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[ScandaLeX]

I honestly didn't know the first thing about vaping when I went to the store. I only knew my friend bought one from someone at work and it was keeping her from smoking (for the most part). I just figured since I had a little money I'd try it, not even planning to quit cigs. Day two and I figured it was a waste of money because of juice flavor, but not because of the Spinner I bought. That's an excellent first device for a beginner and I'll recommend it again. Day three I decided to try it again and it stuck, mostly thanks to what I read about vaper's tongue. I WANTED to have it as I hoped it would keep me from worrying about the juice thing...lol Vaped up a storm and got used to the juice.


Heck, I've only been HERE for three weeks and vaping for only a couple of days before that....lol

But then, I'm a VERY fast learner when I want to know something and I have mad research skillz, yo.

I've been here longer than I've been a registered member.

The first time I looked into vaping, it wasn't a hard look. I wasn't serious about quitting smoking so my searches were a peek here and there- that was a long time ago.
This time I researched until my eyes were ready to fall out my head. I absorbed so much information I felt like I was ready to take over the world.

The first kit was an eGo and that lasted me all of 2-3 days before I decided I wanted something else.
At night I'd lie in bed watching everything related to vaping on YouTube like it was the Investigation Discovery channel.
By week 2 I had a Segelei Zmax and vaper's tongue or as another site puts it- tongue fatigue.
As much as I enjoyed not smoking I found myself sometimes not enjoying vaping- I had all these different flavors and no longer knew what any of them were supposed to taste like.

Interesting point to note- if you don't know what vapers tongue is, you just end up thinking all the juice you bought was no good.

By week 3 I think I had a mech but still couldn't really taste flavors. Part of my problem was not drinking enough water unless you count the water used to make coffee.
By week 4 I knew I was getting a ProVari but had to wait until the following month to get it (family will suck you dry).

The great thing about PV's is you can stick with one or many- we have an endless array of choices and I'm not done shopping yet.

 

[The Ocelot]

I gotta stay away from...

I have to jump in and say to take this one off of the list. While the first post appears to be AntiProVarian, if you go through the thread that's not what it's about. I was friends with the OP prior to the thread and am one of the regulars there. Almost everyone on that thread has a ProVari.

What happened was a particularly nasty encounter with the worst kind of ProVari fanboi. My friend was on a thread started by a very new vaper, with a limited budget, looking for suggestions for their very first kit. Someone posted the infamous Just get a ProVari, you'll end up with one anyway. My friend had actually picked up her perspective from me, in that to suggest a new vaper buy a device beyond their budget and comfort level is inappropriate, especially when such advice is accompanied by statements that everything else on the market is junk. After trying to quit smoking on other occasions without success, new vapers are often skeptical that vaping will work and hesitant about investing a lot of money. To be told that if they don't spend more than they can afford, the only option is to buy junk which won't get them off of cigarettes is not only insensitive, it borders on cruelty. More than once I have received PMs from new members in tears because they don't have the money for an expensive device and don't know what to do. I get very angry about this.

Anyway, my friend had the nerve to suggest that a Spinner kit might be a better choice and a ProVari fanboi went after her. The thread got so heated the guy even insulted the breed of dog she has for a pet (seriously!) The thread was closed and she went to the Lounge and started a thread to scream and get it out of her system. The I Gotta Stay Away From... title came from I gotta stay away from the New Members section. She just wanted to rant, but a mod moved the thread to the General Discussion section, where it sort of took on a life of its own...but not as one might think. The thread got so nice it ended up back in the Lounge and now has over 1,300 pages. The thread isn't about ProVari hate, it's about azzhole hate.

From the original post:

My head hurts. Poor new people. They will be getting [my edit] and running a LR cartomizer on top as they overfill and have juice dripping down the side of a $200 battery case and wondering why this vaping "thing" just isn't working out so well. When the batteries run dry, they will be running to Walgreens to buy a disposable Blu.

Oh, well...GOD FORBID people should tell them to slow their roll and figure it out before spending the rent money on a device they do not understand.

I completely agree with her.

Since you are unlikely to read the entire thread, let me tell you that it quickly became witty, sarcastic and very funny. We were/are even nice to Nimrods who only read the first couple of pages and then post, thinking they have found comrades in AntiProVarianism.

You also cannot deny your own history:

4/25/2013:

They see when you vape. They see what devices you use. They hear when you say, "I am running about today, I think I will just take a spinner out to run my errands!" Their eyes see all...

