Question about 510 attys

[rocketvapor]

I searched the forum, but couldn't find an answer to this question.

The attys that came with my 510 lasted 2 months. They had a thin gold band where the atty meets the same thin band on the batty.

I ordered 10 bulk new attys from another vendor. They have a wide gold band where it meets the batty. These new attys produce much less vapor, and they're only lasting a few days to maybe a week, if I'm lucky.

Did I get knock-offs? Which are the "right" attys for the 510? I'm inclined to search around for the thin gold band attys and order them and keep the others for emergencies. Or maybe I just got a bad lot.

Have any of had a similar experience? Thanks for your help!

 

[a2dcovert]

The wide band verses the narrow band is simply a cosmetic change preferred by a couple of e-cig brands. All the 510 parts are manufactured by Joye. I'm assuming the brand you got was the Titan. I'm not aware of anyone reporting so many failures on a stock 510 & those atomizers.

Kevin

 

[rocketvapor]

Thanks, a2d. Just my luck!

Maybe I'll try another batch from a different vendor and see what happens.

 

[mikea]

The wide band verses the narrow band is simply a cosmetic change preferred by a couple of e-cig brands. All the 510 parts are manufactured by Joye. I'm assuming the brand you got was the Titan. I'm not aware of anyone reporting so many failures on a stock 510 & those atomizers.

I wonder, though, if some atomizers I ordered a few months ago -- from a vendor who claimed they were newer designs and "heavier duty" or "longer lasting" than the "original" 510 atomizers -- were made by some third party. The reason I wondered: they did not correctly fit the Joye 510 carts I had on hand. They were slightly too large in diameter. The carts would simply fall out of the atomizers -- and those were the only atomizers I had with that problem. It was a big pain in the backside.

So I wondered if anyone was doing 510 knockoffs for a while...

 

[Mustang394]

Thanks, a2d. Just my luck!

Maybe I'll try another batch from a different vendor and see what happens.

If you got the cash and are not afraid to order direct from china, Health Cabin has a special on 510 attys. 20 atty for 135 shipped. If you use there coupon ecf08 you get 8% off so it 124.20 shipped.

 

[a2dcovert]

I wonder, though, if some atomizers I ordered a few months ago -- from a vendor who claimed they were newer designs and "heavier duty" or "longer lasting" than the "original" 510 atomizers -- were made by some third party. The reason I wondered: they did not correctly fit the Joye 510 carts I had on hand. They were slightly too large in diameter. The carts would simply fall out of the atomizers -- and those were the only atomizers I had with that problem. It was a big pain in the backside.

So I wondered if anyone was doing 510 knockoffs for a while...

There was a "new" 510 atomizer that was sold by innovapor.com using those claims. They were a knock-off and he has since stopped marketing them. They were not made by Joye.

Kevin

 

[mikea]

There was a "new" 510 atomizer that was sold by innovapor.com using those claims. They were a knock-off and he has since stopped marketing them. They were not made by Joye.
Kevin

Yes, that's who I got them from. When I wrote about the bad fit, I got a sort of vague answer that didn't address my question. Seems to me the right thing to do would have been to check out the new atomizers thoroughly and then not sell them in the first place, since pretty obviously they weren't made correctly. DUH! Ok, money lost -- but that's a (deductible!) cost of doing business! Instead, they sold 'em. Did that third party manufacturer also send cartridges that did fit? Could be, but they should have checked them against Joye cartridges. The other right thing to do would have been: sorry about the bad fit; send them back and we'll exchange them. No such offer. (Should I have insisted? Yes, of course, so I have to fault myself for not being more assertive.) It was the second time something was shipped from there that wasn't right, and the second time the response was not satisfactory. Too bad -- they're the closest vendor to where I live -- but enough was enough and fortunately there are plenty of choices (for now) out there, vendor-wise...

 

[KevinD872]

Yes, that's who I got them from. When I wrote about the bad fit, I got a sort of vague answer that didn't address my question. Seems to me the right thing to do would have been to check out the new atomizers thoroughly and then not sell them in the first place, since pretty obviously they weren't made correctly. DUH! Ok, money lost -- but that's a (deductible!) cost of doing business! Instead, they sold 'em. Did that third party manufacturer also send cartridges that did fit? Could be, but they should have checked them against Joye cartridges. The other right thing to do would have been: sorry about the bad fit; send them back and we'll exchange them. No such offer. (Should I have insisted? Yes, of course, so I have to fault myself for not being more assertive.) It was the second time something was shipped from there that wasn't right, and the second time the response was not satisfactory. Too bad -- they're the closest vendor to where I live -- but enough was enough and fortunately there are plenty of choices (for now) out there, vendor-wise...

