Provari, the ax has come for you

[Thrasher]

On a side note: I have yet to see any chip evolv puts out that's worth a premium.
ell the bugs even killed off their own in house mod the darwin.

Even busardo gave them a thumbs down

 

[tj99959]

Perhaps that was the wrong wording. I guess I just don't see anything that ProVape is doing that justifies a price at or above Evolv or SX350 devices.

All three chips are very premium compared to your typical Sigelei, eLeaf or smok device. With the exception of the "budget" Hcigar dna 40, the device materials and build are top notch. But the downside is, the features of the ProVari are a bit lackluster compared to the competition. I guess I'm just trying to figure out what makes a Provari worth the same price if not more then these other devices besides perception.

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Well, I'm not going to disagree because I do thing the P3 @ $280 was a marketing error. There is just little to no advantage to be had moving from a 15w V2.5 to a 20w P3. Both devices are still aimed at the same market share.

 

[stevegmu]

On a side note: I have yet to see any chip evolv puts out that's worth a premium.
ell the bugs even killed off their own in house mod the darwin.

Even busardo gave them a thumbs down

Even if the chip and board worked well, most are put in PRC boxes, which have their own issues...

 

[Thrasher]

Well, I'm not going to disagree because I do thing the P3 @ $280 was a marketing error. There is just little to no advantage to be had moving from a 15w V2.5 to a 20w P3. Both devices are still aimed at the same market share.

Sort of, at the time p3 was designed everyone was complaining for a vw provari, swearing up and down, I'd buy a provari if it only had vw

DNA 20 was still "it" and the watt wars didn't start yet. They gave everyone exactly what they asked for but 50 w boxes were out by release

 

[SissySpike]

Perhaps that was the wrong wording. I guess I just don't see anything that ProVape is doing that justifies a price at or above Evolv or SX350 devices.

All three chips are very premium compared to your typical Sigelei, eLeaf or Smok device. With the exception of the "budget" Hcigar DNA 40, the device materials and build are top notch. But the downside is, the features of the ProVari are a bit lackluster compared to the competition. I guess I'm just trying to figure out what makes a Provari worth the same price if not more then these other devices besides perception.

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While I realy like my high wattage boxes I do not think they will take the kind of beating my Provari has. I have 2 one has blue LED and is home for the Zatty pro with blue orings. The other has been dropped more times than I can count. used hard and still works. I just dont think any other regulated mod can claim to be as rugged as the Provari.

 

[WillyZee]

I guess I'm just trying to figure out what makes a Provari worth the same price if not more then these other devices besides perception.

I am pretty sure I read about how you like your Kayfun4 clones very much Oberon75 ... I would bet, if you built one of those and popped it on a Provari P3 with the Boost set to 3 and vaped it around 17watts ... you may still not agree to paying the price they cost ... however, I bet you would say it is a pretty awesome vape on the Kayfun 4.

 

[TFL!]

FOR ME
This is what makes the P3 worth every nickel they charge for it.
(Copied from their web site)
All three battery sizes can be used with the P3) (18350,18500,18650

• The ProVari™ 3 voltage can be adjusted from 2.9 - 6.0 in 0.1 volt increments.
• The ProVari™ 3 wattage can be adjusted from 3 – 20 in 0.2 watt increments.
• Flat top design provides a clean hybrid look with the latest tanks.
• The new P3 thread is a unique top connection which allows you to adapt multiple tanks including 510, Ego and P3 threaded tanks. As new connections become available, the P3 will be able to adapt with screw-in adapters. Ego style adapters are sold separately. As new tanks are developed with the P3 thread, they will adapt for a clean hybrid look.
• Self-adjusting center contact pin ensures maximum compatibility with tanks and atomizers.
• Built-in sealed OLED display with scrolling icon-based graphics allows you to visually adjust your settings.
• Each device has a unique digital serial number.
• A translucent seven color lighted push button acts as a low battery alert and allows you to select from seven color choices when the button is pressed. There is also a random option which rotates through all seven colors each time you press the button.
• On/Off mode allows you to shut the unit off completely.
• 16 second safety cutoff turns off the unit if the button is held down for too long.
• HotShot™ Boost mode allows you to get more vapor with a short power boost with each puff. This setting is adjustable allowing you to dial-in your favorite boost time setting.
• Scrolling OTS (Onboard Troubleshooting System) keeps the user informed of any problems and how to resolve them with clear instructions.
• Sub-ohm capability - down to .5 ohms (Version 38, shipping as of 05/05/2015)
• Amperage limit of up to 6.5 amps will protect against over-current situations.
• Battery “mileage gauge” tells you how much energy is available to the atomizer.
• Smart safety features provide the highest levels of safety available on any device in the world. If you press the button and can vape, it’s safe!
• Thermal monitoring shuts the device off if it detects a high temperature condition.
• IQ™ (Input Quality) monitor provides feedback on the condition of your battery and connections. This never before seen feature not only can test your batteries, but also alert you if there is a problem with one of your cells. Battery safety is very important to us!
• Left & Right handed mode allows the user to select which way the display reads.
• Check All mode allows the user to see all their critical settings at a quick glance with one button press (adjustable settings).
• Save profile - Save all of your favorite settings into 5 available memory slots for quick recall.
• Scroll speed adjust allows the user to select the speed of the scrolling menu.
• OLED brightness adjustment lets you vary the display intensity.
• Exclusive reliable and safe electronic switch is designed for long life.
• Battery Monitoring shuts the unit off once a battery has reached end-of-charge.
• Reverse battery protection keeps the circuit safe if the battery is accidentally installed backwards.
• The P3 is compatible with flat top batteries.
• No compromise components ensures a high quality and reliable device.
• Proudly made in the USA.
• 1 Year Warranty: Excludes accessories like batteries and atomizers.
• 3.5” L x 0.90” D without atomizer.
• The P3 has the capability to have its internal firmware upgraded via an external programmer that we will be offering to participating authorized resellers. This significant NEW capability will allow future planned updates and features to be added over the life of the P3.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Perhaps that was the wrong wording. I guess I just don't see anything that ProVape is doing that justifies a price at or above Evolv or SX350 devices.

