.6914.502.01
5.52.6414.502.09
5.62.5914.502.16
5.72.5414.502.24
5.82.5014.502.32
5.92.4614.502.40
62.4214.502.48

The one anomaly is that ProVape claims that at 4.2v it will fire up to 14.7w. But again, these are not hard set rules. It all depends on the tolerances of the components on each circuit board, which can vary from unit to unit. I believe they are tested to be within a +/- 5% tolerance.

Lowest resistance/subohming only really applies to mechs. It's solely for pushing more power out of the device. Since you can adjust the battery output on a regulated device, lowering the resistance isn't the best option to push your device harder. As you can see from the chart, you can actually get more power with a 1.2 ohm coil than you can with a 0.8 ohm coil.

Awsome info there. I have a question though. If at 1ohm/12.25w it's drawing 3.5a and at 2.2ohms/14.5w its drawing 2.5a then the latter is actually making more power using less battery life? I'm assuming how much current is being drawn is relative to battery life regardless of power/volts

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Awsome info there. I have a question though. If at 1ohm/12.25w it's drawing 3.5a and at 2.2ohms/14.5w its drawing 2.5a then the latter is actually making more power using less battery life? I'm assuming how much current is being drawn is relative to battery life regardless of power/volts

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Power is specifically Voltage times Current. (Voltage, current, resistance & power are all related, you can mathematically solve any of those four values by using any pair of the remaining, but that doesn't mean it's an accurate description of what they are/how they work - just for clarification)

Since P = E * I, increasing either E (voltage) or I (current) is going to result in a higher amount of power. (P = E * I) = (P/E = I) = (P/I = E), meaning it's all the same equation just written differently. The latter 2 are important since P is a constant in your question. If you raise current, P/I = E, meaning you're drawing at a lower voltage. If you raise the voltage, P/E = I, meaning you're drawing less amps.

So technically, yes, you can raise the voltage, get the same power, all while drawing less amperage.

HOWEVER... this is in a pure state - chalkboard mathematics. We're not accounting for the losses in components or the copper connecting them. Sending 3.7v into a circuit with a 3.7v output is going to have very minimal losses. Sending 3.7v into a circuit with a 6v output is going to have substantially more losses... which is going to eat up some of your current. I don't know how the circuit board is specifically designed or what the losses are. You very easily could be breaking even. The numbers in the chart are simple mathematics, not real world data. No circuit is perfect.

My advice... it's good to understand how this all works, but ultimately it doesn't matter. Try some different coils, try them at different settings, VV or VW, find what you like & vape it.

ETA:

P.S. It was an excellent observation & question, regardless. :) You get 2 points for the day.
 
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