I got my zap today. It works great with the mini. I have the extender and 18490s. Can't tell you about battery life yet. But I was getting a full 24hr day per with my vivi novas. The zap will be more power hungry I'm sure, not a worry I have 4 batteries to rotate.
Provari vs. Provari Mini...............
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Bottom line is temperature at coil. Too much watts with not enough wicking (burnt taste) is as bad as too much wicking with not enough watts (flooding). Go figure !
I've been using the DID atomisers for several months now and not noticed any difference in battery life from when I used boges+tank.
I bet that ZAP looks great on your mini !
It is a thing of beauty. I get about 10 hours of actual time at my vape pace with it. Pushing my provari a bit hard. At times I'm tickling the amperage limit by .1 volt. ( hitting 15 watts ) no primer puff needed here. My average draw is only about 3 seconds, any more results in huge billowing clouds ( as If they weren't huge and billowing enough.)
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Thanks mags for this topic, it was JUST what I wanted to ask and I'm coming from nearly the same setup as you. Too bad I went back and forth 10 times just listening to everyone's reasons, lol!
In the end, I think the raindrops are nicer looking, and I prolly will use some gigantic stuff on it as well, so I'm going mini!
In the end, I think the raindrops are nicer looking, and I prolly will use some gigantic stuff on it as well, so I'm going mini!
no worries here bro, sorry if I jumped the gun and hadn't caught that line you posted...I was never a "remove and replace" tech...I worked for all but one, small companies and had to troubleshoot to component level and no offense taken there too, as I know many pc techs are usually just that, as well...
as for the choice between a mini and standard 'vari, ya gotta go with what you're going to be more comfortable or what will be more practical for you both operate the same, so it will be the battery longevity vs size factor and weight for determining which ya want... I have each version and use em both... my standard @ home, my mini when I'm out and about...
both operate the same, so it will be the battery longevity vs size factor and weight for determining which ya want... I have each version and use em both... my standard @ home, my mini when I'm out and about...
We ended up going with the Minis. I had three at one time of the original v1 Provaris and I used the 18650 batteries in them and I could get a day and a half with one battery.
I am good to go as long as a 18490 will last me 12 hours which I think it will. I also like the looks of the mini better with the scallops and with it being shorter having a tank on it won't make it too long.
I am good to go as long as a 18490 will last me 12 hours which I think it will. I also like the looks of the mini better with the scallops and with it being shorter having a tank on it won't make it too long.
Thank you for pages 1, 6 and 7; although it is noted in the first page that the electronics are the same, I recall someone saying their mini was more sensitive- based on the discussion, I assume that I should take that to be due to his sample and not as an attribute of minis in general?
My present charger will do 18500 and 18650 to use the 18500 do I need a extenshion cap or is the 18490 & 18500 the same size ?
It's basically the same size; 18500 is literally 1 mm taller than an 18490. For reference, the first 2 numbers are diameter, the second two numbers are height, and the 5th number denotes shape. An 18490 is 18 mm across, 49 mm tall, and round (0), while an 18500 is 18 by 50 mm, round. If any of that was incorrect, please correct me.
Provape markets the V2 version as taking 18490 / 18500 iirc.
Provape markets the V2 version as taking 18490 / 18500 iirc.
The mini is really mini... but I love it
Looks larger in videos though
I've noticed that most of the devices look much larger on the internet / pics / vids than when I actually see them in person. Difficult to get a sense of the scale when no one uses standard items to compare them, and you never know how big someone's hands are. I was blown away when I saw a cobra in person this past weekend, easily only half as big as I thought it was.
i got a shock when i saw how small the mini was, i thought it would be longer and wider
the mini with a 3ml carto tank was just as tall as a 1000mah ego twist!!
Actually, that is incorrect. Oddly enough, if you adjust for the same exact wattage, the amperage, or battery usage, will be greater on the lower resistance. Lets check it out. Lets say you want to vape 10 watts and have a 1.5 ohm coil. You would set your voltage for 3.87 volts to get that 10 watts. Your amperage, or battery drain, would be 2.58 amps. Now, lets say you have a 3.0 ohm coil, and want that same 10 watts. You would set your voltage for 5.47 volts. You amperage, or battery current drain, would only be 1.83 amps. You can see the signifigantly lower amperage. This has nothing to do with vaping, cartomizers, or anything. It is simply the nature of Ohm's Law, the nature of electricity. When people say lower resistance drain batteries, it is not just because it pulls more power, but when is equal, the higher resistance will be more efficient. Check out an ohm calculator, play around with it, so see how it works. It is pretty interesting. Thanks.
It may seem like that, but we are talking about battery as source of power. The real measure of power consumption is measured in Watts, not mah. On the case of adjustable voltage/watt is quite different. It is too long of an explanations, but something you could do some research yourself. Hint: 3.7v ZMax upregulated to 6.00v the drain will be almost twice...
Yeah, that is a good point, watts are the truest measure of power drain. There is a difference in vape time though when you factor in how efficiently the dc to dc converter is working. However that is not something I know enough about. But if you look at some specs of power supplies, sometimes you will see the efficiency rated higher at lower current draws. But I don't know if that applies. Did you see Vapor Chase's YouTube video on the lower amp draw? He and i both see some improved vape time with higher resistances, but it is not as big a difference as the amps would suggest. Basically I'm saying you are right. It is possible to change your battery at six amps when the charger's power supply is only rated for four amps, but you can't surpass the watt rating, for example.
i got a shock when i saw how small the mini was, i thought it would be longer and wider
the mini with a 3ml carto tank was just as tall as a 1000mah ego twist!!
Likewise, but I am loving it!
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