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I really, really wish they'd re-formulate Croissant. That could be so good with so many things!

I know! It would be so good with so many other flavors. I tried it when I was naive about diketones and all things related. I could have sworn they were going to eliminate them from all of their flavors awhile back. =(

Maybe I should start a croissant campaign.
 

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Lemon Cheesecake
2% Vienna Cream
2% Catalan Cream
1% Custard
.5% Caramel
.75% Acetyle Pyrazine
1% Lemon Sicily

Bryong, thanks for trying my cheesecake base! Do you like it as much as using TFA's Cheesecake Graham? I like being able to start with just the filling, add my own crust (or not), maybe toppings (or not). No graham or coconut hints to get in my way like the premade flavor.

I keep a bottle of it mixed (no lemon, just the rest) and usually add a little something as I fill my tank. I don't really mix it - just swirl it a little for a swirled cheesecake flavor. I like spice cookie crust and a swirl of Irish Cream. I started making a 'cheesecake factory' recipe builder in my blog, but it got too complicated. If I can simplify it, I'll have another shot at it. It's not complicated to DO, just to describe.


You and I must taste fruit flavors differently. I know you vape fruits a lot more than I do. I don't think I'm physically capable of vaping 4% Mango like you have in your Le Mango. I measure that one by the quarter percent, lol! Now I know I'm a mango wimp, not just a tobacco wimp.
 

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That's my challenge, not to use RY4 flavor. I have both RY4 and 555 challenges going on, hehe.

I'm vaping we2rcool's English Blend (now with corrected %) and, I think it has some very good potential as tobacco base for an RY4.
I can't clearly taste any of those flavors, but I can taste them all. I think they blend perfectly, and that didn't happened at 5% as I mistakenly mixed at first.
This has to be a good sign for a Classic RY4.

On a side note, I think Hoosier mentioned that FA tobaccos were difficult because they changed a lot across the different percentages.
Like it could be good at 1%, bad at 2% and good again at 3% (numbers used as an example only). One of the reasons people tend to think FA is difficult to work with.
This English Blend mix, confirms it, imho.

Yep, I understand the desire to create your own RY4. At first, I thought that was an odd idea - just use RY4. But then I remembered I did that with cheesecake, so... we're both odd!

I would think you'll need some acetyl pyrazine to make an RY4. Are you averse to using at least that much from TFA (or sourcing and diluting your own)? Seems to me there's a wide range of what's called "RY4", so you can make it to suit yourself. I'd like to hear your progress, and of course try what you come up with!

I agree with you and Hoosier about the varying taste you get at varying percentages. FA's Royal does that to me. Not just varying the percent of Royal, but also the partners I put it with will change its character. I'm not chasing any particular goal, just playing around. If I look at a tobacco recipe with FA flavors, I have NO idea how it will taste. Even when I mix one and smell it, I still don't know how it'll vape until I vape it. That's very odd to me!
 

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Bryong, thanks for trying my cheesecake base! Do you like it as much as using TFA's Cheesecake Graham? I like being able to start with just the filling, add my own crust (or not), maybe toppings (or not). No graham or coconut hints to get in my way like the premade flavor.

I keep a bottle of it mixed (no lemon, just the rest) and usually add a little something as I fill my tank. I don't really mix it - just swirl it a little for a swirled cheesecake flavor. I like spice cookie crust and a swirl of Irish Cream. I started making a 'cheesecake factory' recipe builder in my blog, but it got too complicated. If I can simplify it, I'll have another shot at it. It's not complicated to DO, just to describe.


You and I must taste fruit flavors differently. I know you vape fruits a lot more than I do. I don't think I'm physically capable of vaping 4% Mango like you have in your Le Mango. I measure that one by the quarter percent, lol! Now I know I'm a mango wimp, not just a tobacco wimp.