The Church won't recognize them. Governments pretend they don't exist. Historians never name them, for fear of what will become of their families. The police let the cases in which they are involved go cold. Dig into their past, and you are part of it!

United. Of single purpose. Determined. Unstoppable. Those that shall not be named (except at the end of this trailer).


Coming to theaters this June:

*The Provarinati*

Although the seed was planted in another thread, it was here that The ProVarinati was nurtured and gathered strength.

rawr

 

[The Ocelot]

To conclude my Rawr (again): I posted these a month before my friend got bullied by a fanboi

100+ Most Annoying Things About Vaping

37) People who think that because I have a ProThingy I don't use my Twists

51) Very new vapers being told to buy equipment beyond their current comfort level and budget because "you'll just outgrow it. I can't believe how much money I wasted until I got xxx."

54) Having to put a ProThingy in my avatar so people would stop telling me that if I had one I wouldn't recommend Twists/Spinners to new vapers.

 

[SoCalMichelle]

and then there are the noobs, like me, who find ECF and read, consider the options and go from Blu to Provari. I decided that if this was what I was going to really want in the end, I should save money by skipping the interim step(s) and just buy it. It was also a reflection of the commitment I was making to go smoke free. I'm very happy, but completely agree that this isn't the right path for most.

I started with Blu Starter kit last year/ on and off analogs.
Decided to stop for real and bought the Halo Trioton and recieved it last week.
Then same as you, reviewer after reviewer on YouTube- PBusardo, GrimmGreen, SmokersIndoors( ithink thats his name he pops up a lot for vape videos) all have a Provari...sure they have other stuff too, but in tons of videos, you see them using the Provari...over and over... Then I got interested and came here to ECF 4 days ago. Then I met all you wonderful ProVarinati's with knowledge and wisdom...

first I almost went for the Vamo the popular midrange mod...then I saw post after post- "Help My Vamo ____", "Why is my Vamo ____", "I love my Vamo except. A.______ B._______ C._______", "My Vamo died after 3 weeks" "Vamo keeps unthreading what do I Do"....

By the 100th post of Vamo related problems I decided I'm not throwing $60 at something I might actually like that is going to die in 6 months. Why would I bother putting my time and effort learning a device and liking it...knowing it's going to die- SOONER than later? It can't go out in the rain? That's my favorite time to smoke

The choice became clear after 5 Days on my Triton. Last night I bought the Provari. Skip the wasted inbetween money and get something of good quality. Only a little over $100 more than I was going to spend on the Vamo.

Ahhh I can feel the Provari's presence getting closer and stronger... The force is strong with this one...

 

[The Ocelot]

I started with Blu Starter kit last year/ on and off analogs.
Decided to stop for real and bought the Halo Trioton and recieved it last week.
Then same as you, reviewer after reviewer on YouTube- PBusardo, GrimmGreen, SmokersIndoors( ithink thats his name he pops up a lot for vape videos) all have a Provari...sure they have other stuff too, but in tons of videos, you see them using the Provari...over and over... Then I got interested and came here to ECF 4 days ago. Then I met all you wonderful ProVarinati's with knowledge and wisdom...

first I almost went for the Vamo the popular midrange mod...then I saw post after post- "Help My Vamo ____", "Why is my Vamo ____", "I love my Vamo except. A.______ B._______ C._______", "My Vamo died after 3 weeks" "Vamo keeps unthreading what do I Do"....

By the 100th post of Vamo related problems I decided I'm not throwing $60 at something I might actually like that is going to die in 6 months. Why would I bother putting my time and effort learning a device and liking it...knowing it's going to die- SOONER than later? It can't go out in the rain? That's my favorite time to smoke

The choice became clear after 5 Days on my Triton. Last night I bought the Provari. Skip the wasted inbetween money and get something of good quality. Only a little over $100 more than I was going to spend on the Vamo.

Ahhh I can feel the Provari's presence getting closer and stronger... The force is strong with this one...

One does not get a ProVari, one is called. It was your destiny.

 

[bosun]

I bought an 808 cig-alike. Got off coffin nails. Bought a bigger (mah) cig-alike. Still liked vaping. Lotsa time on the forums. Was thinking about a VV Halo Triton. I liked the 808 because it was less 'fiddling around' (KISS Principle). Too much baffling talk about good/bad/indifferent mods/tanks/clones/name brands. Too many good words on the Provari. Didn't look like it required any more fiddling around that the 808 system (cartos/clearos/tanks). Ordered the Provari. Excellent build quality, excellent practicality, excellent 'vapability'. I'm content and happy with it! Next mod will be a REO for something totally different. Then I fell into the hole -- DIY juice blending, rebuildables. Still looking for a juice I want to vape though!!

