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Vapor Pete

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Ok,
Rob, I emailed you at the website a few days ago about 30mL 555 and Menthol in 11mg (100%VG), because its time to re-order. You replied very quickly (thank you) but said you didnt know when you'd have them back in stock because you guys are focusing on your USA liquid.
I appreciate your honesty and fast reply.. but Im absolutely hooked on your VG 555 and Menthol... I found you after my last supplier changed up their flavors. I DO NOT want to change again. Do you have anything CLOSELY resembling the VG 555 and Menthol that I can order and try? The juice is runnin low here at home, and I dont wanna go anywhere else!
 

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Ok,
Rob, I emailed you at the website a few days ago about 30mL 555 and Menthol in 11mg (100%VG), because its time to re-order. You replied very quickly (thank you) but said you didnt know when you'd have them back in stock because you guys are focusing on your USA liquid.
I appreciate your honesty and fast reply.. but Im absolutely hooked on your VG 555 and Menthol... I found you after my last supplier changed up their flavors. I DO NOT want to change again. Do you have anything CLOSELY resembling the VG 555 and Menthol that I can order and try? The juice is runnin low here at home, and I dont wanna go anywhere else!

Just a suggestion, but you could buy the 24 mg and 0 mg menthol and then just mix them together for 12 mg's. That's what I have always done, because I vape 5 -6 mg, so the 11 and 0 mixed were perfect for me. Hope the idea helps a little!:)
 

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Hi Rob,

Just received my new 650mah Eco kit wednesday. I noticed that when i plug it in to charge the light on the charger only stays red for a few seconds when i first screw the battery in. Is that normal? The manual says to leave the battery on the charger even if the light stays green. Never seen this before on any of my batteries. The light on the charger always stays red while charging and turns green when done charging. Tried this on my old Eco charger as well as the one that came with the kit. Any suggestions, Thanks, Leo


If the battery has any power left (does not necessarily need a charge) the light may not turn red and charge.
It will need to drop to a certain voltage to start the charging phase.
If it is close to dead, (out of power) it may take a min or 10 minutes to turn red.

Use it for a little bit and possibly until it needs a charge then charge it.

All should be fine, but let me know...
 

Vapor Pete

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Just a suggestion, but you could buy the 24 mg and 0 mg menthol and then just mix them together for 12 mg's. That's what I have always done, because I vape 5 -6 mg, so the 11 and 0 mixed were perfect for me. Hope the idea helps a little!:)

How do you do that? Like mix equal parts? 30mL of 24mg to 30mL of 0mg = 60mL of 12mg?
 

Poeia

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How do you do that? Like mix equal parts? 30mL of 24mg to 30mL of 0mg = 60mL of 12mg?

Pete, take an average. If you use 2 parts of your 12mg and 1 part of your 0mg, you'll end up with 8mg… (12+12+0)/3
If you use equal parts of each, you'll end up with 6mg… (12 + 0)/2

You'll also end up with an average of the amount of flavor each contributes and an average PV/VG ratio.
 

Vapor Pete

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Pete, take an average. If you use 2 parts of your 12mg and 1 part of your 0mg, you'll end up with 8mg… (12+12+0)/3
If you use equal parts of each, you'll end up with 6mg… (12 + 0)/2

You'll also end up with an average of the amount of flavor each contributes and an average PV/VG ratio.

Thanks! I suck at math. Ok, so if I use all VG: 30mL of (555) 24mg added to 30mL of (flavorless) 0mg VG = 60mL 12mg 555

What if I do 30mL of 555 24mg added to 30mL of 555 6mg (or even 0mg 555)? First what would be the resulting mg, and would the flavor be way too strong?
 

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Pete, if you are adding equal amounts of each and one of them is 0mg, just divide the strength of the other in half. 24+0=24 and half of that is 12.

If you are adding equal amounts of each and they both have nicotine, add the two strengths and divide in half. 24+6=30 and half of that is 15.

It's only when you are not adding the same amount of each that the averages get any more complicated than that. For example, I love adding peppermint but it's such a strong flavor that I usually include more of the other flavor to the mix.
 