Yes I do like the cheesecake base, better than TFA Cheesecake (Graham Cracker). Yeah when you put that up, I also made a bottle and use it as a base. The cheesecake base pretty much works well with any fruit, I made a strawberry and passion fruit one also. Now I would like a good pie crust (maybe ap with cookie), for a lemon pie.

Yeah liking the Mango. Taste buds have been off on occasion lately, allergies have been acting up. I should probably vape some mint for a while in vg.
 

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I really, really wish they'd re-formulate Croissant. That could be so good with so many things!

I can't tell you how much that one has tempted me! But it has more than just a little diacetyl, and I think I'd have order from Italy, so...

Since FA just reformulated their Pistachio and Champagne flavors, I took it as a sign that they're not done yet. There's hope yet for Pandoro, Panettone, and Croissant. I guess. Real croissants are loaded with butter, so I don't know if that's even possible.
 

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I have no problems on using AP, but I think it will give a nutty-555ish taste.

I have been reading this wonderful thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-liquid-reviews/193327-really-big-ry4-roundup-long.html and I think billherbst's way of looking at RY4's is, in essence, what I believe to the correct one.

From there, I gathered some waypoints.
My very humble conclusion is that a Classic RY4 will be something around 40% caramel, 35% tobacco and 25% vanilla, where no flavor will stand out. They must be equally and evenly distributed, taste wise.

That's not set in stone, of course, and it's what I'm in searching off. The Holy Graal will be different from person to person.
So far, my experiences were around a Virginia based flavor, but nothing came out above mediocre. :(

I was really impressed with the way English Blend worked for me (kudos we2rcool) and it gave me a renewed hope.
Since I'm loving FA so far, I hope I'm on a good path here :)
 

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Yes I do like the cheesecake base, better than TFA Cheesecake (Graham Cracker). Yeah when you put that up, I also made a bottle and use it as a base. The cheesecake base pretty much works well with any fruit, I made a strawberry and passion fruit one also. Now I would like a good pie crust (maybe ap with cookie), for a lemon pie.

Yeah liking the Mango. Taste buds have been off on occasion lately, allergies have been acting up. I should probably vape some mint for a while in vg.


You read my mind. I have some things written down at home to try out tomorrow. Lemon pie is on that.

Sent from my stupid iPhone because I don't have an Android.
 
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Very much off subject.

Is anyone else getting redirected to a Spirecig advertisement page when you click various links in ECF? I have tried everything I know to do with Malwarebytes, Adblock, and my Bitdefender antivirus and still keep getting it, kind of as a popup new page. Very irritating.

I haven't tried yet today, but I will go now. Will let you know.....
 

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I'm sorry about the mistake, it's been corrected hmmm, almost... dot1ml doesn't allow 1.8% :D
But it's on recipe notes your original.

I have one bottle with "my" version to open tomorrow... Now that I realize that I've fumbled I'm scared :D

And did I already said your Dulce Fuego is one of my favorite vapes?

Everybody, stop spamming we2rcool with those "OMG (zero nic? :) ) that's way to strong" and go mix some Dulce Fuego!!!
('started this reply days ago and haven't had a chance to read the thread since - apologies if we repeat or conflict with what's already been said/experienced :)

Thank you - no harm, no foul here! 'Just wanted to 'set the record straight' so someone/s didn't end up with a nasty vape experience with our name on it. Well, that 'taste is subjective' thing means it'll probably happen sooner or later anyway - but you know what we mean.

Don't be scared - have fun with it! If you made it at 5%, it should be easy to dilute down to 3%. Who knows, eh? Like Hoosier taught us, the FA tobacco flavors change (substantially) in certain percentage ranges...so maybe you've just created a new killer vape! OR :rolleyes: perhaps you could mix it 50/50 with Dulce Fuego :::grabbing atty - 3 drops EB + 3 drops DF::: :vapor: Oh yes indeedy, that has potential! 'Tis a bit on the sweet side (but grrrr, that's happening to ALL our baccy's since the VT nic has no 'dirty nic taste' to cut the VG sweetness)...ain't nuttin' a wee bit o' Bitter Wizard can't fix.

