Ohhh... I didn't realize you needed decent batteries and a charger with the "magical" Provari.
Of course you do, but I thought we'd moved on to something under 100.00???My apologies if I misunderstood,,,,,,
Provari worth it?
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Of course you do, but I thought we'd moved on to something under 100.00???My apologies if I misunderstood,,,,,,
I apologize for coming off as snarky... I responded a bit too quickly, and I could of chosen a better response.
Right. That's my point. You're pretending that Chinese APV's can't perform on the same level, which is a lie. That's the problem with a lot of these Provari threads. People like to pretend that their magic stick mysteriously outperforms cheaper APV's. If you just said that they're well built, made in the USA and have a warranty, that would be great. Instead you insult a whole country while bull....ting the OP.
This doesn't happen in RDA threads. Somebody asks for a good performing RDA and somebody suggest an IGO L. Somebody might chime in and tell the OP they should think about a Patriot because they have better craftsmanship, are made in America and are durable. They don't pretend that the Patriot can magically outperform the cheap Chinese RDA. Mech's are the same way too. Somebody wants a reliable, good hitting mech and people will suggest a K100. Caravela owners don't jump and pretend their Caravela magically outperforms the K100. They might say it looks better, has better threads and has a better switch. They don't make up stories about magical voltage drops.
I don't have any issue with you as a poster. I'm not calling you a liar. You're a far better poster than me. I think it's a general trend. A couple months ago, a poster told a noob a Provari hits like a Malboro Red and an MVP hits like a Malboro Ultra Light. You and I both know that's a load of crap. The worst part was all the people that backed that poster up.
So now you need a 30 amp battery for a resistance that's drawing 5.25 amps? Even when the battery isn't under continuous load?
Thing is I'm not pretending, I'm completely serious. I totally stand by my conviction that China doesn't make a PV that performs as well as a Provari. Tests on an oscelloscope proves the pulse currents of a Provari are different than the rattlesnake makers. And certainly none of those Chinese manufacturers can provide the support of a company like Provape does. That's one of the major reasons to own a Provari - the outstanding customer support. If China made a comparable mod to a Provari, I would acknowledge that. But they never have, and likely never will. That's not been the Chinese business philosophy. Their motto has been build it cheap, they'll buy it cheap; should it break, they'll buy another.
Have you actually owned a Provari? If not, then you couldn't possibly understand. If you have and didn't love it, then you were one of the very few who didn't "get it". You should have gotten nearly as much for it used as you purchased it for new.
I've vaped a couple dozen different models of PV's, and own several different models myself, and none of them provide the smoother vape of a Provari. I don't recommend anything that I have not owned and tried over the course of time. Whether it is a Provari, an MVP, IBTanked cartotanks, Ikenvape cartomizers, or whatever. There are probably hundreds of ECF members who trust my opinions and often copy what I use. I can't recall a single one who have regretted my recommendations.
I spend as much time on this forum as anyone, and I don't recall the thread you were referring to about the Provari hitting like a Marlboro Red and an MVP hitting like a Marlboro Ultra Light. That sounds like a noob saying something like that so consider the source. I'd never compare any PV with "hitting" like an analog. How ridiculous would that be?
I have no issues with anyone on this forum. Everyone has their own opinion whether that is from personal experience or from what they have read or heard from others. My goal is to help others through my knowledge and experience. I do that the best way that I know how. I do my best to be unbiased. I'm sorry if you don't agree with my opinions, but nothing that I have used compares or even comes close to a Provari. It's a relatively unique PV that stands way above the others.
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I tend to be a prepper and think having a provari on hand might come in handy one of these days, because of the build quality. Doubt I would buy 10 of them cause they just aren't that good looking unless your into vibrators. I think they should up their game and get vw and get some type of sleek looks. Those silly circles are just too much and the latest colors are worse.
Interesting you say that about the colors. I really like both the red/black combo and the white/black.
I look at it this way. If you are unhappy with y what you are using to vape with, then maybe you should look into one. I am happy with my spinners, mech clone, and svd.
Why do I need a provari?
If I wasn't happy then maybe I would look at them.
Why do I need a provari?
If I wasn't happy then maybe I would look at them.
It is indeed worth it in my opinion. I have one and considered a second one but I am now looking for a dna device so I can have those higher watts and lower ohm builds. I am not a fan of mech mods at all and I love the display on the dna devices. Even after I find my dna device, my provari will probably still be my goto device. In the war against analogs, you can't afford to have something crap out on you in the middle of the day. I completely trust my provari to give me what I am after. This is also why I prefer to buy new cars over used cars.. Buying a new car is a terrible financial decision and I know that.. But I get piece of mind and know that when I need to drive somewhere, I don't have anything to worry about and that's the way I want to vape. No worries of failure
Do I feel that it is a bit outdated? Sure.. Do I wish Provape would create a dna30 type device that puts out more power and fires lower ohms? You betcha! Am I perfectly happy with my "outdated" prover? Oh yeah
All in all I am a firm believer that you get what you pay for in all aspects of life and vaping is no exception. If you look into the prices of dna devices and even mech mods, a provari is on par and in some cases cheaper.
I am by no means a provari "fan boy" and I can only judge something if I have used it myself and from everything I have used, noting comes close to the quality of my provari. It all comes down to quality.