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close to 24 hours is unacceptable to me.....no more orders! I understand you had a new baby but you still have to run a business. I posted in two places on your forum.

I too run a small business, one with not nearly the customer service rob has provided to me personally and it seems nearly everyone.
You personally chose an inferior way of contact, he would have gotten your message had you chosen the route of email. OR He had some type of emergency; honestly after 24 hours you cut all business relationships with ANY companies?
I can't imagine you offer the same type of customer support in your business as Rob does if this is your general state of mind.
This forum is not the best way to contact him. It's a service he PAYS to provide to his customers to be able to have a general meeting place as consumers; for someone to come here, view, and get their question answered by simply seeing another user asked the same thing! Very complicated idea I know, I doubt you know much of the search function as you asked a very general question. Then of course for the advertising value, that might be worth whatever price he pays for this forum alone but regardless - if you run a business you should know that email would be quicker. Or phone. Not a forum; with no way of reaching him wherever he is, assuming he has a smartphone. I can't imagine a small business without one, you would only be hindering yourself greatly. I have a hard time believing Rob run's a successful business by always taking a day to answer customers..generally less than an hour for me. Probably because I contact him correctly if I want a quick response.

Do you run a forum on whatever business you claim to run? I personally do not in mine, but can imagine how not having a question instantly sent to my smartphone wherever I am; my customer service would indefinitely suffer. I am an eBay Powerseller if you're remotely curious on what type of business I do, I only deal with 20-30~ questions daily from customers and they would wait a day every time they asked them if they weren't sent right to my phone. Questions posted on a forum have no way of being sent right to a smartphone unless a programmer has chosen to design said IOS Software and I doubt anyone has, I do not believe tapatalk does push notifications for new posts..it'd have to be very customized by the user to work well.

As a logical human and small business owner I feel you're being completely illogical in canceling your business relationship with Rob over something so inconsequential, but how you spend your money is your own prerogative.

Sorry to come off as harsh but if you were a routine customer of Rob's AND small business owner yourself, you would know the posting of such comments publicly rather than PM's is bad for Rob's business.
(From your responses it looks like all this nonsense is over two questions that anyone with knowledge of google could find in .44 seconds..their cache speed is impressive!)
You chose to post them publicly anyway. I have never done this to any vendor and i've been treated a lot worse then 24 response-less hours..especially when he just had a baby; but you make it clear to me some people are just different, some people are colder. If you act anywhere near as brash to your customers as you have on this forum then Rob could seriously HELP your customer service skills.

Seriously; chill out, ma'am. :)
 
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leotiny

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If the battery has any power left (does not necessarily need a charge) the light may not turn red and charge.
It will need to drop to a certain voltage to start the charging phase.
If it is close to dead, (out of power) it may take a min or 10 minutes to turn red.

Use it for a little bit and possibly until it needs a charge then charge it.

All should be fine, but let me know...

Hey Rob,

I got the battery to start charging after using it for a day. Now it seems like it will not hold a charge. After charging it does not even last an hour, the light gets very dim or starts blinking and i do not get any vapor out of it. I throw it back on the charger and the same thing happens again. Before every charge i make sure to clean the battery connector. Sent you an email over the weekend with the order number. The other battery from the kit is fine. Any other suggestions.
 

dirt2suck

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Hey Rob,

I got the battery to start charging after using it for a day. Now it seems like it will not hold a charge. After charging it does not even last an hour, the light gets very dim or starts blinking and i do not get any vapor out of it. I throw it back on the charger and the same thing happens again. Before every charge i make sure to clean the battery connector. Sent you an email over the weekend with the order number. The other battery from the kit is fine. Any other suggestions.

replied to email...will send replacement.
 

jeffree

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How do you do that? Like mix equal parts? 30mL of 24mg to 30mL of 0mg = 60mL of 12mg?

Yeah, I mix all of my GP juices (0 + 18) to get the 9-nic level I use. My favorite flav combo is 555 + menth, but coffee + caramel mocha is a stellar blend as well.

I'm still looking for a powerful fruit vape to mix with rad bull. If anyone has tried blackberry, mango, or lemon, in particular, I'd be glad to hear your thoughts.

Congrats on the baby, Rob!
 
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