Pyrex Tube/Inner Coil/SS Mesh Genesis Mod

[Big Screen D]

I guess what I am wondering is what did I do wrong?,

Either need a heaver gauge of silver, or ss which has a higher melting point.

You're going to want the coils to lay against the FQ. Going to be hard to get the heat you need through the air gap, especially with the top open. Tube looks to short I think also. I don't think the JB weld will hold up unless its down in the juice.

Stick with it man. I'm still tweaking things on my end, but this really works great.

 

[k3vin]

Ok that answers some questions.. Thanks D...
The tube is an inch long, and seems to go down about far enough... For the record I have put my torch to the fq, got it glowing red hot for 15-20 seconds at a time and not a wisp of melting...

Yea I just looked at the silver wire I got from wm and it is .3 mm.

 

[dsy5]

If nothing else, K3vin, you made a nice shadow puppet....

 

[dsy5]

Big Screen,

I'm going to give your concept a try when I get the materials. I think that with the wick exposed, there is a larger surface area for the vapor to be produced on and it also protects the glass from being cooled by air. With the original wick in the glass method, I don't feel that there is a complete vaporization of the juice, leading to the lack of real vapor when the cap is on.

 

[k3vin]

Ok I see what happened with the pic.. Here is a pic of the first one which is an inch long.. The second pic in my previous post was my second try to get the ohms down... With 20+ wraps of 32ga a1 kanthal I got an ohm reading of 5.5
This pic is the coils in the inch long fq

Sorry for the bluriness

 

[Big Screen D]

Wow, that FQ has a mighty high softening point k3vin!

Think the best bet for your larger tubes is to concentrate the coils more width than lengthwise with the coils making contact with the tube. To help protect the JB Weld at the bottom, I'm thinking maybe a small ball of foil in first before the JB Weld would keep it cool enough. The top really should be closed. Since the FQ won't melt, I can not come up with a good solution for that. Kinda need a little metal cap with a center hole. Maybe some part from an old clearo or something?

The 3 ohm I built last night is too long by 1 turn of a dud cap And, the coil inside is too long as well causing it to extend below the base plate. Good new is I made a 2 ohm tonight that I'm sure will be spot on.

 

[Big Screen D]

Here's the 2ohm drying now. Sized for a dud rba.

If my math us right, 1.8mm diameter tube x 5mm coil height= 33 sq mm heating surface area.

edited for out of high school to long ago.

 

[k3vin]

I'll be back to it tomorrow... Lol

 

[bapgood]

Big Screen D.....How about a video showing off your vapor

Looking good

I'm thinking about trying something similar using a double helix coil to bring both leads out the top

 

[Big Screen D]

I'll put up another video for ya, but may not be till tomorrow evening before I get a chance.

You're working with oxidized syringe tubing right? That's tight quarters for a double helix coil!

 

[bapgood]

I'll put up another video for ya, but may not be till tomorrow evening before I get a chance.

You're working with oxidized syringe tubing right? That's tight quarters for a double helix coil!

I have some 3mm and 2.5mm thin wall Pyrex and Some 3mm x 2mm FQ also.

But yeah I picked up a couple of 14gauge needles to try also.

I'm trying a bunch of different things, but nothing worth bragging about. I did put a coil in one end of a FQ tube and dry burn it to see how much the heat transfers down the tube and etc. I could hold one end and then burned myself when touched close to the coil ....I was quite surprised that the heat didn't move to the other end faster. The tube was probably 3"-4" long

 

[k3vin]

Yea bap when I heated the end of my fq to red hot I the. Stopped with the heat, blew on it a bit and was holding it in my fingers within 1 min... It cooled quickly

 

[Big Screen D]

I have some 3mm and 2.5mm thin wall Pyrex and Some 3mm x 2mm FQ also.

But yeah I picked up a couple of 14gauge needles to try also.

I'm trying a bunch of different things, but nothing worth bragging about. I did put a coil in one end of a FQ tube and dry burn it to see how much the heat transfers down the tube and etc. I could hold one end and then burned myself when touched close to the coil ....I was quite surprised that the heat didn't move to the other end faster. The tube was probably 3"-4" long

Interesting that the heat doesn't conduct readily to the other end. May be part of the problem with FQ.

Looks like I'm going to just have to PO the spousal unit and get y'all a new video up sooner rather than later. The build I made last night is the bomb. Seriously, filled it up Boba's Bounty since I know the taste of that juice better than any other, and is the poorest wicking juice there is. Works fabulously.

 

[bapgood]

Interesting that the heat doesn't conduct readily to the other end. May be part of the problem with FQ.

I didn't dry burn very long, but it was hot by the coil and not at the other end.....I figured that you were seeing something similar since you weren't boiling the jbweld.....plus I don't think you really want the heat in the tank....because if I remember correctly your tube is down around the bottom of your tank.

 

[subver]

Very cool, I'm loving all this glass stuff. Where is everyone getting the pyrex and/or FQ tubes? I've got an Odysseus v2 coming in the mail (hopefully today) and I was thinking of trying some setups with glass.

 

[bapgood]

Very cool, I'm loving all this glass stuff. Where is everyone getting the pyrex and/or FQ tubes? I've got an Odysseus v2 coming in the mail (hopefully today) and I was thinking of trying some setups with glass.

Check out this thread for some info....there are other places as well but this is where I got my stuff
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/356810-scubaqu-issues-ideas.html

 

[subver]

Ahhh, the ONE glass thread I haven't checked yet, of course.. thanks!

 

[bapgood]

BSD.....I tryed your method today and I broke my Pyrex tube putting it together

It was contained is the mesh so I fired it a bit (no vaping) and it showed some potential

I'm going to put one together with FQ, but there isn't any melting it with a butane torch.....but it is also dang strong....not at all brittle like the thin wall Pyrex

 

[Big Screen D]

LOL, good thing they come in packs of 100. Actually, since each one makes two, two hundred.

Very tedious, but I've gotten better and better at it.

 

[k3vin]

Ok I have one together... A forum member sent me some Pyrex.. Thank you so much .. It melts easy compared to fq...
And since I couldn't find any nickel or SS nr wire, I went by a guitar shop and got the smallest E string they had..
9 ga....
It doesn't say SS or nickel, but I thought I would give it a shot anyway, it showed no resistance so we shall see..

Anyway here is a pic of my finished drying piece..