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I couldn't live with AP!!! Ok ok technically, I could. I add it to most of my tobaccos. At first, I thought it was gross, but it really enhances the flavors.

Dang, just ordered more flavors today, and a Vision Spinner, and ...
Blew my wad for the month, have to wait till next month now, unless I can think of something else I really don't need.
 

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So many great recipes and hints in this thread. Maybe someone could share some tips on throat hit. Other than raising the PG ratio, are there substances or flavors that be added to accomplish this? Thanks.

Here is an EASY way to replicate throat hit easily, cheaply, consistently & safely...no matter what base, flavor or level of nicotine is used!

Start with this (a bottle will last a lifetime): HEAT by Flavorwest

Thoroughly mix 5 drops of HEAT into 10ml of VG...and then use that blend at 2% (for starters). There's no taste at all; no need for filtering, no fuss - no muss...just plain ole TH (that you can easily adjust, control & duplicate).

What we call "throat hit" is nothing more than simple irritation. Capsaicin from peppers has been used for decades (in stronger amounts) to cause people to cough 'predictably' for medical testing, etc.

From here: Safety of capsaicin cough challenge testing

...RESULTS:

One hundred twenty-two published studies since 1984 described 4,833 subjects (4,374 adults, 459 children) undergoing capsaicin cough challenge, with no serious adverse events reported. Subjects included healthy volunteers as well as patients with asthma, COPD, pathologic cough, and other respiratory conditions. Minor complaints described in a small fraction of studies consisted mainly of transient throat irritation. Personal communication with the authors of > 90% of the studies confirmed an absence of any serious adverse events. Furthermore, these investigators have performed thousands of additional capsaicin challenge studies not reported in the literature, also without any associated serious adverse events.

CONCLUSIONS:

A review of the 20-year clinical experience has failed to uncover a single serious adverse event associated with capsaicin cough challenge testing in humans...

WOOHOO!

Also, FA's Black Pepper adds a nice lil' zing of TH. It's an incredibly versatile flavor (particularly when used in small amounts). Black pepper is very 'traditional' in certain locations with fruits. Many people liberally douse various fruits and fruit salads with freshly ground black pepper. (We use it at .5% for a decided black pepper taste that doesn't totally overwhelm the recipe). We've got one we're calling "Iced Pipurri Lakrits" (icy-hot pepper licorice) in the testing phase now.
 

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Just ordered...VG from Bullcity, to see if I notice the difference from Wizard Labs' VG like wllmc did with the PG.

finally getting...FA Clove to see if it will replace my TFA Pumpkin Spice that I usually use for clove flavoring

took a chance on...FA Blackberry (yeah, I went there, lol) to see if it's as horrible as the first time I tried. Knock wood, if anything leaks in the mail, it's not this!

had to get... MORE FA Irish Cream! I vape it, put it in coffee, mix it in vanilla-flavored almond milk, make chocolates with it. Ice cream next. mmm-hmmm. More Cocoa, more Vienna Cream, a few others.

since nobody was looking... Added some of Capella's new custard 'version 2'. For $1.15, why not taste for myself if they still have custard note ingredients.

actually searched for... a TFA flavoring that shall-not-be-named. Decided against that one anyway. If I can't talk about it here, what's the fun in vaping it. Thought about FA Reggae Nights, but decided I was just in a goofy mood.

weirdest flavor on the way...Flavor West Rice Krispies. I swore off the company, but my curiosity on this one is just too strong. If it's really rice flavor, it might be great in a horchata recipe. If it smells like diacetyl, well, $1.15 won't break the bank.

Reggae Nights tastes NOTHING like the name implies. It's strong pine with all manner of 'wet sock/herb' undertones.
 

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Hey y'all. Who are NF and FE? I want that oatmeal cookie!!

For throat hit, if the Flash doesn't work out for you, or the FA flavors that HIC mentioned, you can get Capsicum Heat from Flavor West. NOW... with that said, I got it for exactly that reason. Throat Hit. As it turns out, everything I've mixed so far has a fine TH for me. I ordered this before I ever mixed anything and have yet to use it. If you do get it, I would certainly mix a dilution of it and use a very tiny amount, still, or even the famous "toothpick dip and twirl". Everything I've read about it, including the warning it has with it, tells how it is HEAT. Not something to vape on it's own (Jimi D has a YouTube video of it, lol). I don't care if you're the kind of person that can eat 12 ghost chili peppers without blinking an eye!

