Pretty sure "the masses" still use egos and cigalikes and don't even get on the internet to learn about e-cigs.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Provari, the ax has come for you
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Miniscule? I think the market they suit is actually the vast majority of vapers. Millions of people are reducing or hopefully stopping smoking without ever seeing ECF or stopping in a vape shop. Provari is not for the hobbyists who want the flashiest, biggest or most powerful, which would seem to associate with seeking status among peers. The average vaper wants a trouble free, consistent and simple solution to replace cigarettes. The Provari, while not cheap, does a very good job at that. I expect these people are the ones Provape hopes to draw in over time, the majority.
Within our world of ECF, or hanging out in some vape shops, one could easily come to think most everybody wants more power and more vapor. Posts here are naturally mostly about the newest and more hobbyist branches of vaping, but do not reflect the average vaper at this point, in my opinion. The people who are happy with their setups eventually stop posting much as they have found their "sweet spot", but they are vaping away in large numbers out in the real world.
Miniscule? I think the market they suit is actually the vast majority of vapers. Millions of people are reducing or hopefully stopping smoking without ever seeing ECF or stopping in a vape shop. Provari is not for the hobbyists who want the flashiest, biggest or most powerful, which would seem to associate with seeking status among peers. The average vaper wants a trouble free, consistent and simple solution to replace cigarettes. The Provari, while not cheap, does a very good job at that. I expect these people are the ones Provape hopes to draw in over time, the majority.
Within our world of ECF, or hanging out in some vape shops, one could easily come to think most everybody wants more power and more vapor. Posts here are naturally mostly about the newest and more hobbyist branches of vaping, but do not reflect the average vaper at this point, in my opinion. The people who are happy with their setups eventually stop posting much as they have found their "sweet spot", but they are vaping away in large numbers out in the real world.
But of course I'm talking about the APV market or else we could say Blu and Vuse are the market leaders.
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I would never be able to sell the non-hobbyist, non forum user on a ProVari. I don't know many people who would go more expensive then an iStick and even that's been pushing it with some. Like most products, affordability is the most important aspect to the mainstream consumer.
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Affordability is only a small part imo, mods like the Seven 22,SVD 2.0 etc.. have hit rock bottom prices because nobody's buying them. Seems most are convinced you need high wattage with a sub ohm tank these days , i never vape over 20 watts even with RDA's , i get great performance but the trend is definitely going the other way.
I don't know these 'most people'. People who have money to smoke cigarettes can afford the most expensive mods on the market and still end up saving money. Oddly, they seem to have so many of these inexpensive mods they could have just bought 1 good one...
Ought to be good for 2 Provarii and an atty for sure.YES!
This goes back to keeping ones spouse happy. Not that she could not have bought it for her self, she wanted it but would not spend the money.
One fine example of a mopar product. The 2015 Chrysler 300C
MOPAR used to be just Dodge but now it is dodge/chrysler/jeep [emoji14]
(this buys a ton of vapemail forgiveness btw.)
Wutcha gunna do for joose?
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How many packs of cigs did you smoke a day? What did they cost?
I smokes 2.5 packs a day that equals 17.5 packs w week X 7.50 ea = $131.25 X 2 weeks = 262.50 The price of 1 P3 + 1 pro tank 2.
TO costly I think not.
How many packs of cigs did you smoke a day? What did they cost?
I smokes 2.5 packs a day that equals 17.5 packs w week X 7.50 ea = $131.25 X 2 weeks = 262.50 The price of 1 P3 + 1 pro tank 2.
TO costly I think not.
That's just it. One could buy a new ProVari, atty and vape premium e-liquid and still come out ahead at the end of the month. I think many complaining about cost were never smokers...
I don't buy into the mega wattage mods , not my thing , so i am very happy that i was able to pick up some lower wattage mods that were considered top shelf only about a year ago for cheap $$ .
I think there's a lot of delusion going around on both sides.
It's obvious...
I see the value of a provari... because I've held, used and still own 2.
But for your average person?
It takes a leap of faith or prior knowledge at the very least.
1) there's always the question of value. Anybody puffing an ego needs a charger and 2 batteries at the very least... maybe a 510 tank or atty also.
Imagine being broke and nic fitting trying to decide if you're going to buy something that costs the price of at least 3 cartons of cigs... and questioning how/if it's going to work... or work any better or longer than what you have...
2) market saturation...
I haven't seen a single realistic claim about what's out in the market currently being used yet.
In the wild...
I saw 4 sigelei 150s yesterday alone.
3 isticks in the past week.
3 cigalikes... ever
(One was a buddies. One was being sold at a truck stop. One was at the Blu sponsored smoking section at six flags the summer before last)
NOTHING from provape... ever
So if it's going to be "for the masses" it needs to reach the masses... and the value has to be understood.
Damn shame. Good mods that do tick all the boxes for the masses. It's just hard to convince them they're cheaper than egos in the long run and won't leave you nic fitting with failed garbage.
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Ok, you have made me curious enough that I bought the 2.5 gunmetal special from Provape, and I'll be stalking the mailman....... again 
Congrats!Ok, you have made me curious enough that I bought the 2.5 gunmetal special from Provape, and I'll be stalking the mailman....... again
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Or you could buy a suitable device for a fraction of the cost and pocket the difference. Why do folks think that they have to spend any potential money they'd be saving?
Are you going to take that $8K your saving each year and upgrade your car too? Or might you just save some of that money?
Who would that extreme miniscule group of people be? Cause FTR the 1st time I heard ProVari wasn't here on ECF & I bought mine (2 actually) for no other reason than I wanted to.
This may shock & amaze you but I cloud chase with my 'Vari/s!
I think new vapers should start out on an eGo kit to see if it is for them, then get a ProVari, if they value a mod which will not let them down. From that perspective, cost shouldn't even be a factor, as the lowest priced ProVari kit is equivalent to a couple cartons. They can easily save enough using the eGo kit in a couple months to get a ProVari...
I think the power limits of ProVari are high enough to suit the majority of vapers; the poll proves it...
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