 

[Baditude]

But, but, but,... Michelle! It wasn't my expert salesmanship on the Provari that won you over?

 

[The Ocelot]

But, but, but,... Michelle! It wasn't my expert salesmanship on the Provari that won you over?

Get used to being forgotten. Eddard now claims he was never ambivalent about getting a ProVari (or 2 or 3) and planned to get one all along. I admit he was thinking of getting one to celebrate one year off of tobacco, but stubbornly refused to get one for months. He started calling me "Princess" and accused me of trying to indoctrinate him into a cult.

Perhaps I will post some of his comments...

 

[EvilZoe]

One does not get a ProVari, one is called. It was your destiny.

Man, that is the absolute truth, too....lol

It kept calling and calling and calling.....worse than a telemarketer selling crack.

Ignoring the phone does no good at all. You're GONNA pick up the receiver eventually.

 

[EddardinWinter]

Get used to being forgotten. Eddard now claims he was never ambivalent about getting a ProVari (or 2 or 3) and planned to get one all along. I admit he was thinking of getting one to celebrate one year off of tobacco, but stubbornly refused to get one for months. He started calling me "Princess" and accused me of trying to indoctrinate him into a cult.

Perhaps I will post some of his comments...

Some people...

Just having her way is not enough. I suppose I am denying The Ocelot some glory she has earned....

I know for a fact that I have recently admitted that you influenced my decision to get a ProVari. If I am not mistaken, you read, liked, and replied to the post acknowledging its (relative) accuracy.

How did I get dragged into this, Your Highness?



Tapped out

 

[The Ocelot]

Some people...

Just having her way is not enough. I suppose I am denying The Ocelot some glory she has earned....

I know for a fact that I have recently admitted that you influenced my decision to get a ProVari. If I am not mistaken, you read, liked, and replied to the post acknowledging its (relative) accuracy.

How did I get dragged into this, Your Highness?



Tapped out

You were called.

 

[EddardinWinter]

You were called.

Good answer.



Tapped out

 

[Baditude]

How did I get dragged into this, Your Highness?

You were on a Mission from Provape.

 

[EddardinWinter]

My mission never stops.



Tapped out

 

[serenity21899]

ProVarinati sure are a witty bunch. You guys crack me up!

That is because we have extra time spent not fiddling with our vaping stuff. We have time to think this stuff up.

 

[serenity21899]

Personally, I think it must be a solid product that owners will recommend because it's so solid and other people just get tired of hearing it so they them "fanboys". Then, on the other hand, there are people who are being too sensitive about the term because in the end, they STILL have the solid device that they're happy with so it shouldn't matter what other people say.

When you REALLY look it even more closely you'll find that there are probably more people advocating for VAMOs....lol

Frankly, I think it should all be taken as lightly and with as much humor as possible because hell, it's just the internet and people say stupid crap anonymously from behind their monitors for whatever reasons. H8ers gonna h8 and all. Just laugh it off and enjoy your device.

It isn't a serious issue, you know? Who CARES what other people think?

I think that some people heed the ProVari advice, and realize that this many people cannot be wrong. I did my research and watched the reviews, too, and decided I needed one, or three.

Then there is the group of people that do not want to hear it because they are convinced that Vamo (or whatever device) is just as good. It gets and tiresome, and personally, I stick to the ProVari threads and newbie thread and try to avoid all the arguing.

 

[Codz]

Man, that is the absolute truth, too....lol

It kept calling and calling and calling.....worse than a telemarketer selling crack.

Ignoring the phone does no good at all. You're GONNA pick up the receiver eventually.

I agree, but i think it's a bit mean that they call you back 2 weeks after you make your first purchase

 

[ScandaLeX]

I agree, but i think it's a bit mean that they call you back 2 weeks after you make your first purchase

Many have gotten the call within days, hours, even mins. after taking possession of the Holiest of Holies.
It is ones destiny which they should follow.

 

[Codz]

Many have gotten the call within days, hours, even mins. after taking possession of the Holiest of Holies.
It is ones destiny which they should follow.

In my case, i am going to delay destiny, at least until the end of the month

 

[WhiteHighlights]

In my case, i am going to delay destiny, at least until the end of the month

You do realize that the end of the month is just 2 weeks away don't you?

edit: correction, I was off by a day