Last night, something I was vaping could have used more TH. I'm thinking about adding it to something when I have time to mix this weekend, just so I'll have better info on how to use it exactly. I may start with 0.5 (or less) to 1 ml in a 10ml PG solution. I asked Ben from Pure Vapes when I saw him in the vape shop one time what they use, he said Capsicum Heat. This was long before I started DIY.

Just be safe. :)

This has been a public service announcement from Huckleberried.

See the post I just posted for more details (#2672): put 5 drops of Heat in 10ml of VG, and use that at 2% for starters :)
 

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Ya its onecthat has always frustrated me the smell is amazing but the flavor is so light I barley taste it. With VT nic I can taste it now. Tried itv real high at 4% just to see if the flavor gets that over flavored Taste. Not there now added 2% vienna cream on top of that and still awesome. I normally don't mix just 2 flavors that high but like Hic said earlier it seems you could go higher if you wanted to with VT ill go back to my normal range I'm sure but this is really good

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Glad you got some! I'm really not exaggerating when I say that VT nic is like upgrading your whole box of flavors at once. FA Vanillas are all so tasty plain. I'll bet that new Capella's Custard tastes better with it, too. I'll know in a few days!

I'm so easily entertained. That rickroll guy cracks me up!
 

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Hey HIC, on your Cafe Mocha Clone you have TFA Caramel Cappuccino @ 5%. My question because I dont have it is, could one replicate it pretty close by using 2.5% of FA Cappuccino and 2.5% FA Caramel? Also I notice you have 10% FA Cocoa? That seems high for you!

It is high! Really high! It's a clone of Halo's liquid, and they use LOTS of flavoring. They're kind of known for their flavor intensity. I like my clone and real Halo liquid at half-strength, but if you want to taste it like Halo makes it, you gotta be heavy-handed.

Nope on the FA Caramel. That TFA Caramel Capp can't be duplicated with FA or any other flavors. It's super strong for one - at least 5 times the strength of FA Caramel - and it's extremely sweet. With the heavy load of Cocoa, you need all that to get the Halo flavor. TFA Caramel Capp is SO strong, I vape it plain at a single drop per 5ml. So now you can imagine what 5% of it will taste like. Major Flavor Blast, Halo style ;)

(If you never vaped Halo, make a small batch. It is a very good clone of the real thing, but if you don't like the real thing, I'd hate for you to use up all your FA Cocoa!)

edit: rereading this it sounds like I'm saying it's not tasty. It is! Used to be the one I thought I could never live without - that's why I cloned it. Totally worth making, but go small so you can dilute it if it's too much flavor for you.
 
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It is high! Really high! It's a clone of Halo's liquid, and they use LOTS of flavoring. They're kind of known for their flavor intensity. I like my clone and real Halo liquid at half-strength, but if you want to taste it like Halo makes it, you gotta be heavy-handed.

Nope on the FA Caramel. That TFA Caramel Capp can't be duplicated with FA or any other flavors. It's super strong for one - at least 5 times the strength of FA Caramel - and it's extremely sweet. With the heavy load of Cocoa, you need all that to get the Halo flavor. TFA Caramel Capp is SO strong, I vape it plain at a single drop per 5ml. So now you can imagine what 5% of it will taste like. Major Flavor Blast, Halo style ;)

(If you never vaped Halo, make a small batch. It is a very good clone of the real thing, but if you don't like the real thing, I'd hate for you to use up all your FA Cocoa!)

edit: rereading this it sounds like I'm saying it's not tasty. It is! Used to be the one I thought I could never live without - that's why I cloned it. Totally worth making, but go small so you can dilute it if it's too much flavor for you.

Well shoot! I already have all the flavors in there except the cocoa,caramel,cappuccino. Oh! and I added TFA Whipped Cream for some sweet (4%) I think Imma gonna sub CAP Caramel for the FA Caramel. Waddaya think?
 
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Ok ill stop after this lol. Got banana because I needed it keep forgetting to re order. Max blend because of your updated review and rice Krispies lol. Vape mail!!

I was going to say you forgot the Whiskey - but they don't list it.
How about Captain Crunch? Lol! I didn't go there.
 