'Glad you're likin' the Dulce Fuego - it's such a smooth/neutral vape, yet not boring or monotonous...and satisfying, too. D*mn the custard notes in the TFA Dulce Fuego...I've only tried a couple of times to clone it (Fresh Cream/Caramel; Fresh Cream, Vienna, Caramel), but we're not getting very close with the FA (we'll have to mess with the percentages some, but we don't think the 'flavor' is in those three). Methinks it may need some TFA French Vanilla (or some Brown Sugar).

Vape ON!
 

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Sweet cake with all FA flavors! If you want a cake flavor, give it a try.

VANILLA-MOCHA CAKE
1% FA Vanilla Classic
0.5% FA Tiramisu
0.5% FA Meringue
0.5% FA Fresh Cream
0.5% FA Vienna Cream

Shake and vape, but save some leftovers to try the next day, too.

Vanilla Classic, Meringue, and Fresh Cream combine to bring the hint of cake from Tiramisu front and center. The coffee and chocolate from Tiramisu fade to the background. Vienna Cream makes it rich and helps Meringue sweeten the cake. This tastes like a slice of vanilla cake with mocha filling.

I will eventually see if I can coax a chocolate cake flavor out of this beginning, unless one of you beats me to it!
 
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Le Mango
2% Lemon Sicily
4% Mango
(optional) Tart & Sour

Lemon Cheesecake
2% Vienna Cream
2% Catalan Cream
1% Custard
.5% Caramel
.75% Acetyle Pyrazine
1% Lemon Sicily

Enjoy :)

What is the AP for, does it add nutty?
Don't have any, and wondering if .5% nut mix would work instead?
I like Lemon Cheesecake, or any Cheesecake:D
 

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What is the AP for, does it add nutty?
Don't have any, and wondering if .5% nut mix would work instead?
I like Lemon Cheesecake, or any Cheesecake:D

https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6826-acetyl-pyrazine-5-pg.aspx?keyword=acetyl
In my cheesecake base, it just adds that distinctive baked note that all cheesecake flavors have.
In tobaccos, it does taste nutty, but it doesn't add nut flavor at all here.
It's often added to mixes to impart a 'bakery note', like with bananas to make banana bread.

To smell the bottle of AP, you would think it's a corn chips flavor, but you get that effect only if you vape it at a high percentage. ew.
 

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https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6826-acetyl-pyrazine-5-pg.aspx?keyword=acetyl
In my cheesecake base, it just adds that distinctive baked note that all cheesecake flavors have.
In tobaccos, it does taste nutty, but it doesn't add nut flavor at all here.
It's often added to mixes to impart a 'bakery note', like with bananas to make banana bread.

To smell the bottle of AP, you would think it's a corn chips flavor, but you get that effect only if you vape it at a high percentage. ew.

Ah, thanks...
Wondering now if TFA Brown Sugar Extra would work for the "baked" effect?
Might be worth a shot.
 

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From there, I gathered some waypoints.
My very humble conclusion is that a Classic RY4 will be something around 40% caramel, 35% tobacco and 25% vanilla, where no flavor will stand out. They must be equally and evenly distributed, taste wise.

Are you finding FA's Caramel useful in your experiments? I have always thought that, vaped plain, it has a little tobacco note of its own.
Is Vanilla Bourbon the one you're working with? just curious.
I guess my biggest question is what type of tobacco you'd put there. Something really mild like MaxxBlend or a favorite combination of your own. I just don't taste a lot of tobacco in any RY4 I've had (that's not many).
 

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What is the AP for, does it add nutty?
Don't have any, and wondering if .5% nut mix would work instead?
I like Lemon Cheesecake, or any Cheesecake:D

I couldn't live with AP!!! Ok ok technically, I could. I add it to most of my tobaccos. At first, I thought it was gross, but it really enhances the flavors.
 
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