Quit Smoking Advice

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Rosa

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not really:



Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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"Technically, nicotine is not significantly addictive, as nicotine administered alone does not produce significant reinforcing properties. However, after coadministration with an MAOI, such as those found in tobacco, nicotine produces significant behavioral sensitization, a measure of addiction potential. This is similar in effect to amphetamine."


Freebase nicotine - SourceWatch
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"In order to turn nicotine into a more potent form that moves more quickly across human membranes, cigarette companies must turn nicotine into its de-protonated, or "freebase" form."


...next time come prepared.
 

Saberth

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I agree that some people just cannot quit cold turkey. I've tried cold turkey, patch, gum everything i could and e-cigs was the first thing that worked.


I cant believe i just posted in another of boss's threads....I am a glutton for punishment.


And no i am not ready to quit. I like others am just trying to find a safer alternative for the time being.
 

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You need to realize that nicotine is no more dangerous than caffeine. Are you going to go on caffeine/coffee/soda/tea/energy drink forums (if there are any) and badger them to give up their favorite stimulant? There is not much that nicotine can do to you that caffeine can't, because it is just a stimulant, and nicotine is found naturally in foods such as tomatoes and eggplant. Heck, caffeine is just as stimulating and we allow children to consume and become addicted to it. I don't see your point at all. E-cigs have allowed my mother and me to quit smoking very rapidly, and that means we are no longer ingesting toxins and carcinogenic substances from analogs. I'm ok with maintaining my nicotine addiction. We have nicotinic receptors in our bodies, so I propose that obviously we are meant to consume some nicotine. Sure, over-stimulation can cause undesirable problems, but research is out there stating that nicotine can help with depression and prevent Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. I'm not saying we should tell everyone to start taking more nicotine than they get from their eggplant parmesan, I'm just saying that it's not the worst chemical we could put in our bodies. That e-cigs can get people to stop inhaling the killers found in analogs is enough to applaud them, not blast them for being nicotine delivery devices. There is really no more danger in consuming nicotine than there is in consuming caffeine. In high quantities, both will kill you or at least mess with your vascular system. No one goes on and on and on about caffeine. Lighten up. If you don't consume caffeine, either, great for you. I'm glad you don't consume things you wish not to consume. That doesn't mean you should go around telling others what to do. We already have a nanny government. We're adults. We can make our own decisions, and we do so with information, not by listening to fear mongering.
 
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Realize the only reason you smoked was for nicotine. Know that the only way to be free is to be completely off nicotine. I am only presenting another view point for those on a search for a answer. If you choose to try a e cigarette i applaud you, but i would recommend no nicotine.

Why do you hate America so much?
 

AnaCat

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That video was also made by an accountant who made himself rich by getting people to pay him money to learn to quit cold turkey (which we all know only has about a 7% success rate). He took advantage of people. According to wikipedia, he got his inspiration from a hypnotherapist. All junk science. Might as well ask a psychic to help you quit. I prefer results of a more scientific kind, thank you, and not the ramblings of a shyster. Love how the video starts off with him polishing up his Rolls. Classy of him to rub the audience's nose in his greed. It's too bad that he died from lung cancer without realizing it was the toxins in burning analogs that killed him and not the nicotine.
 
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bosshoss

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you misquoted Wikipedia

"However, Carr claimed that it wasn't the hypnotherapy itself that enabled him to quit - "I succeeded in spite of and not because of that visit" and "I lit up the moment I left the clinic and made my way home...". There were two key pieces of information that enabled Allen to quit later that day. First, the hypnotherapist told him smoking was "just nicotine addiction" which Allen had never perceived before that moment i.e. that he was an addict. Second his son John lent him a medical handbook which explained that the physical withdrawal from nicotine is just like an "empty, insecure feeling"
 

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I watched at 4:09... he's assuming again that I want to quit smoking because of the evil, evil nicotine. I don't want to quit nicotine (or coffee for that matter), I just don't want smoking to kill me. With e-cigarettes I can have my cake and eat it too... no quitting, no horrible smoking induced death.

E-cigarettes are NOT a smoking cessation device, they are a reduced harm alternative to smoking.

he says, "how can you cure addiction to a drug by taking the same drug that you are addicted to?"

He's assuming we want to quit smoking for our health, our wallet, the smell, and the addiction (his premise), so what if e-cigs are a remedy for those ails? What's so wrong with having the best of both worlds?
 
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