Question from a noob DIYer

[MarkRNY]

Or wannabe DIYer.

Been watching this vid about DIY, which seems excellent and pretty thorough--



My question's this-- To get a decent cigarette-like throat hit, should I go for PG or VG nicotine?
For me, vaping is strictly for smoking cessation (and it worked, which still amazes me as does the jihad against vaping which has helped so many). I just want a decent, Marlborough/Pall Mall type throat hit and a decent amount of vapor. I'm going to try to come as close to the type of 18 mg coffee flavor e-liquid I've been buying and which has gotten me off cigs. Problem with them is their company sucks (price, shipping, being out of stock, etc.). Time to do it myself. Looks like fun too. Once I have a base flavor down, I'll experiment with others.

Any help would be appreciated. Going to order everything I need today if possible. Got the scale for Christmas!

Thanks, and Merry Christmas to everyone.

 

[Letitia]

PG for th. What tank will you be using?

 

[bombastinator]

Pg makes more throat hit than vg

 

[Baditude]

"Throat hit" is primarily the result from the nicotine concentration, and secondarily from the Pg.

Much depends upon the juice delivery device (tank) used. Standard resistance (ohm) coils will need a little higher nic content; sub-ohm coils will generally require half the amount of nicotine.

Coffee flavors can be a little tricky for DIY in my opinion. Most need some "steep time" to reach their full flavor potential.

 

[dc99]

I agree with the PG base nic. Probably a 50/50 blend on your mixes also. If you post the name of the juice and who makes it we may be able to find a recipe thats real close to it.

 

[Beamslider]

I have never used this since I don't like throat hit but this is designed to increase it.

http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-e-liquid/browse-flavorings/tobacco-flavors/flash-by-flavourart.html

 

[stols001]

I would say if you can buy your nic base in PG. I say that merely as someone who cannot tolerate much PG at all, I'm somewhat sensitive to it when inhaled in large quantities, so I have to use VG base nic and it is more of a pain to handle and manage as it's quite thick.

As to what VG/PG ratio you will use? That depends on a lot of factors, as has been stated. More PG does increase throat hit, as does a higher nicotine strength. However, if you are using sub0hm coils (resistance lower that 1.0 though it's typically a LOT lower than that these days, there will be limits on the amount of VG you want to use. If you are using a small MLT tank with coils of resistance of 1.0 or above, typically you may find a higher PG easier to manage.

Strength of nicotine will increase you throat hit as well.

Good luck, if you can provide details about your setup, we can probably be more precise. DIY is tons of fun!!!

Anna

 

[Beamslider]

PG base nic is what I use not for throat hit. VG base nic is too thick to work with conveniently

 

[yo vapo]

PG base nic is what I use not for throat hit. VG base nic is too thick to work with conveniently

You thin it 80% VG, 20% distilled water.

 

[dc99]

As long as you remember to recalculate your mg/ml. I use VG based for the same reason stols001 does. Its not that hard to deal with.

 

[bombastinator]

Another option is to warm the VG. Give 60ml of VG ten seconds in a Microwave and it flows like water.

 

[Letitia]

Another option is to warm the VG. Give 60ml of VG ten seconds in a month crow ave and it flows like water.

What is a month crow ave?

 

[bombastinator]

What is a month crow ave?

Lol microwave a la autocorrect

 

[MarkRNY]

Thanks for all the replies.

I'm just using ego twist 1300 mAh batteries, Aspire ET tanks and 1.8 ohm coil. This has been working great for me. The E-Liquid is V2's coffee flavor, 1.8 mgs. I want to try to come as close as I can to that.

Think I'm going to try combining Liquid Barn's Cappucino flavor with a little of their their cream flavor. Maybe a little sweetener too. From the replies, it looks like PG Nic is the way to go with about a 50/50 PG to VG ratio. Seems pretty straightforward, but if anyone has any suggestions I'd love to hear them. What seems straightforward sometimes isn't.

Thanks again!

 

[Letitia]

Thanks for all the replies.

I'm just using ego twist 1300 mAh batteries, Aspire ET tanks and 1.8 ohm coil. This has been working great for me. The E-Liquid is V2's coffee flavor, 1.8 mgs. I want to try to come as close as I can to that.

Think I'm going to try combining Liquid Barn's Cappucino flavor with a little of their their cream flavor. Maybe a little sweetener too. From the replies, it looks like PG Nic is the way to go with about a 50/50 PG to VG ratio. Seems pretty straightforward, but if anyone has any suggestions I'd love to hear them. What seems straightforward sometimes isn't.

Thanks again!

50/50 is a good ratio for your gear. Mix a small 15ml tester and if you want more th up the pg to 60 for the next 15ml tester.

 

[dc99]

Maybe the cappucino,vienna cream and a touch of sweet cream if your going to try liquid barn only. If your going to try to get close to the V2 I think your going to have to venture out. FA's UP would be a good addition

 

[MarkRNY]

50/50 is a good ratio for your gear. Mix a small 15ml tester and if you want more th up the pg to 60 for the next 15ml tester.

Sounds good, Letitia. Thanks.

 

[MarkRNY]

Maybe the cappucino,vienna cream and a touch of sweet cream if your going to try liquid barn only. If your going to try to get close to the V2 I think your going to have to venture out. FA's UP would be a good addition

What's "FA's UP"?? I'm not upon the abbreviations. I'd like to check them out though.

Thanks, dc.

 

[stols001]

FA usually stands for Flavor Art. "Up" is going to be the particular mix that they sell, which sounds more like an additive to boost flavor than a flavor.

Some of the pinned threads in DIY you may find helpful....

Anna

 

[dc99]

Flavour Art - Up - 30mL
Sorry about that. Thought it might go well with the flavors you listed. Coffee is my Achilles heal. Just one of those that is hard to get right.