That's a shame that they (IV) didn't take care of you. I ordered my initial 510 kits from IV as well (and received the "new" atties) but I was prepared for the potential loose fit and ordered some 901 carts as well, which fit tighter. From what I understand, IV didn't know they were knock-offs. I don't know whether that is true or not, and to me it doesn't really matter. I actually have never tried a "genuine" 510 atty. We have been using 3 "new" atties with no problems for a month and a half now. Although I have nothing to compare them to, I actually LIKE the "new" atties. In fact, I ordered a few extras a few weeks ago and I had to specifically ask him for the new ones. He said he only had a few left and was saving them for those who asked. I'm certain they are all gone now and I asked if they planned to get anymore and the response was "no".

In preparation for the possible ban, I just ordered 10 "genuine" atties from another supplier. I probably won't even try one until the one I am using craps out, but I fear that I won't like them or that they will die earlier.

I've read some posts by people that have used both and everyone's opinion seems to vary.

 

[RIMP]

I sent my "new" attys back and iv sent me the regular ones I really liked them, they were powerhouses but they leaked with the 510 carts



RIMP

 

[Fr0st8it3]

How long to attys normally last in the 510? I got my 510 from kingpin.... and been wondering if i got a good vendor...

 

[mikea]

From what I understand, IV didn't know they were knock-offs. I don't know whether that is true or not, and to me it doesn't really matter. I actually have never tried a "genuine" 510 atty. We have been using 3 "new" atties with no problems for a month and a half now. Although I have nothing to compare them to, I actually LIKE the "new" atties.

They seemed all right to me in terms of how they worked. More recently I got geniune Joye atomizers from both Eastmall and Totally Wicked. They're all fine in terms of how they fit together with the carts.

 

[a2dcovert]

How long to attys normally last in the 510? I got my 510 from kingpin.... and been wondering if i got a good vendor...

The length of time that atomizers work varies by user. If you don't overheat the atomizer a lot it could last 2 to 4 months or more. Your experiences may be different. If you bought a authentic Joye-510 e-cig it really doesn't matter who you buy it from. They are all produced in the same factory.

Kevin

 

[cassavetes]

I had the same problem with the wide band atty's.

I thought they just needed to break in, but after two months I've given up on them.

They have no resistance to the draw and produce hardly any vapor. My original atty's with the thin band are still going strong after 2 and a half months.

 

[a2dcovert]

I had the same problem with the wide band atty's.

I thought they just needed to break in, but after two months I've given up on them.

They have no resistance to the draw and produce hardly any vapor. My original atty's with the thin band are still going strong after 2 and a half months.

I have been using both types since April and I found there to be no difference between them.

Kevin

 

[a2dcovert]

I had the same problem with the wide band atty's.

I thought they just needed to break in, but after two months I've given up on them.

They have no resistance to the draw and produce hardly any vapor. My original atty's with the thin band are still going strong after 2 and a half months.

One question is where did you buy them? Were they a special bulk price? It may be a quality control issue.

Kevin

 

[cassavetes]

One question is where did you buy them? Were they a special bulk price? It may be a quality control issue.

Kevin

I bought the wide band atty's from Totally Wicked. After the first week of no vapor I sent them back and they sent me two new ones. They performed almost exactly the same. It could just be luck of the draw.

One of them fires up after about 3 good minutes of use, but if I let it cool down I have to heat it up and break it in all over again.

BTW- I recently ordered two atty's from Dietsmokes. One Scorpion red band and a white tie model. They were monsters right out of the box. The only difference I can tell is that the two wide band atty's are labeled 510 Titan, and the other are said to be official Joye510 atty's.

I've heard from numerous people that all 510 atty's are manufactured by Joye, just rebranded by various suppliers.

 

[rocketvapor]

My wide-band attys were a bulk order (2 5-packs) from eastmall. In the picture on their site, they showed the narrow-band ones. Figures.

I just got a copper kit from healthcabin yesterday (after my original post) and those attys are great - loads of vapor and easy draw. I even put the copper atty on my black batt and it was great. I thought maybe my black batts were getting old and losing power, but not so.

In a little while, I'll have to try the bulk attys from HC and see how they work. Damn, I just got an order from them, too.

 

[happily]

the innovapor atty's were the jsb 510 atty's and had a washer visible around the coil............all other are joytech hardware

 

[cassavetes]

My wide-band attys were a bulk order (2 5-packs) from eastmall. In the picture on their site, they showed the narrow-band ones. Figures.

I just got a copper kit from healthcabin yesterday (after my original post) and those attys are great - loads of vapor and easy draw. I even put the copper atty on my black batt and it was great. I thought maybe my black batts were getting old and losing power, but not so.

In a little while, I'll have to try the bulk attys from HC and see how they work. Damn, I just got an order from them, too.

Rocket, how long did it take you to receive your shipment from HC? I've been waiting a week and a half on a copper 510 kit.

 

[rocketvapor]

I got my (pretty large) order in 6 days. I'm not sure why yours is taking so long. I think they're getting a lot of orders from people who are trying to get their orders in before the week-long national holiday next week.

I think you can click on the order link and see where your order is in the USPS system. That should tell you if it's made it to the US and cleared customs. The hold-up might be on this side of the pond. Good luck.