Do I feel that it is a bit outdated? Sure.. Do I wish Provape would create a dna30 type device that puts out more power and fires lower ohms? You betcha! Am I perfectly happy with my "outdated" prover? Oh yeah
All in all I am a firm believer that you get what you pay for in all aspects of life and vaping is no exception. If you look into the prices of dna devices and even mech mods, a provari is on par and in some cases cheaper.
I am by no means a provari "fan boy" and I can only judge something if I have used it myself and from everything I have used, noting comes close to the quality of my provari. It all comes down to quality.
Thank you Baditude. I was one of the ones you helped,with your advice. I have had my Provari for 8 months now and have not had one problem. I don't own a bunch of mods and have only used the Blu,Egos and Vamo. I have vaped for 3 years and been off Cigs since April 2011. I consider myself a noob,as I have not experimented with every product on the market,I don't have that kind of money. I needed a device that worked and was reliable and I found that with the Provari. It was 179.00 and the best money I have ever spent. I spent 250.00 a month on Cigs. 179.00 on one Provari,oh and I'm still using the same 2 IMR Batts. that I got with it. Not one problem with it,so I would say that was money well spent. I want to buy another Provari,in 2014. I don't know why,but the only answer I can give myself,is I can not be without it. If I did have to send it in for repair,I would need a back up,so reason enough.
I have been vaping for over three years and used a variety of mods from cig a likes, egos, genesis hybrids, mechanicals and pro vari. I recently just purchased another pro vari as I love the Bronze color. If you are looking to purchase a quality mod with a longer battery life than the Ego style, the pro vari would be a good option. It's an investment but the customer support is fabulous, if you have any issues they will repair it and as stated above if you choose to sell it you can get close to your purchase price back.
Worth and value is subjective, hence you're gonna get a lot of differing opinions. Only you can make that decision whether or not it's worth it. Unfortunately, IMO, for you to fully get a satisfying answer to that question, you need to either own one or borrow one for long term use - And there's the rub, to find out it'll cost you $179.00+ or you'll need a really good buddy that'll lend you their ProVari for an extended period of time.
I have 3 ProVari mini's ... are they my favorites? ... definitely not.
Do I enjoy them? ... I absolutely do.
Are they worth it to me? ... absolutely not.
Why do I have 3? ... because I can afford it and they have really good resale value.
IMHO, reading some of the opinions of members on this forum about ProVari's will likely confuse you more. I've copied and pasted a response from a similar thread about ProVari's v.s. ________ (fill in the blank) ... and it's true, they do tend to end up like this:
OP: "I'm looking to upgrade from _____. My budget is below (insert price usually at least $75-$100 bucks below the cost of a Provari)"
Provarinati #1 (usually within post #3): "Get a Provari."
MVP/Zmax/SID/SVD/VTR/VAMO owner: "Provari's are over-rated."
Provarinati #2: "Typical. EVERYTIME the haters just HAVE to chime in. Let them, they are just jealous and envious. Warranty, solid, USA USA USA, warranty, USA. You just don't get it 'till you hold it. People be hating."
Provarinati #3: "My Provari turned water into wine. Warranty, solid, USA USA USA, warranty, USA. You don't understand..."
Provarinati #4: "I thought I couldn't have children, but after I got my Provari I am expecting!!! USA! USA! Warranty, USA!"
MVP/Zmax/SID/SVD/VTR/VAMO owner: "Provari's are over-rated. They don't have VW. The Provari Mini is a $200 700mAh rip-off"
Provarinati #5: "Hater! VW is over-rated!"
Provarinati #6: "700mAh may get you 50% less vape time than a $25.00 1300mAh VV eGo twist, but what your not comprehending is that Provari Mini's are forged from the tears of Chuck Norris. USA!!!"
Provarinati #7: "You don't get it, man. You have to hold it."
OP: "I don't understand..."
The bottom line is, take whatever responses are posted in this thread with a grain of salt ... including my own.
One of the Better Post I have read - at any time - on the subject of the Provari.
Now, I have been misunderstood in my post - I'm not so literary as many here. My thoughts may not reach Type in a properly understandable manor.
That Said, I do not speak ill of the Provari and need no lectures on its Quality. I need no lessons on manufacturing practices or company Values. Certainly do not need speeches on USA Quality.
< Quality comes from a companies standards, not a countries> Manufacturing is Driven by those standards.
ProVape, Not Provari has earned the credit for the Quality of the Device. Only by their determination to maintain the Best possible built product has the Provari maintained its reputation.
Now, Do I think Provari should be updated - NO
{huh,who,why,what?.................Did He just say that?} - Yes
Provari is the way it is because it was designed to be that way period.
It's only True update was the increased amp limit. A reasonable and responsible update to offer more flexibility.
So, what is my pet peeve in all this?
Really I have 2
#1 and of much less importance - I would like very much to See Provape, a Company driven to offer the very Best, consider broadening their product line. (no I don't think we need 20-30 different toys)
I would like very much to see a device made to offer many of the features from our ever evolving market.
A totally separate piece standing on its own merit and offering a choice to the Consumer.
#2 - Just once, I like to see responsible Provari owners that post on this forum ask that those of more condescending nature make an attempt to be a bit more respectful of other members and other members right to choices they have made based on their own reasons.
Respectfully, those types have made - Just buy a Provari - a less than desirable Tag Line often dropped just to see what will happen next and rarely in a effort to assist.
What does "get it" even mean? I own 3 ProVari's and they're not my favorites ... does that mean I don't "get it"?
Honestly, IMO, too many people watched that ProVari YouTube video by Phil Busardo and now preach it like it's gospel.
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