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I was going to say you forgot the Whiskey - but they don't list it.
How about Captain Crunch? Lol! I didn't go there.

TFA has cereal flavors now in their "wholesale" line, including Rice Crunchies (Rice Crispies) and Fruity Circles (Froot Loops). Don't know if there's more to come, but I've tried the RC and it's not bad, but like the versions from FW and OOO, it's sorta weak. I bumped it to 10-15% to get the desired result.

Forewarning, the one from OOO has custard notes and based on tasting, so does FW. Comparing it to TPA's, they too are using "something."
 

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I had the opportunity to try about 8-9 new (to me) flavors from FA today and I have to say, most of them are pretty good. I'm normally not a fruity vape kind of person, though I have always loved apples, blueberries and fruit that is foreign to most people.

Bilberry is probably one of the best flavors FA has to offer. I've tried so many blueberry flavors, including the Blueberry Extra that so many people love from TFA and I've been majorly disappointed. Hangsen Blueberry was tops in my book for the longest time, though it tends to fade. It starts off so strong, you'll think it's going to overpower ever single flavor you blend, but in about a week, it takes a backseat. Bilberry from FA, in comparison to Hangsen Bluberry, is an exact opposite in terms of taste and harshness. It's nice, semi-sweet, almost jam-like and it's a super nice mixer. I could see myself keeping 120ml+ of this on hand easily for my own personal stock.

Mangosteen is interesting. I'm on the fence, but I get a really nice creamy flavor from it, which makes me want to work with it heavily. It's hard to describe really, but it's not bad, but I see it as more of a mixer than anything. I've only tried mangosteen from asian grocery stores and it's often freeze dried or candy, so I can't honestly do a fair comparison on how realistic it is to the actual fruit, but it makes me want to grab one if I can find one and try the real thing.

Mandarin is excellent and true to the name. I was eating a bowl of mandarin oranges while vaping it at 3% and it's hard to tell the difference. Mixed with a little bit of Orange and it's perfect. I can see mixing this with Mango and making a really nice vape. Perhaps tossing in a little bit of vanilla classic (don't much care for their other vanilla flavors at the moment).

Kiwi is one that I'm not overly impressed with, at least as of right now. I'm going to revisit this one in a few days to see what I can come up with, but at 2-2.5%, I don't really get a lot from it. Most of what I see recommend it at ~3%, so I may give that a shot.

Apple isn't bad for what it is, but you can tell the apple in the apple pie and apple are one in the same. If you want to boost apple pie a little more and lessen the crust, this would probably work, but it comes off almost candy like, sort of like a jolly rancher, at least initially. Perhaps in very small amounts it would boost the apple pie.

Marshmallow is really nice once it steeps. Freshly mixed, I don't get much flavor from it at all, but once it blends in with the rest of the flavors, it adds a really nice vanilla creamy note to whatever its in. I've actually enjoyed this one more than TFA's (both Toasted and regular).


I'm still tinkering with Watermelon, though Coconut, Almond and Marzipan are excellent. Torrone is, by far, not one of my favorites. I don't know if it's the pistachio in it, or perhaps the type of torrone it's supposed to mimic, but I can't vape it at any level, and I love the candy; I even made some about a week ago (which is extremely time consuming!!).


I know others have already done reviews, but I figured I'd toss my thoughts into the ring as well :).
 

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Are you finding FA's Caramel useful in your experiments? I have always thought that, vaped plain, it has a little tobacco note of its own.
Is Vanilla Bourbon the one you're working with? just curious.
I guess my biggest question is what type of tobacco you'd put there. Something really mild like MaxxBlend or a favorite combination of your own. I just don't taste a lot of tobacco in any RY4 I've had (that's not many).

Haven't experimented with FA yet, I was previously working with Inawera.
Certainly my fault but, I just couldn't get any Inawera tobaccos working for me.
Inawera Virginia and let me make it very clear IMHO is the worst flavor I have ever vaped, ranging from 1% to 10%, after that I trashed it.
Inawera's Caramel and Vanilla aren't the best but far from the worst also. It's a average+ vape.

So, regarding FA's the trials will begin now but since I like it very much your Caramel Eggnog, I don't think It will be a problem using it. Haven't vaped plain yet, my curiosity about your blends was overwhelming. :)
I have only Vanilla Tahity atm. My monthly vaping budget is closed, I have to wait till next month. :)

Now for the tobacco part, when I saw we2rcool's English Blend I got a feeling it could work.
I mixed it (correctly @ 3%) and it's something I can easily imagine a good tobacco base for a RY4.
It's really a very good vape, one of the most balanced vapes I had so far.