All three chips are very premium compared to your typical Sigelei, eLeaf or Smok device. With the exception of the "budget" Hcigar DNA 40, the device materials and build are top notch. But the downside is, the features of the ProVari are a bit lackluster compared to the competition. I guess I'm just trying to figure out what makes a Provari worth the same price if not more then these other devices besides perception.

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drop any evolv, sx or any other of those chip mods in a toilet.....dry it off and see how long it works. (evolv and yihi mods are among my favorite regulated mods, btw). Or, drop any of them off a building...(i had a p 2.5 survive a 5 story fall).....
The issue isn't who can stuff the most watts in a box. That's what you don't seem to understand.

 

[stevegmu]

Some will just always think more power and inexpensive prices equal better...

 

[SissySpike]

Some will just always think more power and inexpensive prices equal better...

I guess its what each person places value on. There are lots of people who would take a car that looks cool and has good sounds over my well used F250 4WD that is mechanically sound. But thats ok I can climb the embankment or do a Uie in over or threw the median and get out of the traffic jam while they look on annoyed in their pretty cars.

 

[caramel]

drop any evolv, sx or any other of those chip mods in a toilet.....dry it off and see how long it works. (evolv and yihi mods are among my favorite regulated mods, btw). Or, drop any of them off a building...(i had a p 2.5 survive a 5 story fall).....
The issue isn't who can stuff the most watts in a box. That's what you don't seem to understand.

Well I wouldn't vape something taken out of the toilet anyway

 

[Oberon75]

Some will just always think more power and inexpensive prices equal better...

Except I'm not exactly talking about watts or else I would be rating a low end Sigelei 150 over a DNA 40.

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[tj99959]

I guess its what each person places value on. There are lots of people who would take a car that looks cool and has good sounds over my well used F250 4WD that is mechanically sound. But thats ok I can climb the embankment or do a Uie in over or threw the median and get out of the traffic jam while they look on annoyed in their pretty cars.

@ 74 & on fixed income, I'm one of those that can get a dimes worth of use out of a penny.

So I'll just say that I valued the quality of my Provaris' enough to have bought another one.
AND, the best PV ever made is still ..... more than one ....

 

[SissySpike]

Well I wouldn't vape something taken out of the toilet anyway

That depends on whoes toilet. In certain circles a Provari dropped in a famous or notable persons toilet with authenticating documentation might command a high price.

 

[Oberon75]

drop any evolv, sx or any other of those chip mods in a toilet.....dry it off and see how long it works. (evolv and yihi mods are among my favorite regulated mods, btw). Or, drop any of them off a building...(i had a p 2.5 survive a 5 story fall).....
The issue isn't who can stuff the most watts in a box. That's what you don't seem to understand.

Perhaps however an SX Mini or DNA 40 is also much heavier then a Provari and will have a much harder impact. I could see a lighter cylinder taking much less of am impact since a box will fall like a brick.

As for water resistance? Those devices might not be but my low end IPV2S is as shown in P4Y's introduction video. I use mine while boating and swimming.

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[Asbestos4004]

Perhaps however an SX Mini or DNA 40 is also much heavier then a Provari and will have a much harder impact. I could see a lighter cylinder taking much less of am impact since a box will fall like a brick.

As for water resistance? Those devices might not be but my low end IPV2S is as shown in P4Y's introduction video. I use mine while boating and swimming.

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ummmm.....ok, oberon. That must be it. Happy boating! Gonna be a busy weekend out on the waters!!!

 

[stevegmu]

Of course, heavier means better. The Ti ProVaris just fall apart when dropped...

 

[Asbestos4004]

Well I wouldn't vape something taken out of the toilet anyway

I agree 100%....but in the days of the ProVari vs. xxx days a year or so ago, the ProVari in the toilet was a pretty powerfun argument. I forget who did it, but there was a guy who did it on purpose after another member did it by accident. I just figured I'd blow the mothballs off of that old story.

 

[Oberon75]

Of course, heavier means better. The Ti ProVaris just fall apart when dropped...

Nobody said heavier means better. There you go again, Steve. Making things up to be right. I'm pretty sure I rated all three pretty comparable in material quality. The Provari just comes up short with a lot of features which should remove some of that cost in a competitive market. And it's not just watts like you apparently assume.

But then again, people are willing to pay $500 for a metal mech tube and a switch which is exactly the same as a $30 clone.

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[Thrasher]

Stiiiiiiiil going