As I see it, if you can't taste tobacco in an RY4 there could be 2 reasons: They're perfectly blended or one flavor is overpowering it.
USA RY4's tend to be over sweet and VG heavy. In Europe we tend towards PG and harsher taste.

Wrapping it up! I'm just a n00b with 25+ years of mass murdering my taste buds. Everything I said can't be used against me in a court of law. :p
 
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Haven't experimented with FA yet, I was previously working with Inawera.
Certainly my fault but, I just couldn't get any Inawera tobaccos working for me.
Inawera Virginia and let me make it very clear IMHO is the worst flavor I have ever vaped, ranging from 1% to 10%, after that I trashed it.
Inawera's Caramel and Vanilla aren't the best but far from the worst also. It's a average+ vape.

Inawera is a potent brand of flavoring for the most part. When it comes to their tobaccos, I've used as little as 3-5 drops per 10ml. The only time I'll go above that is when I am mixing with something equally as strong, or I need to better balance the flavors out. The majority of them stop at 1 Drop per ml and anything over that is simply overpowering to the point of being too strong. With such lower usage amount, steeping and getting a really good mix is crucial. They are one brand that I test using a UC 99% of the time to make sure things are dispersed as I'm not going to wear myself out shaking 10-20 bottles :).

Virginia is unique and potent. I'm not a huge fan, but it's certainly not the worst. It definitely falls into the ~5 drops per 10ml range (for me) and you really need something to balance it out a little more as it comes off as having some really sharp notes to it. I've yet to revisit it, but at the current usage, this little 10ml bottle is going to last me a very long time; long enough to get something that I like I'm sure :).

Their take on Burley is pretty good as is the Tobacco "C", which almost has a sugar cookie like taste to it (~8 drops / 10ml for both). I've never tried using their bases, so those may enhance flavor more than using a standard blend of basic PG & VG. I know a few members here have used them with success.

Inawera's Caramel, to me, is simple not caramel, at least not in a sense of caramel we have here in the US (and not specifically the overly sugary non-bitter kind). To me, it needs a long steep to really bring anything out and even then, it's not my go to. As much as I'm not a huge fan of TFA's Caramel Candy, I'd probably use it over the Inawera Caramel. I haven't have the opportunity to try their vanilla(s) yet.
 

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Inawera is a potent brand of flavoring for the most part. When it comes to their tobaccos, I've used as little as 3-5 drops per 10ml. The only time I'll go above that is when I am mixing with something equally as strong, or I need to better balance the flavors out. The majority of them stop at 1 Drop per ml and anything over that is simply overpowering to the point of being too strong. With such lower usage amount, steeping and getting a really good mix is crucial. They are one brand that I test using a UC 99% of the time to make sure things are dispersed as I'm not going to wear myself out shaking 10-20 bottles :).

Virginia is unique and potent. I'm not a huge fan, but it's certainly not the worst. It definitely falls into the ~5 drops per 10ml range (for me) and you really need something to balance it out a little more as it comes off as having some really sharp notes to it. I've yet to revisit it, but at the current usage, this little 10ml bottle is going to last me a very long time; long enough to get something that I like I'm sure :).

Their take on Burley is pretty good as is the Tobacco "C", which almost has a sugar cookie like taste to it (~8 drops / 10ml for both). I've never tried using their bases, so those may enhance flavor more than using a standard blend of basic PG & VG. I know a few members here have used them with success.

Inawera's Caramel, to me, is simple not caramel, at least not in a sense of caramel we have here in the US (and not specifically the overly sugary non-bitter kind). To me, it needs a long steep to really bring anything out and even then, it's not my go to. As much as I'm not a huge fan of TFA's Caramel Candy, I'd probably use it over the Inawera Caramel. I haven't have the opportunity to try their vanilla(s) yet.

You have to very careful with FA tobacco's also, they are extremely potent. I have all of them, and can't use not one of them over 1%, for the most I have used them at 0.5%. I have not tried any Inawera flavors, but I'm going to get the INW Plum and Apple. Just can't seem to find a good strong apple or plum flavoring.
 
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